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1 posted on 01/07/2002 1:15:35 PM PST by expose
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You put {DON'T} in your headder, could you please explain??

Liver damage of any kind is dangerous..

DL

2 posted on 01/07/2002 1:23:56 PM PST by Pee_Oui
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While there's been no known increase in infants infected with hepatitis B, vaccinating them before they leave the hospital "just makes good sense," Dr. Cooper said.
Makes sense to me, let's inject something else into a week old kid for a non existant problem.
3 posted on 01/07/2002 1:24:37 PM PST by lelio
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Hi All!
My daughter was born last December. When we told the
hospital staff that we did not want her vaccinated for
Hep B they looked at us like we were from Mars!

My liberal sister who works in a neo-natal intensive
care ward is starting to see a trend occuring with this
vaccination and autism, the primary culprit looks to be
the mercury based preservative.

We had all told, three doctors and countless nurses
us about our decision, it was nuts!

5 posted on 01/07/2002 1:29:15 PM PST by dd5339
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..."While there's been no known increase in infants infected with hepatitis B, vaccinating them before they leave the hospital "just makes good sense," Dr. Cooper said."...

Oh, puleeze, doctor.....your logic is even worse and non-convincing as the nutritionist who had insisted my husband go to decaffeinated coffee, after some horse-ass study said regular coffee was bad for ya; shortly thereafter, the study was discredited; hubby asked the nutritionist a question about it and she said that while she realizes the study was disproved, she thought it still made good sense. Upon hearing this, hubby told her that when she started footing the bill for her nonsense, he'd continue drinking decaf...he went back to regular coffee.

Doctor here doesn't even have a study that once upon a time suggested an increase in babies getting hepatitis!

7 posted on 01/07/2002 1:32:07 PM PST by Rowdee
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The seven recommended vaccines are: ...

And you can bet that as the makers of other vaccines get their legislated immunity from liability, the list will grow.

We have a grandson who sustained permanent brain damage from these "just makes sense to do it" practices. If you're a parent, wait until your child either: (a) exhibits a problem (and you don't need to wait for symptoms, you can have tests done.); or (b) is old enough and has shown to be healthy enough to take the vaccines.

We had another grandchild whose mother successfully resisted giving indiscriminate injections to her daughter. When the schools got really threatening, she silenced them by telling them it was against her religion.

9 posted on 01/07/2002 1:37:53 PM PST by LantzALot
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My children have had the vaccinations and I encourage them. But too each his own.
11 posted on 01/07/2002 1:41:04 PM PST by arkfreepdom
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,,, all newborns are innoculated with a three in one shot in Australia now, I heard on the radio sometime before Christmas.

This is great timing as there's a microchip that can now be injected too. Call me paranoid if you want.

16 posted on 01/07/2002 1:50:54 PM PST by shaggy eel
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DON'T DON'T DON'T
19 posted on 01/07/2002 2:04:23 PM PST by Digger
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While there's been no known increase in infants infected with hepatitis B, vaccinating them before they leave the hospital "just makes good sense,"

And it brings in money for the medical community.
Again, because the democrat base is full of whores, druggies, and gays, our children must face the chance of dangerous side effects, " for the good of the whole socialist community."
They don't want to discriminate against the low life styles. Mutate them all, and make it "fair."
Heck with this. Just say "no " to socialist medicine.

22 posted on 01/07/2002 2:10:58 PM PST by concerned about politics
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For info about autism-mercury litigation:

http://www.waters-kraus.com/autism_mercury.htm

Appears that Waters & Kraus is going to trial fairly soon.

I belive thimerosal (mercury-containing preservative) is to be eliminated from all vaccines this year.

28 posted on 01/07/2002 2:29:34 PM PST by jojo123
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Certain agencies have recommened Hepatis-B to be given to all infants for at least the last four or five years. I believe the CDC was one of them.

I went round and round with my reps since the costs are so prohibitive. We were barely able to break even on maternity services because the services had been bid down to the point that they were almost loss leaders. To add in the fees for Hep-B would have pushed us over the edge.

Is is also interesting to note that some services are given gratus by the hospitals. The state gives some funding for indigents, but not as much as truly needed.

The premise was that children would get those shots when they got their others. The state may in fact have a service that provides these to indigent mothers, I'm just not aware of such programs.

