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FBI agents said to oppose inquiry (shooting of Eagle Scout in Maryland)
Baltimore Sun ^ | March 15, 2002 | Gail Gibson

Posted on 03/15/2002 6:22:07 AM PST by Mulder

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Two senior agents from the FBI's Baltimore office told a private detective yesterday that the mistaken shooting of an unarmed Pasadena man likely would be ruled a "clean shoot," and discouraged him from looking into the case further, the investigator said in an interview. Dudley F.B. "Butch" Hodgson, a former FBI agent who has been retained by the shooting victim's lawyers, said he was told by one of the agents: "There's no middle ground in this thing. You're either with us or against us."


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; fbi; gun; policestate
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To: ChareltonHest
They may have done some good, but they have also covered for their paid killers like Ron Huiruiche (spelling). What responsible agency does that?
121 posted on 03/15/2002 7:33:35 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Twodees
The accusation of the delay was made by the girl who was with Schultz. Note that the time line doesn't say when the shooting itself happened. A glaring omission.

Rabid dogs.

122 posted on 03/15/2002 7:34:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: ChareltonHest
all they do is run around like a biker gang ruining people's lives

An insult to biker gangs everywhere <GRIN>

123 posted on 03/15/2002 7:34:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Twodees
I think the source of the claim was the Father of the girl in the car. He apparently made statements on a radio program that his daughter had begged the FBI officers through this long delay during which the young man lay handcuffed on the ground.

I don't know if, during the medical attention at the scene, the man remained handcuffed or what. But I can imagine that it would seem like forever if you are laying there watching your loved one like that regardless of how long the delay actually was.

124 posted on 03/15/2002 7:35:00 PM PST by Database
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To: ChareltonHest
I forgot to add in my last post that all Federal Agencies are routinely becoming more like special-forces trained ninjas than police officers. More and more of these Federal Agencies are even getting their own swat teams. The Bureau of Land Management even has swat teams now, I understand.
125 posted on 03/15/2002 7:36:20 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Mulder
Dudley F.B. "Butch" Hodgson, a former FBI agent who has been retained by the shooting victim's lawyers, said he was told by one of the agents: "There's no middle ground in this thing. You're either with us or against us."

That sounds to me like a threat uttered with intent to obstruct justice.

128 posted on 03/15/2002 7:48:19 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: ChareltonHest
Ok, I looked at the photos. What are they for?
130 posted on 03/15/2002 7:56:59 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: cynwoody
"That sounds to me like a threat uttered with intent to obstruct justice."

The difference is, they can get away with it.

131 posted on 03/15/2002 7:57:43 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Mulder
They say the office opinion on this case is, 'It's a good shooting . . .

Christopher Baga's own personal handcart to Hell is accelerating towards its destination. . .

Hey Man, Nice Shot

132 posted on 03/15/2002 8:00:37 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: RocketWolf
Could you then please explain the " Clean Shoot" at the Little Bohemia Lodge where the feebs machinegunned innocent diners while Dillinger escaped out the back window ?

Will Rogers summed up that episode thus:

Well, they had Dillinger surrounded and was all ready to shoot him when he come, but another bunch of folks come out ahead, so they just shot them instead.
I once heard former Special Agent G. Gordon Liddy give a talk in which he recounted his extensive FBI training back in the fifties.  Agents needed to do the right thing automatically under pressure.  They spent a lot of time on the range shooting (or not shooting, as appropriate) popup targets. The Number One Rule was "Don't embarrass the bureau!". And just about the most bureau-embarrassing thing you could do was to drill a "citizen".
133 posted on 03/15/2002 8:12:11 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
A little info on this assassin:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/01/25/busdriver.hearing/

http://tryingforsense.blogspot.com/
UPDATE:
The shooter is FBI Special Agent Christopher Braga. Agent Braga is on paid administrative leave, at his request, since the shooting March 1 of Joseph C. Schultz. Note: paid admin leave, not suspension.

http://www.iaati.org/3m_awards_static.asp
Special Agent Christopher R. Braga

Seems like Christopher R. Bragga, 35, father of 3, is a shoe in for entry into the FBI Hall of Shame

134 posted on 03/15/2002 8:26:10 PM PST by gwynapnudd
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To: Mulder
These FBI dudes are slimey. Sounds like something close to obstruction of justice.
135 posted on 03/15/2002 8:54:07 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Twodees
"The "serious juice" behind his investigation could very well just be his own personal integrity and the trademark courage of an innocent man.

Could be. But two high powered pieces in the Baltimore press today, one being by a celebrity ex-crime reporter and author of the landmark Homicide series, tells me that there's an offense play in the works that the FBI wasn't ready for - especially with the sudden flurry of names thrown out to the public. Oh yeah, there's a little bit of a panic right now. Just too bad it came out on a Friday and not a Monday.

137 posted on 03/15/2002 9:37:47 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: harpseal
All the Staat Sekuritat (FBI) needs to do to shut witnesses up is follow them around in SUVs, and bump into them on sidewalks and so on. Very, very effective, and if they complain, they will be painted as a paranoid.
138 posted on 03/15/2002 9:41:05 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: meia
check your history. the shooting of Randy Weavers wife was not done by FBI agents. Put coin in slot and try again.
139 posted on 03/15/2002 9:44:53 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: unamused
After the trouble making "against us" P.I. is found in his car at the bottom of a lake with a gunshot wound to the temple, it will be revealed that he was taking medicationS for depression.

ES IST VERBOTEN, STAAT SEKURITAT ZU KRITISIERON!

140 posted on 03/15/2002 9:46:15 PM PST by Travis McGee
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