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Eerie article on Yahoo about the shootdown of KAL 007.
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Posted on 02/13/2002 9:03:16 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

Tuesday February 12, 3:16 pm Eastern Time Press Release SOURCE: International Committee for the Rescue of KAL 007 Survivors

Researcher Wants KAL 007 Crash Re-Opened: Will Present Evidence, Petitions in Washington WASHINGTON, Feb. 12 /PRNewswire/ -- Bert Schlossberg, a scholar from Israel, will present evidence on Thursday that contradicts the accepted theory that all passengers died on Korean Airlines #007 in 1983.

Schlossberg has spent 10 years researching the mysterious crash of the jet, and has formed a new committee to bring public attention to his findings. He and several others will hold a News Conference at 10:00 a.m. on Thursday, February 14, at the Army & Navy Club, 901 17th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. After the briefing they will deliver petitions, addressed to President Bush and President Vladimir Putin, to the White House and the Russian Embassy asking them to find out what happened to the 240 passengers and 29 crew members aboard the plane.

Nearly all aboard the jet, which was hit by a Soviet missile, vanished without a trace. The cabin of the aircraft was discovered largely intact in shallow water, but contained just one body. 61 American citizens were aboard the flight, including Congressman Larry McDonald (D-GA), nationally known for his anti-communist views.

Bert Schlossberg who formed the International Committee for the Rescue of KAL 007 Survivors last year, is the son-in-law of passenger Alfredo Cruz of New York. The Committee has many supporters among the relatives of the passengers. His book, ``Rescue 007, The Untold Story of KAL 007 and its Survivors'' (Xlibris 2001), presents evidence for his premise:

1) The cockpit voice recorder demonstrates that one missile hit the rear of the cabin, and a second Soviet missile missed the aircraft completely. The cockpit voice recorder tape, kept secret by the Soviets for many years, revealed that the flight engineer reported all four engines functioning normally after the missiles were fired.

2) Japanese radar showed the plane slowing down as it descended until it went below 1000 feet and was off the radar screen. The descent lasted 12 minutes. Radio intercepts record that Soviet vessels converged on the location where it ditched near Sakhalin, an island near Siberia. Boeing says that it could have remained afloat for an hour if the landing was soft. No big pieces of wreckage, no baggage, and only two bodies were found floating on the ocean. The largely intact cabin contained some personal belongings but no life jackets.

In 1991, Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC) requested information from President Yeltsin on what happened to the rest. If they didn't survive, where are the bodies? The Soviets admitted that they had classified documents, but did not make them available. Since then, there has been no effort to get answers to Senator Helms' questions.


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To: Black Jade
bump
41 posted on 02/21/2002 6:48:21 AM PST by mafree
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To: goodell70
John Ashcroft is the Attorney General.
42 posted on 02/21/2002 6:53:12 AM PST by Williams
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To: DTA
"Can someone provide position of shuttle at the time KAL 007 was shot down to dispel this myth or confirm it as fact?"

I would like to know what you are going to do with the "position" of the space shuttle if someone provides it to you.

43 posted on 02/21/2002 6:56:07 AM PST by Williams
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To: Williams
I mentioned the assassination of Congressman.... Someone please help me. Was it Jean (pronounced "John") Ashbrook? I'm pretty sure he represented Ohio. Thank you.
44 posted on 02/21/2002 2:26:44 PM PST by goodell70
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To: Williams
if the space shuttle orbital position was not above 007 at the time 007 entered Soviet airspace theory that 007 was used as sigint bait can be dismissed outright. If the space shuttle orbital position was indeed above 007 in soviet airspace the theory that 007 was nothing but sigint bait for russian RADARs might be true. It's like someone having car accident and claiming that he was blinded by sun reflecting from the lake. To prove this true or false one needs to calculate sun position and angle.
45 posted on 02/21/2002 4:29:15 PM PST by DTA
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To: Scholastic
To: goodell70, sultan88

"Bump. Thank you both for taking this issue seriously"

I agree absolutely. Apparently some of the liberalized, propagandized "know everythings" here think Jesse Helms is a "know nothing" without informed judgement.

There is barely anyone left who values truth or knows it when it happens to be found in their presence.

Worse yet, these days others try desperately to controvert it because they are paid to do so.

46 posted on 02/21/2002 6:33:02 PM PST by Spirited
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Don't believe everything you read on Yahoo...

The airdale said, and I quote, "The target is destroyed." Period, end of story.

47 posted on 02/21/2002 6:35:40 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: twigs
At the time, my boss assured me that the aircraft was shot down b/c the GA Congressman was carrying a list of active American communists--those in government?--who were members of the communist party.

And nobody thought to make a friggin' Xerox?

