Border Patrol encounters Mexican soldiers: Heavily armed foreign troopers on U.S. turf near Tecate

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, March 16, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

[JohnHuang2]

A U.S. Border Patrol officer has encountered four heavily armed Mexican army soldiers on the U.S. side of the border near San Diego.

The soldiers, armed with three submachine guns and one M-16 rifle, crossed the border near Tecate, Mexico, while on a counter-drug mission, Border Patrol spokesman James Jacques said. They were all dressed in camouflage fatigues, said officials.

A Border Patrol agent, who was not identified in the SanDeigoChannel.com report, said he was following footsteps left by the Mexican patrol. When he encountered them, one of the Mexican soldiers had his sidearm unholstered.

The agent then unholstered his sidearm and identified himself. He told superiors the Mexican troopers then realized they were inside the U.S. and cooperated with the Border Patrol agent, who took them to a nearby Border Patrol station.

Their identities were verified by the Mexican consulate and other U.S. officials before they were returned to Mexico via the San Ysidro Port of Entry. The report did not say whether their weapons were confiscated.

"This could easily have escalated into a real tragedy," Jacques told reporters. "Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed."

The Border Patrol's Washington, D.C., headquarters did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

The March 10 incident signals a growing trend of Mexican military forces crossing into the United States.

In March 2000, WorldNetDaily reported that a group of Mexican soldiers fired on Border Patrol officers.

On March 14, 2000, "two Mexican army Humvees carrying about 16 armed soldiers drove across the international boundary and into the United States near Santa Teresa, New Mexico," said a statement issued at the time by the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing about 8,300 "non-supervisory" Border Patrol personnel.

There the vehicles pursued a Border Patrol vehicle, which was "outfitted with decals and emergency lights (that were activated for much of the pursuit) over a mile into the United States," the union said.

The lead Mexican army vehicle, said the council, contained nine soldiers "armed with seven automatic assault rifles, one submachine gun and two .45 caliber pistols," and was eventually apprehended by other Border Patrol units.

The second Mexican army Humvee, however, "pursued a Border Patrol agent on horseback and fired a shot at him. The soldiers then disembarked their vehicle, fired upon one more Border Patrol agent and chased another agent before fleeing [back] to Mexico in their vehicle."

Then, in November, two border patrolmen who had just disembarked from a "clearly marked Border Patrol helicopter" immediately came under fire from a 10-man unit of what appeared to be soldiers with the Mexican army, according to L. Keith Weeks, vice president of the National Border Patrol Union Local 1613 in San Diego, Calif.

The second incident reportedly occurred Oct. 24 in Copper Canyon, about eight miles east of the Otay Mesa Port of Entry.

About eight shots were fired, Weeks said. "Once other Border Patrol agents neared the scene, the soldiers retreated to Mexico and drove off in a minivan," he added.

News of the incursion comes as President Bush earlier this week convinced the House leadership to attach an amnesty bill to a series of other non-controversial bills that usually don't require much debate. The measure was passed.

Critics of Bush's bill say the granting of amnesty to millions of illegals rewards illegal behavior, worsens domestic security and demoralizes the Border Patrol and other law enforcement agencies charged with enforcing immigration laws.

On Wednesday, Bush signed into law the "Family Sponsor Immigration Act of 2002," which, the White House said, "allows an alternative family member to sign the necessary affidavit of support for an alien in the event of the death of the relative who initially filed a petition for permanent resident status for the alien."

[Ajnin]

Illegal aliens don't care about the "American Dream." As a matter of fact they don't even care about America. Do you want to know what these people really think about America, just ask me the question and then I'll go ask them. There's about 30 illegals in my station right now. Go ahead ask me.

[Dane]

Illegal aliens don't care about the "American Dream." As a matter of fact they don't even care about America. Do you want to know what these people really think about America, just ask me the question and then I'll go ask them. There's about 30 illegals in my station right now. Go ahead ask me.

Why the hell are you posting on FR for then? Shouldn't you be doing your job? Oh that's right you can't be fired by congressional edict.

[rawe]

So now the "American Dream" includes breaking the law and entering a country illegally?......Man....Things and values sure have changed in America......

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

I cannot understand why these Border Patrol agents would accept the lunacy of an order not to return fire. These agents are risking their lives even under normal circumstances. That the U.S. government asks them to be targets for armed Mexicans is a disgrace and a call to action to rid this country of elected leadership gone mad.

I worked hard for Bush to be elected and this makes me wonder why.

[antidemocommie]

If I had been the border patrolman that encountered these nuts, I would have told them to drop their weapons on the spot after reinforcements arrived. If they didn't, well, too bad for them.

[Sabertooth]

Since you seem to be agreeing with the rest of my replies on this thread, I may safely assume you haven't read all of my replies. I suggest you do so before attacking.

