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Billy Graham Responds to Lingering Anger Over 1972 Remarks on Jews
AP via NY Times ^ | March 17, 2002 | AP via NY Times

Posted on 03/16/2002 8:03:22 PM PST by churchillbuff

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To: Holden Magroin
If Jews are immune from criticism, where did you learn of their faults?

Well it certainly wasn't on CNN, MSNBC, or CBS or ABC or in the pages of Time, Newsweek or US News and World Report, although everyone knows these organs criticize the "Christian right" on a regular basis.

The truth is I had never heard of Jonathan Pollard or the USS Liberty until I started reading Free Republic.

I'm sure the same is true for many people.

141 posted on 03/19/2002 5:20:17 PM PST by Blade
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To: Blade
I read about both Jonathan Pollard and the USS Liberty long before I joined Free Republic. Maybe you just don't read.

Do me a favor. Before you go to sleep tonight, drill a hole in the side of your head, and then lay on one side so that the BS will ooze out.

142 posted on 03/19/2002 5:57:29 PM PST by Holden Magroin
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To: Holden Magroin;Blade
Do me a favor. Before you go to sleep tonight, drill a hole in the side of your head, and then lay on one side so that the BS will ooze out.

Think that works? Am I alone in my feeling that these thread's about an honarable 84(?) year old man, nearing the end of his life, who made a mistake and repented for it, are distasteful and disrespectful?

143 posted on 03/19/2002 6:06:49 PM PST by SJackson
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To: billbears
...I'm just not sure about the Illuminati.

International globalists, Bildegergers, Illuminati, Society of Rome, etc., it doesn't matter what they are called. They do exist, they do have a long stading agenda for establishing a one world goverennment and religion under their control, and they are patient.

144 posted on 03/19/2002 6:27:05 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: SJackson
Am I alone in my feeling that these thread's about an honarable 84(?) year old man, nearing the end of his life, who made a mistake and repented for it, are distasteful and disrespectful?

You're right. Graham probably didn't want the ADL all over him like a pack of rabid animals. So he did what he had to do.

Remember Abraham Foxman's original assessment? In typical ADL fashion, it was unmerciful. Foxman said that Graham was a purveyor of "age-old classical anti-Semitic canards."

Clearly, a tasteful, respectful comment about a man near the end of his life, right?

145 posted on 03/19/2002 6:36:10 PM PST by Blade
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To: Holden Magroin
Do me a favor. Before you go to sleep tonight, drill a hole in the side of your head, and then lay on one side so that the BS will ooze out.

Good grief, going for the invective after just one exchange?

How about discussing the issues. Are Jews inordinately represented in the Media and Hollywood or not?

146 posted on 03/19/2002 6:37:47 PM PST by Blade
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To: Blade
You're right. Graham probably didn't want the ADL all over him like a pack of rabid animals. So he did what he had to do.

We obviously disagree on the man's character. Facing his God, you think he's motivated by fear of the ADL (not really, I know you have other unspoken issues), I respect his words. I respect the man, with little concern for what he said 30 years ago, and has disclaimed. How about another few posts, demeaning his motives? You aren't on this thread posting about Billy Grahm, are you?

147 posted on 03/19/2002 6:46:48 PM PST by SJackson
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To: Blade
Are Jews inordinately represented in the Media and Hollywood or not?

Yes. Therefore what? Impose racial quotas?

148 posted on 03/19/2002 6:54:52 PM PST by Holden Magroin
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To: a_witness
You simply fear the truth because you are emotionally attached to Graham or what he symbolizes to you.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And the comparison was a slur.

150 posted on 03/20/2002 6:11:56 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: a_witness
I wasn't clear if you were going for false witness or bigotry or both. Seems like both actually. I am not sure that 'bigotry' in the true meaning of the word is correct to list as a sin based on what is written.

FYI, Here is a little history on your choice of the word bigotry.

Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant “an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.” Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense “a superstitious hypocrite.”

Also looking into the definition of bigotry you are faced with several for consideration. Taking the obvious meaning you have projected:

2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked.

It sounds like Billy to me. He has publically admitted that the only way to heaven is through Christ. Thus in the true sense of the word, he is bigoted toward not just Jews but all others that do not believe in Christ. His mission is to save them from damnation and guide them into the grace of Christ, which means he loves them despite the fact they are wicked and of the world.

I would gather that he also knows that no man is free of sin, including himself.

I see that you have accepted his apology, which is good of you, do you also accept that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?

151 posted on 03/20/2002 8:29:58 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf
Do you, like Billy Graham, repudiate antisemitism ?
152 posted on 03/23/2002 9:31:34 AM PST by a_witness
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
And your point is what, exactly? That I am a Clintonista? Again, your actions are merely more fodder for those who claim that Libertarians never think, but just take potshots at people, and throw up clever witticisms but actually argue nothing. You had no comment about my point. I am assuming that means you either agree or could not marshall a counter to it.
153 posted on 03/24/2002 11:23:17 AM PST by =Intervention=
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To: a_witness
Hey answer my question first.
154 posted on 03/25/2002 5:21:16 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf
Hey answer my question first.

You don't really believe what you think you believe because you are spiritually unable or unwilling to repudiate anti-semitism like Billy Graham.

155 posted on 03/27/2002 5:07:43 AM PST by a_witness
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To: a_witness
"You don't really believe what you think you believe because you are spiritually unable or unwilling to repudiate anti-semitism like Billy Graham."

Really now, who is unwilling? I asked you a question, Instead of answering you asked me one in return and now you are assuming things in your knowing of what I believe.

Can you answer me please? It's a simple question. I promise I will answer yours in turn.

156 posted on 03/27/2002 5:29:52 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: Enlightiator
a claim that Graham has "been playing a charade for all these years"

It's not just a claim when Graham admits it in his own words.

157 posted on 03/27/2002 5:40:09 AM PST by sakic
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To: churchillbuff
"Jewish domination of the media" may or may not be a fact. It may also be an exaggeration of a fact. It should be open to discussion.

There are, in fact, a lot of Jews who believe it to be at least partly true.

158 posted on 03/27/2002 5:45:18 AM PST by js1138
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To: sakic
You guys still here? Man this is a long lived thread! OK, you made a good point with your last post. See you next thread :)
159 posted on 03/27/2002 5:37:39 PM PST by Enlightiator
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To: CJ Wolf
Do you repudiate anti-semitism like Billy Graham did ?
160 posted on 03/28/2002 4:47:15 AM PST by a_witness
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