I will say that many infants have been given the Hep-B series. I am not aware of a single bad reaction, but there may be figures out there that reveal otherwise.

Hepatis is a problem these days. Should the infant contract it, his parent would fee very bad that they did not take measures to prevent it. On the other hand, a bad reacion would make the parent feel bad too. It's a decisions all parents must make these days.

I had to make similar decisions when my kids needed DPT and other innoculations. We opted for them. We had no problems and our kids were spared some rough times for having done so.

Kids who attend school will sooner or later catch just about everything. Hep-B may or may not be a logical item to include with this statement. Others could tell you.

34 posted on 01/07/2002 2:40:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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"The recommendation for hepatitis B shots was made out of concern that some infants of mothers mistakenly thought to be disease-free might be falling through the cracks, said Dr. Julia McMillan, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) committee that helped create this year's list."

If the mother is one Dr's are concerned about, how does a vaccination help? It requires time and multiple shots for the baby's immune system to respond to the vaccination. If the mother is the carrier, she'll pass the infection during the birth process or shortly thereafter. A shot after the fact is of no value. In fact, the shot will initially weaken the immune system, especially that of a newborn, making it more susceptible to all kinds of disease, not less.

39 posted on 01/07/2002 2:48:03 PM PST by uncommonsense
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mercury-containing preservative called thimerosal, which has since been removed from most vaccines,

Which means they still have some CONTAINING mercury.

41 posted on 01/07/2002 2:54:19 PM PST by Slyfox
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DON'T DO IT!

I know a dear physician in my area, who had a healthy 15 mo.old son.....a beautiful child....and after his MMR, Hib, and varivax injections .....started regressing.

He now has autism.

This father is a good physician, his wife is a dentist......and over the past few years they have spent countless time, energy and money to find out what went wrong......and why certain vaccines are being 'pushed' on our little ones.

The result is... now this doctor devotes full-time in hopeful experimental treatments for his son and ....others who hear about & come to him.

He has also testified before Congress.

59 posted on 01/07/2002 3:26:15 PM PST by Guenevere
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Hepatitis B vaccine is normally only recommended for health care providers and emergency responders that might encounter a sick individual. The disease is passed via dirty needles and sexual contact with infected individuals. Neither of these conditions is typical for children. The only children that would be exposed are targets of pedophiles.

There is a history of increased liver cancer in persons have have been immunized against hepatitis B. It is not a risk worth taking unless you are certain that you will be placed into a position to be exposed.

60 posted on 01/07/2002 3:27:59 PM PST by Myrddin
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Hepatitis A and flu vaccines are recommended for certain at-risk children.

Hep A is on the list here for all children.

I've tracked the vaccine makers. We do not make any in the USA.

91 posted on 01/07/2002 9:52:46 PM PST by karebare
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I did a google.com search using "hepatitis B" and found this site among many
Immunization Action Coalition, St Paul MN

It says:

How is HBV spread?

HBV is not just a sexually transmitted disease. It is a hardy virus that can exist on almost any surface for up to one month. HBV is found in the blood, semen, and vaginal secretions of infected people, and low concentrations can be found in saliva.

HBV can be spread by:

unprotected anal or vaginal sex
sharing needles used for drugs, body piercing, or tattooing contact with open sores
sharing toothbrushes, razors, nail clippers, or washcloths
living in a household with a person with ongoing HBV infection.
human bites
You do not get HBV from sneezing, coughing, or holding hands...

Looks to me like more of on effort to 'sell' drugs to generate revenue or to avoid profiling then to protect children. It claims Hep B is 'not just a sexually transmitted disease' yet the list ONLY covers that area and junkies or body piercing, things not associated with infant or even child activity.

Barbara Simpson of KSFO 560 AM in San Francisco has spent a lot of time on the subject several months ago and previous discussion seems to indicate more debate is needed.

95 posted on 01/07/2002 10:36:32 PM PST by all_mighty_dollar
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169 posted on 01/08/2002 8:04:59 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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Pinging the neo-natal nurse!
222 posted on 01/11/2002 7:08:51 AM PST by Teacher317
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"Sure doc...I'll let you give my newborn HepB vaccine. But only if you pay for it out of your pocket....and you will be held liable...out of your pocket for any serious reactions or side effects." "What....you changed your mind? Imagine that."
230 posted on 03/02/2002 8:20:01 PM PST by hove
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