The truth about our troops in Nam.

ACP and The New American and Lt. Gen. Hal Moore ^ | Saturday March 16th, 2002 | pastor at ACP

[Alas]

Are you a Viet Nam era vet?
Are you the son or daughter of a Viet Nam era vet?
Are you the parents or grandparents of a Viet Nam era vet?
If so, you really want to take your time and read this:

Weekend of March 16^th & 17^th, 2002

"I (Yeshua) am the true vine, and My Father (Yahweh) is the husbandman."

As you read what is one of the shortest chapters in John, you'll find that Jesus is the God of truth, honesty, integrity and life, therefore by default making satan the god of all things that are evil. Back in 1962 or so, the US got heavily involved in a country called Viet Nam. While we had had military involvement before, it was in 62 that things started getting public knowledge and scrutiny. Up til that time, the so called main stream news had been both objective and to a degree patriotic. This led men and their families who had served in WW2 and Korea to believe what the news reported on Viet Nam and our involvement in it.

Now, I'm am going to give you some links that show just how corrupt and lying the media and the administrations, both Republican and Democrat, were during those years. If you served in the US Military between the years of 1958 and today, if you had a dad, mom, brother, sister, son or daughter who served in the Viet Nam era, 1958 till 1978, you need to read not only this sermon, but also the links I have supplied.

And as for those who knock my source, the John Birch Society, to them I will say this, who is it that has given you the impression that the John Birch Society is anything other than 100% upstanding? Was it not the Peter Jennings, the Ted Kennedys, and the leftist of the media and the political world? Why would you believe them? Stop letting those who serve satan deceive you into thinking that those who serve Christ are wrong. For as you read the links, what you are going to find out is that those who fought and served in the Viet Nam theater and era served the forces of Christ, those who hampered their efforts served satan.

Now, let us read John Chapter Fifteen

1 I (Yeshua) am the true vine, and My Father(Yahweh) is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in Me that beareth not fruit He taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, He purgeth (prunes) it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in Me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches:

He that abideth in Me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without Me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in Me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto (for) you.

8 Herein is my Father glorified,

that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be My disciples. 9 As the Father hath loved Me, so have I loved you: continue ye in My love. 10 If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love; even as I have kept My Father's commandments, and abide in His love.

11 These things have I spoken unto you, that My joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12 This is My commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14 Ye are My friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his Lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you. 16 Ye have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in My name, He may give it you.

17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his Lord. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not Him that sent Me.

22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. 23 He that hateth Me hateth My Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father. 25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE (Psalms 35:19 & 69:4).

26 But when the Comforter (God the holy Spirit) is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of Me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with Me from the beginning. (John Chapter Fifteen ACP/KJV)

Seven myths about Viet Nam
Vindicating our men.

I have purposely made this weekend's thought short. I have done this in the hopes that you would go and study the two links provided. I have also done this so that you can come to realize that the so called main stream media is not your friend but your sworn enemy, for they do not serve the God of truth, Christ, but the god of lies, satan.

I pray that you will understand and see that the Republicans are no more interested in restoring an honest government than are the communists disguised as Democrats.

58,000 men are listed on a black wall, the wall is as black as the hearts of the politicians and media that sold them out. When are you going to stop voting party and start voting for honesty? When are you going to stop blindly supporting, funding and voting for the lesser of two evils? When are you going to demand a restoration of our Constitutional Republic?

Oh, God in heaven, help us, help us Lord or rapture us, but rescue us from the likes of walter cronkite, peter jennings, joe biden, olympia snowe, ted kennedy, susan collins, collin powell and the rest of those who serve satan openly and blatantly enslaving Your people and undermining the rights You have given us by Your word and by Your servants our founding fathers.

Open our eyes Lord, help us to understand and do Your will, help us to stop serving the powers of this earth and the media that so corrupts our minds with the filth of their programs and the lies they call news.

Amen

[Alas]

I guess most of us knew this, but a lot of our kind didn't. Gotta be a special place in hell for the likes of johnson and kissenger, their ilk and their minions.

Nukem

[FRMAG]

BUMP

[nmh]

Yeah but people are hooked on the silly notion that "the lessor of the two evils" should be elected. Silly, yes. Foolish, indeed. You see evil is evil and a "lessor" degree of evil is STILL EVIL. Shhhh don't tell that to the sheeple. They might begin to THINK and STRAIGHTEN UP before it is too late. I believe it is too late.

