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Invitation to FR Catholics and Interested Friends
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Posted on 02/13/2002 7:52:19 AM PST by Askel5

Traditional Catholic Action
Salon & Soiree
New Orleans, Louisiana
March 15th-17th (St. Patrick's Day Weekend)





CATHOLIC ACTION


Catholic Action is an apostolate. Its end is to win men to Christ as men were won to Christ by Peter and Paul.

Is is a social apostolate. It seeks to restore right order in society, to re-create society. But its action is not political. The breaking societies of the West cannot be renewed by economic or political panaceas.

Is is a moral sickness from which the body of society suffers, and it will not be cured by local plasters upon local symptoms. Politics, economics are phases of human behavior, but human behavior is inevitably determined by the right values which men hold, by their sense of right and wrong ...

Catholic Action restores society by converting it to Christ.

Restoring All Things: A Guide to Catholic Action,
John Fitzsimons and Paul McGuire (Sheed & Ward, 1938)


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To: neocon
bump for ELS's last.
101 posted on 03/06/2002 3:49:05 PM PST by Askel5
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To: neocon
bump for ELS's last

That would be #98, not #100.

102 posted on 03/06/2002 4:33:49 PM PST by ELS
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To: Askel5
Wish I could be there bump.
103 posted on 03/06/2002 4:49:15 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Next time, I hope.

Spam my thread with your favs and you'll be there in spirit among the references we provide courtesy of Catholic FReepers. =)

104 posted on 03/06/2002 9:11:46 PM PST by Askel5
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To: ELS, Askel5
Thanks, I'll try to make time to read that thread.

I've got an outline for the paper worked out, and the first non-introductory section is a discussion of the epistemological limitations of the scientific method, mathematics (including Gödel's theorem), and theology with an aside on the Galileo controversy. I'm basically arguing for the Scholastic viewpoint and against logical positivism. Then it's on to Newtonian determinism, (special) relativistic non-simultaneity, quantum uncertainty, the Copenhagen interpretation and Bell's theorem, relating all these to contemporaneous theological developments. I'll wind up with a few words on evolutionary biology, just because.

I'll try to put in enough math, showing the relativistic invariance of Maxwell's equations and deriving the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, to give a flavor of the major results, but there's just no way to do a proper development in a short period of time and a small number of pages. It won't be a polished thesis or anything, more a means of stimulating discussion from which I hope to learn from those more learned than I.

It's been a long time since I taught physics, though, so I'm hoping I can somehow keep the verbal presentation from boring everyone to tears or leaving them utterly befuddled.

BTW, I guess my suggested name for the group, Ecclesiam peregrinantem, was a dud, huh?

105 posted on 03/06/2002 9:53:07 PM PST by neocon
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To: neocon
Not at all ... just a little long for a web address. Actually, it's your idea which prompted the parameters I gave when I asked for names!

so I'm hoping I can somehow keep the verbal presentation from boring everyone to tears or leaving them utterly befuddled.

I think it's going to be fascinating. Luckily, I'm fairly simpleminded myself (even if I've some passing familiarity with what you've outline there). So, I'll probably be asking the first question -- just making sure I understand what you're saying -- and putting everyone at their ease about doing likewise. =)

106 posted on 03/07/2002 5:04:08 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Wish I could be there bump

My sentiments exactly! Especially now that it has a jazzy new name...

107 posted on 03/07/2002 5:59:39 PM PST by livius
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To: Askel5
I've told them NO MORE than 27

If you become aware before Monday evening (I leave work around 5PM ET) that there will be more than 15 "attendees", please FReepmail me so that I can bring enough prayer cards for everyone. Thanks.

108 posted on 03/07/2002 6:38:36 PM PST by ELS
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To: ELS; Goetz von Berlichingen; Neocon; Romulus; patent; patented; A History Buff; *catholic_List
[CATHOLICS: Anyone have additions to a list of Catholic films, playwrights, artists and fiction writers? I think this might be a good category to include.]


The Rectory reports two new resos already this morning. I want to fax out a copy of the agenda to a couple folks this afternoon. I'll appreciate a title and blurb for your mini-presentation.

Read most of Neocon's last night! We're in for a treat. I say we go full throttle, pray hard at Mass and lead off with The Math. Below's a mock agenda (I'm working on our logo and graphics for the ConSpiratio webpage) with some italicized bits reflecting how I (as emcee of sorts) shall be tying them together in general ... spin will become more specific once I read your pieces.

 9:30 am --     Arrival, set-up.

10:00 am --     Mass

10:30 am --     Coffee and croissants

10:45 am --     Introductions and an Overview of the Binders

AND ONTO THE TALKS ...

Beginning with the "math" ... and, in the process, sounding exactly the notes on which we debate most often with the Modernist (often atheist) Mind where human life, moral use of technology and the knowledge of God are concerned.

11:00 am --     On the False Dichotomy Between Science and Religion
An informal discussion of the philosophy of science and its place in the hierarchy of human knowledge with a view toward encouraging dialogue between religious and scientific thinkers. Particular emphasis is place on the apparent support to be found for certain distinctive ideas of Catholic theology in the cosmology of modern physics.

