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Group videotapes strip club patrons
St Paul Pioneer (de)Press / AP ^ | 1/30/02

Posted on 01/30/2002 5:57:14 AM PST by Valin

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To: VetoBill
I'm trying to rememberwhat was said in a class I took on this when I was going to school to learn photography. I believe that if you are the subject of a story or photo you need to sign a release form. If you are out in public you're fair game. I could be wrong on this as it's been 20 years and the laws may have changed.
21 posted on 01/30/2002 6:52:31 AM PST by Valin
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To: WindMinstrel
There is no law against people being jerks, right?

Two words, hate speech.

22 posted on 01/30/2002 6:55:30 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin
The Thought Police to the Rescue !! !!
23 posted on 01/30/2002 7:00:19 AM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: Valin
In Oklahoma City, where 150 sex-oriented businesses (strip clubs, adult book/video stores, etc.) were eliminated, the rape rate declined more than 26 percent over 5 years. During that time, rape rates in the rest of the state rose more than 19 percent.

Cordially,

24 posted on 01/30/2002 7:02:28 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
See reply #9
25 posted on 01/30/2002 7:04:43 AM PST by Valin
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You all seem pretty sympathetic to the strip club patrons. What about the people who live in the area. Should their children be subjected to this? Would you like to live across the street from a strip club? Do you have children? Do you want your teenage daughters propositioned by the clientele as they walk home from school? Maybe they can grow up and have a career where they can gyrate around a pole and have dateless nerds and mob wanna-bes stuff bills in their g-string too.

And as for loud car stereos - That is a pet peeve of mine as well. Why does some A-hole have the right to drive down my street blasting music so loudly that I can hear it in my house, with the windows closed?

The fact is, these activities have a negative impact on the rest of us. We have the right to live our lives, and not have to put up with this stuff. Put the strip clubs far away from where people live. Turn down your stereo so that people two blocks away can't hear you coming, or buy some damned headphones. Have some consideration for others.

26 posted on 01/30/2002 7:06:02 AM PST by LouD
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To: VetoBill
My image is mine, not anyone elses.

Technally it is illegal for you to copy your own portrait without the photographer's permission. The image belongs to the photographer.

27 posted on 01/30/2002 7:11:31 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Valin
The group wants to prevent suggestive magazines from being displayed in grocery stores, ban loud, "offensive" music from car stereos, and get rid of rude bumper stickers.

The group also demanded that everyone wear clean underwear, and to prove that it is clean they suggested that it be worn on the outside.

28 posted on 01/30/2002 7:16:59 AM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: riley1992
Or how about "FU" or "*uck You." I've seen those. Or "*hit happens." I really don't want my kids reading this stuff. Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
29 posted on 01/30/2002 7:27:01 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: LouD
Would you like to live across the street from a strip club?

I live in a residential area that has restrictions on business operations of any kind. I made that choice when I bought my house. I didn't see anything in the original post that indicated this club was in any way bothering nearby residents. It appears a bunch of busy bodies who have nothing to do are trying to make sure that no one else has anything to do.

And as for loud car stereos - That is a pet peeve of mine as well.

Mine too. Doesn't have anything to do with strip clubs. As long as we have a streets nearby there will be these inconsiderate people bothering us.

31 posted on 01/30/2002 7:29:27 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: unixfox
What if the person going in is not a PATRON but someone doing building repairs or maintenance?

Why would someone be embarrassed to be seen going into a strip club or a porno theater? Is there something wrong with someone who would go to a strip club or a porno theater?

32 posted on 01/30/2002 7:29:43 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Valin
Screamin' MeeMees owner Jim Halbach said Sodemann's right to videotape on public property is protected by the First Amendment, as is his right to run the juice bar.

Yes to the first part. No to the second part.

Mr. Sodemann is a hero, especially considering the risk he's taking in videotaping the lost souls who go to these clubs.

33 posted on 01/30/2002 7:34:17 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: WDreamsGirl
I wish that I lived closer, I'd have gone up to him and hugged him and in a loud voice asked him if we are still on for later
Actually, the thing to do would be get some really femmy looking gay guy to do that (in a lisp of course) (:<

Busybodies suck.

-Eric

34 posted on 01/30/2002 7:42:22 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Valin
Bird stood on the sidewalk in front of an abortion clinic for an hour tuesday afternoon to "apply positive peer presure" Police told him he was allowed to stay there...

"I just want people to think twice before they go in" Bird said.

Funny how the law doesn't apply equally in all situations.

35 posted on 01/30/2002 7:43:54 AM PST by bird4four4
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To: Aquinasfan
Is there something wrong with someone who would go to a strip club or a porno theater?

Paul Ruebens didn't think so.

36 posted on 01/30/2002 7:47:01 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: Aquinasfan
Screamin' MeeMees owner Jim Halbach said Sodemann's right to videotape on public property is protected by the First Amendment, as is his right to run the juice bar. Yes to the first part. No to the second part.
So being a public rectum is protected by the First Amendment, but running a private business that isn't "decent" isn't. Okay.

I don't even like going to strip clubs because I've known enough of the gals in my time to know what they think of the clientele ("cash machines with legs" about covers it). But this guy is in dire need of some "positive peer pressure". Not to mention a life.

-Eric

37 posted on 01/30/2002 7:48:13 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: VetoBill
My image is mine, not anyone elses. If I wish to be seen on television I believe I should have to sign a waiver allowing such, or be compensated.

If you don't want people to see you without your permission, nobody is prohibiting you from developing the ability to absorb light waves instead of reflecting them. However, once they ARE reflected, I think it's a stretch to think that you own them.

38 posted on 01/30/2002 7:49:41 AM PST by Sloth
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To: WDreamsGirl; FreePaul
Zoning regs are a contravention of private property rights. They should not exist. If you don't want a particular thing within 1000' of your home, buy all land within that radius.
39 posted on 01/30/2002 7:55:12 AM PST by Sloth
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To: Sloth
buy all land within that radius.

If you want to do something on your land that affects your neighbors, build a fence. Your right to generate high energy sound waves ends at my property line. Ask that great libertarian author Heinlein what is the corrolary to "rights". (Hint: you'll find the answer in Starship Troopers)

AB

40 posted on 01/30/2002 8:02:01 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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