48 posted on 02/21/2002 6:38:43 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: goodell70
The paucity of bodies and baggage (not to mention the airplane itself) reported found indicate very strongly that the airplane never got wet.

Are you for real?

I don't think you are ...

49 posted on 02/21/2002 6:41:04 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Poohbah
And nobody thought to make a friggin' Xerox?

To believe the Conspiro-loons - yup.

50 posted on 02/21/2002 6:42:59 PM PST by _Jim
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To: DTA
I remember your theory. It was in a book called Day of the Cobra.

It has only one teensy-weensy defect.

In order for this one to work, the Earth has to be flat...

51 posted on 02/21/2002 6:46:48 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: twigs
I read and I'm pretty sure I read it in National Review, that there were 6 or 7 congressmen who had tickets for this flight. They were mostly at the airport just before it took off and all the congressmen except this fellow Larry McDonald canceled at the last minute. McDonald was also I believe associated with the John Birtch Society, he was a radical conservative. He was also very popular and able to persuade people. I thought McDonald was a repub, but this article says he was a democrat. The article I read also said that it was possible for the Soviets to trick the airliner into flying into soviet airspace through electronic manipulation.

The powers that be in this world don't hesitate to kill people who get in their way. During the 1980's the Soviets killed a lot of people. They killed a 21 year old grad student in Arizona because he was working on the missile-defense program. They similarly killed more than 20 Europeans for the same exact offense.

52 posted on 02/21/2002 6:55:54 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: Red Jones
The article I read also said that it was possible for the Soviets to trick the airliner into flying into soviet airspace through electronic manipulation.

Pretty good trick - considering that flight on that leg of the trip would have been via Inertial Nav -

- that means the Soviets would have had to manipulate time, gravity and space in order to 'trick' the KAL007 flight director ...

53 posted on 02/21/2002 7:03:15 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Well, they DO, if you believe Thomas Bearden...
54 posted on 02/21/2002 7:03:54 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: _Jim
the flight was from Alaska to Seoul Korea, it was only a little bit out of their way to get into soviet airspace. Somehow it got there, it was slightly off its planned path when shot down, could've been a mistake by those flying the plane or it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.
55 posted on 02/21/2002 7:09:58 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: Poohbah
Are you in need of a bridge, say, something on the order of the Brooklyn Bridge (LOL!)?
56 posted on 02/21/2002 7:10:35 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Red Jones
it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.

Yeah, right.

We're back to "How did they fool the IN (Inertial Nav) system?"

You don't understand that question - do you?

57 posted on 02/21/2002 7:12:16 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Red Jones
the flight was from Alaska to Seoul Korea, it was only a little bit out of their way to get into soviet airspace. Somehow it got there, it was slightly off its planned path when shot down, could've been a mistake by those flying the plane or it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.

Do you have any idea how inertial navigation works?

It doesn't use any outside electronic data sources. Instead, accelerometers in the aircraft measure its every movement.

In short, in order for the Soviets to be able to lure the aircraft off course by "electronic means," those "electronic means" would have to distort the Earth's gravity field. Ain't no way to do that--or, rather, if the Soviets WERE able to do that, we would've lost the Cold War rather blatantly...

The ICAO investigation found that a rather easy-to-make-error would put the wrong start location into the INS...and that would, in turn, cause the aircraft to fly the wrong direction, Garbage in, garbage out...

58 posted on 02/21/2002 7:16:23 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: _Jim
Naw, but I have this GREAT investment opportunity for you in Florida real estate.
59 posted on 02/21/2002 7:16:58 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Red Jones
#1 you are EXTREMELY gullible
#2 You have NO sense of what goes on in the world - even to this day!

The following was extracted from: http://www.infotec-travel.com/txt/it791.txt


>Last week I flew on a Delta flight from Atlanta to Tampa on a L-1011
>and got to see something really cool.
....
[stuff about GPS driven position indicators on civil flights.]
....
>Really a nice system which was well received by many people on board -
>even our flight crew had not seen it before.



The following story is *NOT* an urban legend but happened last year on
Sept 5th.

Northwest Airlines flight 52 from Detroit to Frankfurt flew to the
wrong airport. The pilot was unaware that he was touching down at
Brussels despite the fact that the passengers and crew of the plane
could all see the GPS system in the cabin showing they were landing in
Brussels. 

The flight attendants decided not to warn the pilots, fearing a hijack
was underway and because of rules forbidding contact with the crew on
a final approach.

The pilot was relieved from duty and a new crew flew to Brussels to
collect the flight and fly it on to Frankfurt. It arrived seven hours
late. 

[for a slightly more complete version of the story you will need to
call up the Electronic Telegraph on http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ 
You can find the story by searching back issues with the following
keys:  airline brussels frankfurt landing]


60 posted on 02/21/2002 7:17:03 PM PST by _Jim
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