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Fightin' Whities swamped with T-shirt requests
Denver Post ^ | March 13, 2002 | Coleman Cornelius

Posted on 03/13/2002 9:53:47 AM PST by John Jorsett

The Fightin' Whities, an intramural basketball team of American Indians at the University of Northern Colorado, has been flooded with requests for T-shirts since news broke of the team's satirical mascot protest.

On Tuesday, the student basketball team set up an e-mail account to start taking orders - even though players have not yet figured out exactly how to mass-produce their shirts.

Would-be buyers may send T-shirt requests to fightingwhites@hotmail.com. The team will send back acknowledgments and more information. The system is meant to gauge demand while the team irons out copyright issues and checks university guidelines, said Jeff Van Iwarden, 21, one of the team's few Anglo players.

The Fightin' Whities expect to charge about $20 for their shirts and will donate all profits to a Native American cause that has yet to be determined, Van Iwarden said.

In the course of just two days, as news of the team has exploded nationwide, the players have gained countless fans across the country.

Many are clamoring for T-shirts bearing the team mascot - a 1950s-style caricature of a middle-aged white guy - and the phrase "Every thang's gonna be all white!"

The intramural basketball team's official name is "Native Pride." But the team calls itself the "Fightin' Whites" - and is widely known by the more in-your-face "Fightin' Whities" - as a jab at nearby Eaton High School.

School officials in Eaton, a farm town north of Greeley, have refused to discuss the school's mascot - the Fightin' Reds - despite complaints from area Native Americans who see it as a degrading stereotype.

Eaton High School's mascot is a caricature of an Indian with a misshapen nose, wearing a loincloth and eagle feather.

The UNC team was frustrated that pleas for tolerance were misunderstood or discounted, they said. So the players decided to use some provocative humor to stir up the debate.

"Walk in someone else's shoes, and then you can make a judgment," said Ryan White, 22, a team player and member of the Mohawk Nation.


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To: Dan from Michigan
If you notice sports teams are named after "tough fighters or animals". You don't see the Detroit Bunny Rabbits, you see the Detroit Lions. There are a reason that you see team names like Bulldogs, Spartans, Wolverines, Fighting Irish, Celtics, Trojans, Jaguars, Lions, Tigers, Grizzlies, Bears, Chippewas, Hurons, Eagles, Timberwolves, Highlanders, Seminoles, and Vikings. You don't see teams named after the rabbits, mice, rats, squirrels, French, peaceniks, and the like.

That must explain the University of California, Santa Cruz Banana Slugs!

61 posted on 03/13/2002 11:05:25 AM PST by gracie1
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To: ThreePantherEightyDuce
Cool logo!!! Bump!
62 posted on 03/13/2002 11:07:20 AM PST by dcwusmc
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To: John Jorsett
Shouldn't it be "Fightin' Whiteys"???
63 posted on 03/13/2002 11:08:34 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: Phantom Lord
The University of Oregon has to license their image from Disney. (Go Ducks!) You can see why:


64 posted on 03/13/2002 11:08:38 AM PST by ThreePantherEightyDuce
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To: Phantom Lord
I think it may be a copywrited image. Looks pretty close to an image on a line of tee shirts with slogans like "Beer, helping ugly people get laid since 1856" that I've seen sold in Rockabillia cataloges.
65 posted on 03/13/2002 11:18:07 AM PST by gracie1
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To: Leto
"..Wonder if they have caps too?"

Nope, just eagle-bonnets! (just kidding)

66 posted on 03/13/2002 11:19:49 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: BornOnTheFourth
My wife went to UCSC. She occasionally can be heard uttering "Vivat Slug."
67 posted on 03/13/2002 11:22:17 AM PST by TBP
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To: John Jorsett
I can see it now, every group of KKK members in the country will be running around with their fighting whities Ts.... Man, for a group trying to end the stereotype of being ignorant drunks, these American Indians really weren't very bright.
69 posted on 03/13/2002 11:40:54 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Dog Gone
They were trying to ridicule a white southern accent much like some of us ridicule ebonics.

I know, just poking a little fun at the Kings english.

71 posted on 03/13/2002 11:45:21 AM PST by Doomonyou
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To: ThreePantherEightyDuce
Gotta have one of those shirts!
73 posted on 03/13/2002 11:46:54 AM PST by Doomonyou
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To: John Jorsett
"Walk in someone else's shoes, and then you can make a judgment," said Ryan White, 22, a team player and member of the Mohawk Nation.

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Ummm...Maybe Ryan should change his name....not very PC...for someone who talks the PC game.

Had a patient in the hospital by the name of Whitekiller....Didn't bother me in the least....of course I'm part Indian. Hehehehe......

And let's not forget Wilma Mankiller.....Surprised more of the N.O.W. gang...don't adopt that name for themselves..!!Ha!!

Never ceases to amaze me..what people get their feathers fluffed up about.......

74 posted on 03/13/2002 11:48:34 AM PST by Osage Orange
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To: John Jorsett
This is too weird. TexasAggie79 posted the same story on the other forum. I'm so confused that this all makes sense. That's scary.
75 posted on 03/13/2002 11:49:37 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: John Jorsett
Posted in G.I. where it belongs.
76 posted on 03/13/2002 11:55:36 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: John Jorsett
How about the 'Surrendering Frenchies'?

No, it's "Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys."

77 posted on 03/13/2002 11:56:50 AM PST by Palmetto
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To: John Jorsett
"Maybe they're actually honoring Communists."

Some clever supporter of the "Fightin' Reds" should silk screen onto a t-shirt one of those Soviet patriotic posters from WW II. That would be sufficiently confusing to all concerned.

And they could get an oversized papier-mache Lenin head for their mascot. Their cheerleaders could be guys in drag a la the East German Olympic team.

78 posted on 03/13/2002 11:57:14 AM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: John Jorsett
"Walk in someone else's shoes, and then you can make a judgment,"

(from Jack Handey, I think) "Never criticize a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. That way, he'll be a mile away and you'll have his shoes."

79 posted on 03/13/2002 12:02:11 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck
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To: John Jorsett
How about the 'Surrendering Frenchies'?

ROFLOL&LMAO

Yeah, Frenchies!!

80 posted on 03/13/2002 12:06:51 PM PST by muleskinner
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