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SEX OFFENDER PROFILES: (Westerfield and the van Dam case!)
Missing Kids.com ^ | March 22, 2002 | MK.COM

Posted on 03/22/2002 9:04:21 AM PST by FresnoDA

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To: My Identity
Characteristic of the Sociopathic Personality:

Are you talking about van Dam or Bill Clinton??

My vote is Clinton.

Before I scrolled down to replies the first name that came to mind was Bill Clinton.

Fantastic!!

61 posted on 03/22/2002 12:08:55 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: FresnoDA
Oh jeeeeeeeeeez... I dated Mr Sociopathic Personality for over a year. I'm so glad he's out of my life. What a weird scary trip as the light finally turned on and I realized EVERYTHING was a LIE.
62 posted on 03/22/2002 12:15:04 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Joni! Is that you????
63 posted on 03/22/2002 1:10:53 PM PST by Skooz
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To: Skooz
What happens if I say yes?
64 posted on 03/22/2002 1:15:33 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: FresnoDA
So you feel bad you weren't invited? What's your point? We all know by now that these people are about as smart as a bag of hammers but what doe's that have to do with who killed the girl? If they were black I guess we could blame this on slavery with your line of reasoning.
65 posted on 03/22/2002 1:27:14 PM PST by willyone
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To: ValerieUSA
Uuuuhhh....... we would have issues. : 0)
66 posted on 03/22/2002 2:14:50 PM PST by Skooz
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To: SMASH IMPERIALIST LIBERALISM!!
I have seen profiles of sociopaths before, but this one is more extensive than any other I've read. The frightening part is that there's barely a word in this long and complex description that does not fit William Jefferson Clinton to a T. Though a fellow politician in Arkansas had him pegged before he ever slimed his way into the White House. "Clinton would rather climb a tree to tell a lie, than stand on the ground and tell the truth."

Your garden-variety sleazy politician will lie whenever there is advantage to him in lying. That's not much different from the ordinary sleazy citizen. But Clinton was different. He told lies when it wasn't even necessary. He got himself into situations which any normal person would avoid like the plague, to be on the edge, and to lie his way out of it.

How could so many Americans be so dumb for so long as to allow such a defective human being to get anywhere near the Whote House, even on a visitor's pass? p>Congressman Billybob

67 posted on 03/22/2002 2:23:44 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Henrietta
I clicked on the link, and agree with Sturges that these are sites meant to tittilate.

If anyone would know Sturges would, he's into this stuff! This is what he does.

http://www.enature.net/jock.htm This does show a pic of the book cover which is a girl with shirt off.

Amazon.com actually sells this .... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-2447252-7415820

What parent could allow their kid to be oogled as a sex object? No comment, it would take too much bandwith.

If Sturges is involved in it, I'd personally stay away from it. A lot of parents look at life as just accumulation of dollars and unfortunately are setting their little girls up to be exhibitionists who may be easy prey for serious pornographers as they get a little older. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-2447252-7415820

68 posted on 03/22/2002 7:39:57 PM PST by tutstar
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To: hsmomx3
I'm late in responding but agree with your opinion. The VD's are in on it.
69 posted on 03/22/2002 8:00:38 PM PST by homeschool mama
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To: homeschool mama;golitely

Got $484,900? Westerfield's home is for sale

March 23, 2002

David Westerfield's former Sabre Springs home is on the market. The four-bedroom, 21/2-bath house with pool and spa was listed for sale yesterday for $484,900. The house has been transferred to the ownership of the law firms of his two attorneys, Robert Boyce and Steven Feldman. Neither lawyer returned my phone calls yesterday afternoon.

Turnkey Realty has the listing on the house. Its agents will show it only by appointment to pre-approved buyers.

Westerfield gave over ownership to his lawyers on Feb. 26, the day after DA Paul Pfingst announced he would seek a murder charge against him in the abduction and killing of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam, who lived two doors away on Mountain Pass Road.

Tax records show that Westerfield bought the 1,900-square-foot home in July 1996 for $231,500. He financed it with a $208,000 loan and subsequently borrowed money against it.

Upon hearing of the listing, David Pierce, a real estate agent in the Poway area, characterized the asking price as "too high," based on previous sales of houses of the same size in the neighborhood. However, another agent, Calvin Goad, said the current sellers' market is being driven by buyers' desire to beat rising interest rates. "I just had one property (in nearby Peñasquitos) sell in six hours and we raised the price three times," Goad said. Thirteen offers came in within eight hours of the listing, he added.

What will prospective buyers learn about the home's past occupants? The California Association of Realtors' disclosure form asks simply if there has been a death on the property in the last three years – yes or no.


70 posted on 03/23/2002 6:37:35 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: golitely;spectre

Remember this quote by DVD? "but regardless of that, we have still have two wonderful boys to bring up"

(Easy come? Easy Go?)  Strange comment.....

Father goes on search for abducted daughter


YVETTE URREA
Staff Writer

SABRE SPRINGS ---- As the number of search volunteers waned with the start of the workweek, the father of the missing 7-year-old Sabre Springs girl, her uncle and grandfather joined the volunteers searching for the girl in an area near their home Tuesday.

While they searched, San Diego police took a bloodhound through the van Dams' home into the neighborhood looking for clues. San Diego police Capt. Ron Newman later told reporters they had no new information in the case.

