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Now That Bush Has Sold Us Out... What are we going to do about it? (vanity)

Posted on 03/13/2002 2:47:41 PM PST by Michael2001

Well I'm mad and I'm angry, and maybe that's why I can't think of an appropriate response. While all of us were prasing him for how he was dealing with the war on terror, Bush passes this Amnesty Bill, something that not even the sneaky Bill Clinton would do. This is one of the worse Bills to pass through Congress, it will hurt us in many ways, and ten years from now we will still be feeling it's effects.

Bush has, without a doubt in my mind, sold us out for the Hispanic vote. He sold us out because he can take our vote for granted (who will we vote for Al Gore?). Is he wrong? What do we do when the Republicans stop looking out for our interests? Is it time for a new party, or do we work within the party and try to root out the Republicans In Name Only (of which there are many)?


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To: Joe Hadenuf
Your attempt to minimize this massive invasion into our country by millions of illegal aliens is truly offensive.

Well....there you go again. Show me the "millions" that this very restrictive extension covers. BTW did you see the part of the bill that states that this is NOT a change to our immigration laws nor is it to be interpreted as such?

601 posted on 03/13/2002 9:03:40 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Constitutional_Republican
"(I even had the pleasure of someone calling one of my posts in this thread the dumbest they had ever seen -- the highlight of my day)."

LOL I hate when that happens! Don't take it personally, though. Have you seen some of the insults thrown around here tonight? I understand the "knee-jerky" thing...I feel the same way.

"We would solve so many of the problems we face as a nation if we returned to using the wisdom of the Constitution as a yardstick for governing."

This is so true.

602 posted on 03/13/2002 9:04:25 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: meanspirit77
I hardly know what to say to your crap. If it's so important to you for us to achieve a socialist utopia, I don't care for what reason, get the eff over to DU right this minute. If you truly want this, you have no call to even be on this forum. MOST of us on this forum don't want one, except of course for the Dem moles (many on this thread. Get a clue, people! On DU they have figured out that all they have to do to pass on this forum is register and then lay low for a while! They are here and they are working you.) and the psychos. I'm not sure which you are; it doesn't even matter 'cause the result's the same. You work against us. You are an enemy.
603 posted on 03/13/2002 9:04:56 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Howlin
"From what I've read over the last 24 hours from level-headed sources, that amounts to about 200,000 people

So Pat was lying tonight on HARDBALL when he said it automatically gave 1,000,000 Mexicans amnesty?"

Hannity said several million today
Savage said 10 million today
Dick Armey said Zero get amnesty today !

Looks like the richt is self destructing right before our eyes?

604 posted on 03/13/2002 9:06:13 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Texasforever
True southerners are not afraid of the guy that mows their lawn

Which brings to mind-- a Sikh family, who lived down our street for over ten years, did landscaping (mowed lawns) and always had news cars, toys, and remodels, in-ground pool, etc-- suddenly moved out after failing to sell their home for too much money-- the house has been sitting unoccupied for almost 4 mos. SWAT Cops surrounded it once after they were gone for a month, but no one was home-- looking for one of the grown sons. I thought it was just a simple question of the house being repossessed-- I'm beginning to think they were having a problem with the IRS, but it could be INS. No one seems to know what happened. Who knows-- maybe they were afraid of terrorist Americans, and moved back to wherever they came from. No one in our neighborhood would hurt them, but who knows what happened to their business after 9/11.

605 posted on 03/13/2002 9:06:28 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: Cultural Jihad
You wouldn't say that if 4ourprogeny were black or Hispanic.
606 posted on 03/13/2002 9:08:09 PM PST by dougherty
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To: america-rules
It's 200,000.
607 posted on 03/13/2002 9:08:31 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Lunatic Fringe
You folks are going to rip this party apart. Keep it up....

That appears to be the point.
Sour Grapes to the nines.g

608 posted on 03/13/2002 9:11:54 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Howlin
You seem to have posted that number a lot. LOL. Does it matter with the nativists? Of course not. They have such a deep seated angst that numbers don't matter. But as time goes by, I intend to keep feeding them numbers. Lots of numbers. But then you already knew I liked numbers. Right?
609 posted on 03/13/2002 9:12:48 PM PST by Torie
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To: Howlin
It's under 5M.
610 posted on 03/13/2002 9:13:08 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Howlin
I, too, have read and heard 200,000. This is for people who have a family member or employer who will sponsor them. Then, they pay a fine. Then, they have a chance to become citizens.

It's hardly the hysterical scenario some have painted it to be; I was very worried about it...then I found out what it was.

By the way, Michael Medved - the very articulate and very conservative radio talk host - thinks this is a great bill.

Where are all the people who thought Ronald Reagan was our greatest president? Didn't he do something like this? Did they break out in hives then?

611 posted on 03/13/2002 9:14:19 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Torie
The thing that kills me is that it's not even about CITIZENSHIP.......it's about GREEN CARDS.
612 posted on 03/13/2002 9:15:33 PM PST by Howlin
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To: jeremiah
He could circumvent the Rats giving blanket amnesty, by ordering the immediate deportation of any and all peoples in this country illegaly.

