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GPS UNIT FOUND IN AFGAN CAVE BELONGED TO U.S. SOLDIER KILLED IN SOMALIA
ABC RADIO NEWS

Posted on 03/20/2002 10:04:22 AM PST by 1Old Pro

This announcement could tie Al Quada terrorists to Somalian war lords. Spokesman says it also could have been purchased on Black market (I find the later more unlikely).

Details to follow


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; anamericansoldier; gps; talibanlist
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To: gridlock
I always thought Al Queda was involved in Somalia. I was there before things got bad, in the late 80's, and the word was that all the guns were coming from non-governmental sources in Saudi Arabia. Nobody knew what that meant back then. Now we all know.

I believe OBL bragged about his Somalia involvement on one of his many videos.

When I heard this story over the lunch hour, I got the sick chills.

21 posted on 03/20/2002 10:49:23 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: 1Old Pro
Possible Al Qaeda-Somalia Link Found in Afghan Cave
March 20, 2002 02:47 PM ET
 

By Charles Aldinger

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In a possible long-range link to al Qaeda, U.S. troops searching an icy Afghan cave this week found a global positioning receiver taken from a decorated U.S. soldier killed in Somalia in 1993, the Pentagon said on Wednesday.

The name of Master Sgt. Gary Gordon, one of 18 Army special forces troops killed in a firefight with rebels in Mogadishu nine years ago, was found on both the satellite receiver and a pouch that it was in, defense officials told reporters.

Pentagon officials have long suspected that the deaths of the Americans in Somalia, detailed in the recent movie "Black Hawk Down", was planned by supporters of fugitive al Qaeda guerrilla leader Osama bin Laden.

Gordon, of Lincoln, Maine, was one of two U.S. soldiers posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor -- the nation's highest military award -- after the Mogadishu action. He was 33 when he died.

Air Force Brig. Gen. John Rosa told reporters at a Pentagon briefing that the name "G. Gordon" was on the hand-held global positioning device, which allows the person holding it to determine his exact position within yards.

The device was found in a cave high in Afghanistan's eastern mountains near Gardez, where U.S.-led forces this month attacked what were believed to be hundreds of regrouping al Qaeda and Taliban fighters in the 5-month-old Afghan war.

"That's a good question -- one we've been doing some thought about," Rosa replied when asked if the device could establish a link between al Qaeda in Somalia and in Afghanistan.

AN OBVIOUS TIE?

"We've said all along that we suspected Al Qaeda of being a worldwide network," he said. "In fact, this piece we currently think originated from Somalia will obviously tie -- could obviously tie -- al Qaeda to Somalia."

But he also said that the device could have been stolen in Somalia, sold on the black market and then somehow ended up in Afghanistan, where thousands of anti-Western al Qaeda fighters were trained in guerrilla camps.

Rosa, a senior operations officer on the U.S. military's Joint Staff, said the receiver was a "civilianized" version of such devices that are now commonly carried by U.S. troops.

On Oct. 3, 1993, when Gordon was killed, the military did not have many such devices. But those used at the time by hunters and boaters to determine their positions were often bought by American troops.

"Back in '93, the units were a little bit bigger and more cumbersome," the general said.

"And I remember a lot of our special forces folks would buy the off-the-shelf ones, the small ones."

He said he thought the device found in Afghanistan was turned on but did not know if it was working.

"It would help in command-and-control," Rosa said. "It gives your exact elevation and location. So for command and control, it would be able to help them."

Rosa and Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said that Gordon's family had been notified that the device was found.

Gordon and Army Sgt. First Class Randall Shughart, 35, of Lincoln, Nebraska, were posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for bravery in connection with the Mogadishu action, one of the worst military incidents involving U.S. troops since the Vietnam War.


22 posted on 03/20/2002 10:55:30 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: squantos
Have you seen this yet?
23 posted on 03/20/2002 10:56:48 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: squantos
Have you seen this yet?
24 posted on 03/20/2002 11:01:26 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: 1Old Pro
No kidding, Klintoon let this cancer grow and it cost us 3,000 lives and counting.

And will continue to grow.

25 posted on 03/20/2002 11:02:33 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This GPS unit was not useful to them. It was a trophy.

You could buy a superior unit today in any sporting goods store for a couple hundred dollars. The reason Al Qaeda had this unit is because it had personal significance, as a war trophy.

I hope the person who had this unit in the cave died slow and hard.

26 posted on 03/20/2002 11:13:19 AM PST by gridlock
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To: All
FNC just reported that the unit did not belong to that "Gary Gordon" because the manufacturer says it was made in 1998
27 posted on 03/20/2002 11:46:46 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: gridlock
I was there Aug 93 to Dec 93...no doubt now that there were major players in theater...I worked out in the same gym as a staff major from G2 who gave me little "tidbits" of intel, (not real time stuff, I don't think) just to pull my chain, but right before we rotated in he told me that it wasn't just "kids making their bones" over there...TFR arrived a couple of weeks after my unit did, and left a month and a half before we got back (Christmas day, by the way)...one of the greatest disappointments of my career was finally realizing that we weren't going to finish up that mess...it still pisses me off...
28 posted on 03/20/2002 11:47:40 AM PST by nicko
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To: 1Old Pro
"No kidding, Klintoon let this cancer grow and it cost us 3,000 lives and counting."