First, I didn't attack you.

I made an observation about a post... I said it sounded like like you're from East of the Mississippi and North of the Mason-Dixon. Watch these colonista threads long enough, and you'll notice a trend... The more North and East an American is, the more likely they're going to be to soft sell or just not understand what's happening with the invasion of illegals in the Southwest.

Sorry if that sounded like an attack.

Second, I don't understand how you could say that I agree with your replies, and then say that I haven't read them.

How can I agree with what I haven't read? Assuming that's the case.

In fact, I've read your replies, and don't entirely agree or disagree. You seem like your heart's in the right place, but don't really think we can do much about illegals.

Further, I strongly disagree with the premis of your post at #30:

What exactly is in this amnesty bill, besides giving green cards to aliens who've been stuck in INS limbo but would get their green cards anyway, that has got you so worked up?

Take a look...

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment. Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.

Section 245(i) is all about illegals.

The recent mini-amnesty pushed through the House by the Bush Administration extends dealines, allowing approxiamately 200,000 illegals to pay $1000 and continue to stay in this country.

The Amnesty of 1986, which I foolishly supported, was supposed to be a one time deal... That was a promise made to the American People by Ronald Reagan and the Congress.

Therefore, having seen how that Amnesty was such a disaster, opening the floodgates for unthought of colonistas, I vehemently oppose all Amnesties, in any form, by whatever name.

[abigail2]

Wow, this is getting surreal!

[shezza]

the Mexican troopers then realized they were inside the U.S. and cooperated with the Border Patrol agent

So how much would it cost U.S. taxpayers to set up a 2000-mile chain-link fence with razor wire on top? They didn't realize they were in the U.S.? Something is wrong with this picture.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

[Ben Bolt]

The president of this Republic has always been a globalist . I critique the hell out of him , and I do have something to say about it . what I dont do , is act like a social misfit because I dont get my way 2d's . I'm late showing up here and by all means reply . I'll see you in another thread I am certain .

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

I have done some research. We could build a wall 30-feet high the entire 2,000-mile length of the U.S./Mexico border for about $6 billion. That is less than half of the $15 billion airline bailout and would be permanent. It is also a fraction of the cost of the monetary damages of 9/11. Anyone arguing a wall cannot be built is full of it. It is not a question of CAN'T. It is a question of WON'T.

Here is a photo of exactly the kind of pre-fab concrete wall than can be built with established techniques. This is a highway noise wall in Nashville TN. America has built hundreds of miles of these walls along freeways all over the country.

[Twodees]

Sorry, but I don't know what you're getting at.

[blam]

"George Bush will pay for sneaking this amnesty bill through, behind the backs of the American people, come election time."

Yup. It'll be "Read My Lips" all over again!

[goldilucky]

I have to say that I agree with Sabertooth about opposing Amnesty for all illegals. And yes, this is getting surreal as it is a heated issue that our House of Representatives and Congress have chosen to ignore due to an oath they have sworn to which is in conflict with the Constitution of the U.S. of A.

A relative of mine is getting ready to be stationed on the border of Arizona very soon. He has made the choice to protect this country not only from illegals flooding in but also terrorist flooding in through those very channels. As some of these illegals may be armed, I pray he will use necessary means to protect himself from being attacked by these aliens as they do not love America. If it were not for me litigating some matters, I'd be out there armed and ready to protect those borders as this country is just getting prepared for another civil war. It is just a matter of time. I estimate within two years.

[PRND21]

Polish his shoes while you're down there, will you?

I used to do that, but an illegal took my job.

TwoDees?
Dem Disruptor or Dum Dum?

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you Abigail. This was posted on the forum the other day. The important part that was left out in this story is that Mexican national police have the right to cross into the USA. As a part of NAFTA they were given dual powers on both side of the border. If I remember correctly it was something like 60 miles to begin with, expanding to something like 150 - 200 miles at a later date, possible already passed.

Back when I'd been following this closely, I remember calculating that the limit would see them legal as far into our nation as Santa Barbara or close to it. How's that for a sovereignty issue?

[Tuor]

I don't see what the problem is. I mean, the Mexican government has a vested interested in protecting its people. And we all know that they have a *lot* of citizens here in the US to protect.

Tuor

[Tuor]

Sounds like one to me, too.

How is it that we have a fence along the border with Canada, but not one along the border with Mexico? Our Canadian border is *much* longer than the Mexican one, yet it is the longer border that has the fence.

Tuor

[PRND21]

Our Canadian border is *much* longer than the Mexican one, yet it is the longer border that has the fence.

Why do you suppose the terrorists chose it?

[Tuor]

His reasons will become evident as time goes on.

Don't forget that Bush is a globalist. I'm sure this has something to do with some globalist agenda. As you said, we'll find out eventually; but by then, it'll probably be too late.

Tuor