Thats a great idea, but, unfortunately,not realistic.

If 9/11 didn't result in such an order, nothing will.

Don't forget that it would be the INS doing the job, and they are only good at issuing visas to terrorists.

613 posted on 03/13/2002 9:16:06 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: Texasforever;Joe Hadenuf
Did you read the bill?

Texas, give it up. He will NEVER answer that question! You should have your answer by now! All Joe wants to do is giggle and criticize Cultural Jihad for avoiding the debate (I know, I know!) It is to laugh!

614 posted on 03/13/2002 9:16:28 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: DoughtyOne, Jim Robinson
I'm not giving up on the President just yet.

Having said that, I'm not comfortable with the direction the Bush Administration is taking on the domestic front.

We know pretty well how their foreign policy is conducted via Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice. I don't see an equivalent openness in who is advising the President on domestic affairs and how that policy is formulated.

Any thoughts?

615 posted on 03/13/2002 9:17:41 PM PST by Ken H
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
It's hardly the hysterical scenario some have painted it to be; I was very worried about it...

So was I!

then I found out what it was

Either some people are REALLY late to the party, or they just do not care what kind of cake we are serving.

616 posted on 03/13/2002 9:17:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
But green cards might lead to citizenship. Oh the horror.
617 posted on 03/13/2002 9:18:02 PM PST by Torie
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To: jeremiah
The solution is to vote for who best represents your beliefs, and let the chips fall where they may.

Yes, it is. However, the party hacks are already here trying to keep everyone in line.

618 posted on 03/13/2002 9:19:25 PM PST by dougherty
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To: PRND21
"There is no excuse for withholding health insurance from Texas children," Sanchez concluded. "Texas should be looking at strengthening the CHIP program, not limiting it."(Socialized health care ---for the children ---a lot like Hillary)
http://www.tonysanchez.com/news/newsreleases/010802.htm

It's time citizens were allowed to elect those responsible for regulating their essential services--heating, lighting and telephones. That's why I have proposed combining the Texas Public Utility Commission and the Texas Railroad Commission into a single agency -- elected by popular vote.
http://www.tonysanchez.com/issues/default.htm#health

HOUSTON - Texas Democratic gubernatorial candidate Tony Sanchez wowed - and wooed - members of Houston's gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community last weekend with promises for a state government that "will fairly represent all Texans." Sanchez appeared at a private home in Montrose and spoke to the crowd of about 75 people for about two hours.

"He's not a barn-burner, but I would say that the barn got warm," said Kathy Hubbard, co-owner of Hubbard Financial Services and Houston City Council Member Annise Parker's life-partner.

Sanchez has said he supports domestic partner benefits and opposes bills that would outlaw gay and lesbian parenting and foster parenting. "I was delighted by his statements that anti-GLBT adoption bills are outrageous and offensive and that he would promptly veto them," Hubbard said. "He said such laws would deny children the right to a happy home and that the state has no interest in disrupting happy families."

"One of the things that was especially insightful, was that he said that when he was elected governor, the gay and lesbian community will be represented in his administration and not just on gay and lesbian issues, but all the issues that are important to Texas," said Houstonian John Michael Gonzales, chair of D.C.-based AIDS Action Foundation. "What that says to me is that this man thinks that our community has something to offer and not just on the issues that affect us narrowly; he believes that we're full-fledged Texans." Sanchez also detailed his support for the Texas Employment

Non-Discrimination Act, a bill that has been introduced in each of the last several sessions of the Texas Legislature by openly-gay Austin State Representative Glen Maxey. He also stated his support for Dallas State Representative Harryette Erhardt's education bill banning discrimination based upon sexual orientation in Texas schools.
http://www.txtriangle.com/archive/1016/sanchez.htm

"It's been a long primary and we've only got about three days to go," Sanchez told the mostly Hispanic crowd. "My wife and my children and I are sacrificing a lot of our time, a lot of our resources to try to give something back to Texas, because we want to make Texas fair and equal and respectful to all people."

Both major Democrats identify coverage for a million uninsured children as a top priority, along with proposals to pay for it. Tony Sanchez, candidate for governor says, "We'll have those when I'm elected governor of Texas. I think that's one of the first things I'll do to make sure those children are covered." Clearly it is not just a Hispanic issue; still Tony Sanchez talked about it at a clinic catering to Hispanics.
http://www.khou.com/news/state/khou020130_jm_MoralesSanchez.8967cca.html

And minutes after Sanchez secured his Democratic victory over fellow Mexican-American Dan Morales by winning 60 percent of the vote, Perry — at an election night party in San Antonio — vowed he would win the Latino vote in November. “I think it’s important for us to respect the culture, and I’m going to get the Hispanic vote,” he said

Morales suggested that Sanchez — by insisting that Spanish and English be treated equally — was trying to divide voters by race, ethnicity and language. Sanchez accused Morales of being “embarrassed” to be Hispanic and chided his opposition to affirmative action in state universities.
http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/0313-sanfolo.shtml

619 posted on 03/13/2002 9:20:39 PM PST by FITZ
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To: stands2reason
He will NEVER answer that question!

Please read 560. LOL!

620 posted on 03/13/2002 9:21:11 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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