Bringing this to the practical level in two respects ... beginning with the use of technology in general (or its "compelling" us, rather =) ... also interested again in sounding the points you raised on imagination, ELS.

12:00 am --     [Technology and Middle Earth]
[abstract]

The old model of authority wherein the authority of Individuals was in direct proportion to their responsibility ... at every stage in the human hierarchy of the old City of Man. This sort of society likely recognizing the rank absurdity of technology's "compelling" anyone or the worship of the white-tipped cane that is Science.

12:30 am --     [Monarchy]
[abstract]


1:00 am --     LUNCH BREAK
Putting the conspiracy in ConSpiratio ...
1:45 pm --     [The Co-Opting of Faith for Political Purpose]
[Same stuff I repeat here on the forum ad infinitum only most of it will be in the book and I'll simply touch a a few key points -- clearly, concisely and stacked such that I've laid a foundation for our two more topics which bring into crystal clear focus the battlefront on which we are hunkered down as a rule ... ]


2:15 pm --     [Pius XII]
[Abstract]


3:00 pm --     Sexual Scandal in the Church
A discusson of sexual scandal in the Church with an emphasis on (1) AmChurch's inviting the State's secular authority to take precedence over Rome's and (2) the perpetual casting of celibacy as the crux of the crisis.


  4:00 pm --     Closing Prayers

As we will have begun the day with Mass and most of us will be attending at least one Mass the next day, I'm sure the priests will allow us some time for post mortem and plotting while we serve some Stilton and walnuts, havarti with praline pecan sauce, crackers, fruit and wine. We'll tidy up and make plans to reconnoiter on a balcony or in a courtyard somewhere for late supper after a couple hours' rest.

109 posted on 03/11/2002 8:19:34 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
11:00 am -- On the False Dichotomy Between Science and Religion

Will you be handing out pugil sticks for this session?

Just bumping through....

110 posted on 03/11/2002 8:23:45 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Lol ... I had to go look that up to be sure what a pugil stick was ... although I admit just the sound of it made me laugh.

Alas, OWK and other of our friends declined the invitation to join us. Maybe next time! =)

111 posted on 03/11/2002 8:27:20 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Fiction writers: by all means include Louisiana's own Walker Percy (buried at St. Joe's Abbey in Covington), as well as Evelyn Waugh (the greatest prose stylist of the 20 th C., who knew all about "the modern age in arms"), and Flannery O'Connor.

Abstract forthcoming, probably tomorrow. Following your act should be, um, an interesting challenge. Are you looking for entire paper (there won't be one -- not written), fleshed-out outline, or only a coupla graphs?

112 posted on 03/11/2002 10:52:55 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Askel5
Anyone have additions to a list of Catholic films, playwrights, artists and fiction writers?

One I hadn't heard of (not that that is a significant measurement) is Andre Dubus.

113 posted on 03/11/2002 11:16:55 AM PST by ELS
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To: Romulus
Frankly, I think Neocon's got the most difficult presentation of all. I'm therefore relieved that he's written his out completely.

I shall probably do the same with mine since I hate to speak publicly without a character, costume, make-up and lines and intend only to hit a few highlights of my piece by way of introducing your defense of Pius XII and the current assault by the media, the State and revolutionaries within via scandal.

So ... for you guys, feel free to bullet-point your main ideas, flesh out with timelines and such as appropriate but PLEASE do include a bibliography and weblinks on which you've relied. That should do it.

114 posted on 03/11/2002 11:33:48 AM PST by Askel5
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To: ELS; Romulus
Thanks for the additional names.

N.B. The opening prayer will be given by ELS

115 posted on 03/11/2002 11:34:34 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Is anybody going to be videotaping these presentations? It might be nice for some of us who can't make it to see streamed webcasts...
116 posted on 03/11/2002 1:27:29 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son
Lol !

Are you kidding? Our first confab?

Actually, I have checked in with one of my techie friends at Corporate Lighting so that I can get a decent mic for transcription purposes. We'll see what my budget will allow once the essentials -- food and drink, pen and ink -- are covered.

117 posted on 03/11/2002 1:33:51 PM PST by Askel5
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To: cicero's_son
ELS has also kindly offered to take digital pix. Might pick up an extra camera ... particularly for the party =)
118 posted on 03/11/2002 1:34:43 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
ok
119 posted on 03/12/2002 8:22:08 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Askel5; ELS; Goetz von Berlichingen; Neocon
Speaking of burning bushes, there's yet another property of fire, which I especially regret not having remembered, as it's the most important of all: that is its way of inducing change.

In this season of Lent, the repentence to which we're called is known more expressively in Greek as "metanoia" - a change of heart. We're reminded that we not only can change, but must change; that conversion is not a once-for-all experience, but a constant fixture of the Christian life; that the change to which we're called is Transfiguration -- the fruit of the Resurrection.

Flannery O'Connor reminds us that human nature's usual response to grace is resistance - sometimes a struggle of the soul even unto death - because grace induces change, and change is painful. However, notwithstanding the pain occasioned by change-inducing grace - itself sometimes not unlike fire - O'Connor makes the further point that you can't reject it without rejecting life.

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will not leave you in peace!"

120 posted on 03/18/2002 6:25:45 AM PST by Romulus
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