We need to remember to count the lives of the people working at and near the WTC who probably will contract many horrible lung diseases from breathing the air on and after September 11th.

Unfortunatly, I believe there will be many more innocent victim's of September 11th in the near and distant future.

29 posted on 03/20/2002 11:48:10 AM PST by wndycndy
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To: 1Old Pro
Army Master Sgt. Gary Gordon demonstrated the best of American bravery.

His sacrifice was only necessary because traitor Clinton* removed the Marines and our Ambassador and placed our forces under the UN with attendant mission creep, ridiculous rules of engagement and inadequate support.

[*Devoted eight years to degrading readiness, morale, equipment, funding, training, supply of U.S. military; while enhancing in every conceivable way the military capability of the Peoples Liberation Army.]

The dots connect themselves: The GPS unit disappeared in Mogadishu and reappeared in Afghanistan--Osama bin Laden announced his own involvement in both Mogadishu and 911. The team leader of 911 Atta was observed meeting with Iraqi intel. Cheney meets with Arafat who is armed by Iran with Saudi bankrolling; Iran hosts madrasahs, while Iraq pays martyrs' families bounties. Separate blossoms above ground arise from the same buried vine. Rip it up and burn it.

Aspin did his best service to the country by dying.

30 posted on 03/20/2002 11:50:00 AM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Thanks for the update. Oh well, it was an interesting story for a few hours.
31 posted on 03/20/2002 11:50:44 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: wallace212
Black Hawk Ping
32 posted on 03/20/2002 12:11:41 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Let me get this straight...under Clinton-Gore our Delta Force warriors were forced into buying GPS units on the open market???? What the heck????
33 posted on 03/20/2002 12:40:25 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
I'm going to question your ability to read. It clearly said some prefered a civilian version because of it's size.. meaning that one was issued to them but if they didn't like it some of them due to PREFERENCE choose to buy a civilian one.. now you can call into question why the military didn't purchase the favored one.. but then again it clearly said SOME PREFERED them.. not all... and you don't know if the military one was more accurate or what have you... had enough beer?
34 posted on 03/20/2002 1:01:41 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: 1Old Pro
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET that sorry a$$H*lE LES ASPIN OF WISCONSIN FOR HIS ROLE IN THE SOMALIAN MURDER OF OUR BRAVE SOLDIERS!

May he continue to burn in h__ for his inaction to supply the necessary vehicles for our soldier's defence!!!

35 posted on 03/20/2002 1:11:02 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: hchutch
I try to place myself in their shoes, I just can't imagine what it was like. They weren't brainwashed islamic simians running absurdly into enemy fire. They new very well that they were going to die or be tortured. However, they also knew how important it was for WO Durant not to die alone. They not only accomplished what they set out to do, but they surpassed their goal by saving the life of WO Durant.
36 posted on 03/20/2002 1:14:38 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: My Favorite Headache
I didn't think I could hate the Toon any more..... I was wrong. The day they arrest him for his treason, I hope a few Delta guys get to be part of the dynamic entry team...hehe.
37 posted on 03/20/2002 1:18:44 PM PST by WALLACE212
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To: gridlock
Isn't is fabulous that the State Dept flooded the U.S. with Somalian refugees? I hear that Minneapolis-St.Paul has been taken over by Somalian refugees. Also, they double-dip, they leech social services and refugee hand-outs here, then go across the border and apply for asylum in Canada, and get money from both countries. Also, Newsflash: the Afghan refugees have already started to arrive - don't worry though, just women and small children. Those children probably won't grow up to be taught that the evil infidels bombed their birthplace. They probably won't be taught to hate the US. And their mothers probably won't petition to get their husbands here as soon as they can. It's fascinating that no media has reported the fact that planeloads of afghans are being dispersed throught the US. Yeah, it shouldn't be hard to wipe out Al Queda here at home...
38 posted on 03/20/2002 1:39:03 PM PST by fredtaps
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To: 1Old Pro
Pentagon backs off after suggesting new evidence of link between Somalia and al-Qaida -AP Breaking News
ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
(03-20) 14:27 PST WASHINGTON (AP) -- It sounded sinister at first. The Pentagon announced new evidence of a possible link between the al-Qaida terrorist network and Somalia. Within minutes the story began to unravel. The Pentagon...
39 posted on 03/20/2002 1:39:43 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Henchster
It just burns my heart to think that we lost fine men like these because Clinton was unwilling to "Allocate Assets" because

...the tanks were needed in Waco.

40 posted on 03/20/2002 1:41:13 PM PST by Freee-dame
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