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Eerie article on Yahoo about the shootdown of KAL 007.
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Posted on 02/13/2002 9:03:16 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Black Jade
bump
41
posted on
02/21/2002 6:48:21 AM PST
by
mafree
To: goodell70
John Ashcroft is the Attorney General.
42
posted on
02/21/2002 6:53:12 AM PST
by
Williams
To: DTA
"Can someone provide position of shuttle at the time KAL 007 was shot down to dispel this myth or confirm it as fact?"
I would like to know what you are going to do with the "position" of the space shuttle if someone provides it to you.
43
posted on
02/21/2002 6:56:07 AM PST
by
Williams
To: Williams
I mentioned the assassination of Congressman.... Someone please help me. Was it Jean (pronounced "John") Ashbrook? I'm pretty sure he represented Ohio. Thank you.
To: Williams
if the space shuttle orbital position was not above 007 at the time 007 entered Soviet airspace theory that 007 was used as sigint bait can be dismissed outright. If the space shuttle orbital position was indeed above 007 in soviet airspace the theory that 007 was nothing but sigint bait for russian RADARs might be true. It's like someone having car accident and claiming that he was blinded by sun reflecting from the lake. To prove this true or false one needs to calculate sun position and angle.
45
posted on
02/21/2002 4:29:15 PM PST
by
DTA
To: Scholastic
To: goodell70, sultan88 "Bump. Thank you both for taking this issue seriously"
I agree absolutely. Apparently some of the liberalized, propagandized "know everythings" here think Jesse Helms is a "know nothing" without informed judgement.
There is barely anyone left who values truth or knows it when it happens to be found in their presence.
Worse yet, these days others try desperately to controvert it because they are paid to do so.
46
posted on
02/21/2002 6:33:02 PM PST
by
Spirited
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Don't believe everything you read on Yahoo...
The airdale said, and I quote, "The target is destroyed." Period, end of story.
47
posted on
02/21/2002 6:35:40 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: twigs
At the time, my boss assured me that the aircraft was shot down b/c the GA Congressman was carrying a list of active American communists--those in government?--who were members of the communist party.And nobody thought to make a friggin' Xerox?
48
posted on
02/21/2002 6:38:43 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: goodell70
The paucity of bodies and baggage (not to mention the airplane itself) reported found indicate very strongly that the airplane never got wet.Are you for real?
I don't think you are ...
49
posted on
02/21/2002 6:41:04 PM PST
by
_Jim
To: Poohbah
And nobody thought to make a friggin' Xerox?To believe the Conspiro-loons - yup.
50
posted on
02/21/2002 6:42:59 PM PST
by
_Jim
To: DTA
I remember your theory. It was in a book called
Day of the Cobra.
It has only one teensy-weensy defect.
In order for this one to work, the Earth has to be flat...
51
posted on
02/21/2002 6:46:48 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: twigs
I read and I'm pretty sure I read it in National Review, that there were 6 or 7 congressmen who had tickets for this flight. They were mostly at the airport just before it took off and all the congressmen except this fellow Larry McDonald canceled at the last minute. McDonald was also I believe associated with the John Birtch Society, he was a radical conservative. He was also very popular and able to persuade people. I thought McDonald was a repub, but this article says he was a democrat. The article I read also said that it was possible for the Soviets to trick the airliner into flying into soviet airspace through electronic manipulation.
The powers that be in this world don't hesitate to kill people who get in their way. During the 1980's the Soviets killed a lot of people. They killed a 21 year old grad student in Arizona because he was working on the missile-defense program. They similarly killed more than 20 Europeans for the same exact offense.
To: Red Jones
The article I read also said that it was possible for the Soviets to trick the airliner into flying into soviet airspace through electronic manipulation. Pretty good trick - considering that flight on that leg of the trip would have been via Inertial Nav -
- that means the Soviets would have had to manipulate time, gravity and space in order to 'trick' the KAL007 flight director ...
53
posted on
02/21/2002 7:03:15 PM PST
by
_Jim
To: _Jim
Well, they DO, if you believe Thomas Bearden...
54
posted on
02/21/2002 7:03:54 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: _Jim
the flight was from Alaska to Seoul Korea, it was only a little bit out of their way to get into soviet airspace. Somehow it got there, it was slightly off its planned path when shot down, could've been a mistake by those flying the plane or it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.
To: Poohbah
Are you in need of a bridge, say, something on the order of the Brooklyn Bridge (LOL!)?
56
posted on
02/21/2002 7:10:35 PM PST
by
_Jim
To: Red Jones
it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means. Yeah, right.
We're back to "How did they fool the IN (Inertial Nav) system?"
You don't understand that question - do you?
57
posted on
02/21/2002 7:12:16 PM PST
by
_Jim
To: Red Jones
the flight was from Alaska to Seoul Korea, it was only a little bit out of their way to get into soviet airspace. Somehow it got there, it was slightly off its planned path when shot down, could've been a mistake by those flying the plane or it could've been caused by soviet deception through electronic means.Do you have any idea how inertial navigation works?
It doesn't use any outside electronic data sources. Instead, accelerometers in the aircraft measure its every movement.
In short, in order for the Soviets to be able to lure the aircraft off course by "electronic means," those "electronic means" would have to distort the Earth's gravity field. Ain't no way to do that--or, rather, if the Soviets WERE able to do that, we would've lost the Cold War rather blatantly...
The ICAO investigation found that a rather easy-to-make-error would put the wrong start location into the INS...and that would, in turn, cause the aircraft to fly the wrong direction, Garbage in, garbage out...
58
posted on
02/21/2002 7:16:23 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: _Jim
Naw, but I have this GREAT investment opportunity for you in Florida real estate.
59
posted on
02/21/2002 7:16:58 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: Red Jones
#1 you are EXTREMELY gullible
#2 You have NO sense of what goes on in the world - even to this day!
The following was extracted from: http://www.infotec-travel.com/txt/it791.txt
>Last week I flew on a Delta flight from Atlanta to Tampa on a L-1011
>and got to see something really cool.
....
[stuff about GPS driven position indicators on civil flights.]
....
>Really a nice system which was well received by many people on board -
>even our flight crew had not seen it before.
The following story is *NOT* an urban legend but happened last year on
Sept 5th.
Northwest Airlines flight 52 from Detroit to Frankfurt flew to the
wrong airport. The pilot was unaware that he was touching down at
Brussels despite the fact that the passengers and crew of the plane
could all see the GPS system in the cabin showing they were landing in
Brussels.
The flight attendants decided not to warn the pilots, fearing a hijack
was underway and because of rules forbidding contact with the crew on
a final approach.
The pilot was relieved from duty and a new crew flew to Brussels to
collect the flight and fly it on to Frankfurt. It arrived seven hours
late.
[for a slightly more complete version of the story you will need to
call up the Electronic Telegraph on http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
You can find the story by searching back issues with the following
keys: airline brussels frankfurt landing]
60
posted on
02/21/2002 7:17:03 PM PST
by
_Jim
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