[Ff--150]

bump--viet nam vet

[Alas]

Shhhh don't tell that to the sheeple

God refers to His as sheep, the jennings of this world have made us think that 'Sheep People', Sheeple' are bad, they have been so good at it, that we now use the term ourselves in a derogatory manner.

Nukem

[rockfish59]

'we were soldiers' is a great movie.
the ending showed the stupid media stumbling out of the helicopter.
the media is the TRUE enemy of America!

my brother (on the right) at cu-chi, 1966

[Alas]

my brother (on the right) at cu-chi, 1966

Do you mind if I put that picture up here?

[rockfish59]

no problem!!

[VietVet]

"...People are still hooked on the silly notion that the 'lesser of two evils' should be elected. .... evil is evil and the lesser evil is STILL EVIL..."

And so you would vote for ...? The *greater* of two evils? Not vote? And thereby effectively remove yourself from the political community, so that your views no longer need to be considered?

[Alas]

my brother (on the right) at cu-chi, 1966

[Alas]

There is no differance between the likes of susan collins (R) Maine and ted kennedy (D) Massachusetts. To sit out the upcoming election in Maine, even if that means the democrat wins, sends a clear message to the Republican party of Maine, we, the one percent, will not vote for a left wing liberal baby killing clinton supporting republican any faster than we will a left wing baby killing democrat.

If the R's want our votes, let them give us candidates we can support, ones that are Pro-Christ, pro-life and pro-Constitution.

Many of us are now comitted to nolonger voting for the lesser of the two evils. I voted for neither Bush nor Gore, nor did my wife and many of our friends. Had President Bush convinced the pro-life community that he would work to save the lives of babies in the womb, there would have been no need for the recount after recount.

Yu will now ask if we would have been happy if gore had been elected. To that I would say no, but, I still would not walk across the street to votre for George Walker Bush the second.

In the last year of the clinton regime, 1,700,000 US babies were slaughtered int eh womb. In the first year of the Bush regime, 1,700,000 babies were slaughtered in the womb.

A man who will not do all in his power to stop the murder of a baby in the womb, will not raise a finger to help me. If a man is so stupid that he doesn't realize that that little guy in the womb is a baby, then he is to stupid for me to vote for.

[rockfish59]

thanks, Alas!
by the way, he got home alive!
he now manages a paint store in ukiah, calif.

[Alas]

We haven't had a true candidate for office since before I was born.

Sad. but true. At fifty eight, I can not think of one candeidate, who was elected, that put the nation and the Constitution first. Or even had it on their agenda.

Alas

[VietVet]

"If the R[epublicans]want our vote, then let them give us candidates we can support..."

"We haven't had a true candidate for office since before I was born."

And what have *you* done about it? Have you volunteered to work for a candidate? Have you run for office yourself?

Neither party is going to "give" you anything. You have to work for it. And in politics that means delivering votes. (Don't give me the line about money trumping votes either; money is wanted because it buys votes)

You want to influence the Party (either the GOP, The Democrats, the Reform, the Libertarian, whatever)? Get active in it. If you don't vote, they don't care what you say. Shoot! They won't even hear what you say, if you are not out there talking to the people who make up the party at the local level.

[VietVet]

"...I assume you are a blind, party hack."

You can assume whatever you want. If you have any idea that your assumptions are somehow representative of the truth, you only display your ignorance.

[Red Jones]

another interesting fact about vietnam is that if our troops hadn't been there during that time, then Thailand, Malaysia & Singapore would've been taken by the communists instead of merely Vietnam, Cambodia & Laos. They took half of southeast asia. Without us there they would've gotten all of it. That was the conclusion of the Thai military people & other military observers at the time. While our troops were in nam the thais built enough strength to avoid being over-run.

But I'm with you all the way Alas, we need to vote for honest people, not just for a particular party. I live in AZ. The republicans dominate arizona. They have done an absolutely terrible job the last few years at handling money. Any self-respecting citizen in my opinion should vote straight democrat in 2002 in AZ because of it. That's how we have to behave in my view. Throw the bums out frequently. Be willing to cross party lines. Throw the liberal Republican out even if it means putting a liberal dem in because next time you'll at least have a chance to get a real conservative.