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Houstonians Debate: Was Baxter 'Vince Fostered'?
NewsMax ^ | January 26, 2002 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 01/26/2002 7:17:36 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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Saturday Jan. 26, 2002; 10:30 a.m. EST

Houstonians Debate: Was Baxter 'Vince Fostered'?

News that ex-Enron executive Cliff Baxter had been found shot to death ignited a firestorm of speculation on Friday, and nowhere was the debate more intense than on talk radio in Baxter's hometown of Houston, Texas.

"I would say it's about 60/40 that people down here think he may have been Vince Fostered," said KPRC radio host Chris Baker Saturday morning.

Suspicions intensified when police rushed Baxter's body from his late model Mercedes where it was found in a Houston suburb to a local funeral home without further examination, the Texas radio talker noted.

But then "the Justice of the Peace in the area decided he was going to be much more thorough," Baker told WABC radio's John Gambling in New York. "So now the body's going to go for autopsy and that cooled down a lot of that, maybe-this-guy-was-murdered thing."

Still, questions continue to swirl, he said.

"You know, there's a saying that you can always blame a dead man so - (while) I truly believe it's a suicide, the rumors are going to start," Baker predicted.

The KPRC host said that any attempt to make Baxter Enrongate's fall guy would be complicated by his image as a straight shooter. "It would be strange to see (Baxter's colleagues) point the finger because this guy did have a reputation for boldly speaking with former Enron CEO Jeff Skilling and protesting against a lot of (the company's) business practices."

Houston police have so far declined to release the contents of a suicide note found in Baxter's car. But ABC News reported Friday night that several coworkers said the ex-Enron executive had expressed distress over the prospect of having to testify against his former colleagues in upcoming Congressional hearings.

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To: Petronski
Whoops, that should read 'enron-insider.'
61 posted on 01/26/2002 3:25:40 PM PST by Petronski
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To: GOPyouth
"This implies that this man was too close to President Bush" So, you think of President Bush when you hear "Vince Fostered"? I think of clinton.
62 posted on 01/26/2002 3:30:40 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Fred Mertz
Here's my take on this:

If he wrote the suicide note;

And the handgun can be traced to him;

And he has powder burns on his shooting hand;

Then it's a suicide. QED

Have any of these facts surfaced yet?

Interesting. Apply these questions to the Vince Foster case and what do you get? Think about it.

63 posted on 01/26/2002 3:33:52 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: HoustonKevin
Are you THEEE Kevin from old 101 klol?
64 posted on 01/26/2002 3:37:11 PM PST by eastforker
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To: concerned about politics
"Clinton was into Enron from start to finish. Kick-backs galore. He had to be silenced. He had already shown his desire to tell the truth, something the Clintons have always hated. "

If that was the case and Baxter had some serious discretionary dough, why the hell wouldn't he hire a full time nasty type bodyguard?
I know I sure as hell would have.

65 posted on 01/26/2002 3:39:40 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: concerned about politics;PeaceBeWithYou
"Heck, why not start a Clintron death cemetary?"

Sadly; as soon as I became aware of Baxter's suicide, my first thought was "yeah right." My second was, "wonder what his relationship was to Clinton." A lot of people would say that's overreacting and maybe it is, or maybe it is just the result of 8 years of conditioning to believe the worst and to see the Clinton signature emblazoned on every untimely and convenient death. It sounds like having a conscience was the "cause of death," regardless of who pulled the trigger.

66 posted on 01/26/2002 3:41:19 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: MeeknMing
I heard on the news last night (Channel 2 10 pm) that the authorities noticed that while there was an exit wound from the body, no evidence of an bullet exiting the car or lodged in the car. This could explain why they decided to look into the matter further.
67 posted on 01/26/2002 3:48:17 PM PST by texgal
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To: texgal
That is interesting. . .
Thanks.
68 posted on 01/26/2002 4:00:28 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: woofie
"This just shows that we need federal legislation against shooting guns in Mercedes"

ROTFLOL!!

However, on the rest of your theory - phooey!! If it was murder, the note was written beforehand (by someone else); the gun was formulated from other guns (as in the Foster case), while Baxter's wife will swear it was his; the Arkanside bunch would never have had any need to enter the private residence (he was murdered on the street). I don't think your theory holds water.

69 posted on 01/26/2002 4:05:46 PM PST by Sueann
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To: mercy
Hmmmm? That may explain why the liberals get away with so much there - no one on talk radio to hold them accountable.
70 posted on 01/26/2002 4:09:32 PM PST by Sueann
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To: JoeFromCA
Hmmmm? Why wouldn't he have considered the witness protection program? He could have gone to the Justice Dept and asked for protection.

I do agree with some that he may have had something to hide himself - even though he was so vocal about whatever it was his collegues were doing. However, even if he did have something to hide - what better reason to ask for protection.

71 posted on 01/26/2002 4:16:30 PM PST by Sueann
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To: Dazedcat;all
Your theory will take hold if another Enron executive or insider shows up dead. Personally, I just blame Clinton like everybody else.

On another thread someone mentioned that another Enron exec was found in his van shot in the head, an apparent suicide, in December. I didn't catch any links to info about it but I believe it named the person.

We should investigate it.

72 posted on 01/26/2002 4:23:36 PM PST by chantal7
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To: YaYa123
How could mentioning Vince Foster make any correlation to Bush and Clinton?? I don't understand that logic.

If Vince Foster is being mentioned, it's because some of the media are seeing a similarity to the way Clinton's people took care of Clinton's problems. This guy, Baxer, was just another Clinton problem - to be dealt with in the usual way.

Remember, the lawyers for Enron are Clinton people - Bennet and Boise. If they discovered Clinton's fingerprints (which I am sure they did), then Clinton most certainly had motive enough and opportunity enough (the Arkansas Mafia) to get rid of Baxter. The fact that Baxter was depressed is fishy to me because that's the same excuse they used for Foster's death.

73 posted on 01/26/2002 4:35:06 PM PST by Sueann
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To: chantal7
In re: Post #72 It could have been an Andersen exec instead of Enron but still worth looking into.
74 posted on 01/26/2002 4:37:29 PM PST by chantal7
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Yeah, but you can do a hell of a lot of shooting in 15 minutes - and I doubt it was police - probably a private patrol. I don't know of any police agency that has the manpower to patrol ritsy neighborhoods on a 15 minute cycle. They are much tooooooo busy with the bad side of town.
75 posted on 01/26/2002 4:40:18 PM PST by Sueann
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To: Mommyof3
I think he did commit suicide but I have to think it was to protect his loved ones.

Yup. His guilt of engaging in scandal, by ommission or commission, that eventually led to threats made to him on his family, provided the sufficient motive for self-martyrdom, for repentence.

It's not rocket science, and it was the first thing I thought of -- not a concocted suicide.

He had every chance of sliding on this one via immunity. He was supposedly a relatively ethical man, so one has to wonder -- who has friends so close that, even after you tried to correct them, even after you get sucked deeper into the corruption they are generating, that you would rather KILL YOURSELF than to testify against them?

Heck, just take the rap if thats the issue.

Nope, there is one answer to this -- he was protecting his family. 85% probability.

76 posted on 01/26/2002 4:40:21 PM PST by mindprism.com
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To: texgal
Which could mean he was killed somewhere else and somebody drove him to the location where they found him?? Doesn't sound very plausible to me, but then it didn't sound very plausible in the Vince Foster case either.
77 posted on 01/26/2002 4:47:27 PM PST by Sueann
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To: Sueann
Yeah, but you can do a hell of a lot of shooting in 15 minutes - and I doubt it was police - probably a private patrol. I don't know of any police agency that has the manpower to patrol ritsy neighborhoods on a 15 minute cycle. They are much tooooooo busy with the bad side of town.

OK, one more try. Yes you can shoot a lot in 15 minutes. It is still STUPID to do so on the main road when you do not know when the cop is coming by.

It WAS a police officer.

I do NOT mean this as a joke but this is only a 65,000 person town and we don't have a bad side.

78 posted on 01/26/2002 5:49:07 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Why would anyone shoot themself in a turning lane of traffic on a public street when normally one would do it in the privacy of their own home, their driveway, an alley, a deserted parking lot or park?

Doesn't it sound kind of strange the location where he allegedly shot himself? To just pull into the turning lane, stop and shoot himself?

I've been around one who shot himself while in his bedroom, one in his bathroom, one outside on his porch during an argument with his wife...but never any place as strange as this guy was supposed to have shot himself.

79 posted on 01/26/2002 6:11:46 PM PST by chantal7
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To: concerned about politics
bump
80 posted on 01/26/2002 6:21:23 PM PST by Slyfox
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