Though Danielle's uncle had joined searchers once before, her father and grandfather were going out for the first time Tuesday morning.

Before Tuesday's search efforts began, Danielle's father, Damon van Dam, said he had wanted to participate in the efforts to find Danielle since she vanished from her home Feb. 2, but had been advised by a media liaison not to. He said he was told that he could be more effective doing interviews with media to keep publicizing his daughter's story in hopes that someone who knows what happened to her will come forward.

"(But) I need to be more involved. I'm a hands-on guy. That's why I want to be involved, so I'm not crying all day," he said.

Van Dam and his wife's brother Tom Cope and his wife's father, Tom Cope Sr., arrived at the Laura Recovery Center Foundation on Tuesday just before 10 a.m. and joined three volunteers searching a 25- to 35-mile radius around the family's Mountain Pass home.

The center has had drastically fewer volunteers since Monday because people have returned to their regular jobs, center founder Bob Smither said. The biggest need the center has now is trying to find volunteers to help search.

The family members and three men drove together to an area east of Interstate 15 off Sabre Springs Parkway. They hiked down around a dirt trail around an abandoned fenced-in water pump station.

"I just want to find my daughter," van Dam said.

The men fanned out from the path and trudged through 7-foot-high dried reeds along Los Penasquitos Canyon Creek and dipped walking sticks into the creeks and ponds.

Van Dam got on his stomach to try to look under a small concrete bridge. He climbed up and peered down into a large water tank, and dislodged a manhole cover to check inside. Other searchers looked in pipes and in high brush areas.

Volunteers also looked for areas where the ground was disturbed ---- signs that someone might have gone off the path.

Meanwhile, back at the van Dam family home, investigators took a bloodhound into Danielle's room to pick up her scent. They put a shirt belonging to Danielle on a stick and led the dog to the house next door, but not across the street to where a neighbor, who has been questioned in the case, lives.

Van Dam said he hoped the media would continue to focus on finding Danielle through the weekend.

He said he and his wife, Brenda, have had a hard time sleeping.

"Explaining it to the boys is hard, especially the oldest (son)," Damon van Dam said. "We hope she comes back ... but regardless of that, we have still have two wonderful boys to bring up."

Smither said while most of the members of the Texas-based Laura Recovery Center Foundation people would be leaving today, one person would remain to help guide the local volunteers through Sunday. The center also will remain through Sunday at the Doubletree Golf Resort at 14455 Penasquitos Drive in Carmel Mountain Ranch. The center can be reached at (858) 485-4185.

During the weekend, the goal is to have 600 volunteers, so 30 search parties can be sent out each day, volunteer Bruce Humphrey said. Van Dam said they also will send out some representatives into the desert areas this weekend with fliers and maps asking people if they will take some extra time to search for Danielle.

Van Dam said he plans to be more involved in the search operations and has gotten an overview of the operations, but his first priority is to find his daughter.

Center volunteers said they expect to announce this week that they will open a new operations center in Sabre Springs at Poway and Pomerado roads and select a new manager for the operations for next week.

On Monday, the family offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to the capture and conviction of anyone responsible for Danielle's abduction. A San Diego bail bondsman, George "King" Stahlman, also offered a $50,000 reward on top of the van Dams' reward.

Today, Pat and Oscar's restaurant at 12045 Carmel Mountain Road will be holding a fund-raiser from 5 to 9 p.m., and 15 percent of proceeds will go toward the search effort for Danielle. To participate, people need to bring in one of the fliers that can be downloaded from www.daniellemissing.com.

Pink and purple ribbons will be sold for $1 at the Poway Wal-Mart, 13425 Community Road, through the end of the week. All proceeds will go toward a fund for Danielle, Wal-Mart spokeswoman April Papalio said.

A van Dam family friend, Bill Libby, who has managed the family's Danielle fund, said they have $1,600 in the fund as of Monday afternoon. That money will eventually be used for search and recovery efforts, but none has been spent yet, Libby said.

staff writer Yvette Urrea
2/13/02

71 posted on 03/23/2002 6:51:38 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Neither Hell nor High water would have kept either me or my husband from participating in the search of a child of ours that was missing. Hiring a PR firm in lieu of a PI team is just pain weird.

Handing out refreshments and wearing pink and purple ribbons isn't a real picture of a frantic family in search of their daughter.

Of course, in Damon's self-defense, he DID ask a neighbor if he'd seen Danielle that morning, because she was known to "sleep-walk"...(sarcasm mode off)

sw

72 posted on 03/23/2002 7:15:00 AM PST by spectre
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To: FresnoDA
So he is selling his house? I should think so. Even if found innocent, he could never be comfortable there again.

As for "disclosure", I'm just guessing here, but the owner's name "David Westerfield" is all anyone who wants to buy the house needs to know...they can imagine anything they want from name recognition alone.

sw

73 posted on 03/23/2002 7:21:27 AM PST by spectre
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To: FresnoDA;spectre
On Monday, the family offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to the capture and conviction of anyone responsible for Danielle's abduction. A San Diego bail bondsman, George "King" Stahlman, also offered a $50,000 reward on top of the van Dams' reward.

The little girl has been missing for eight/nine days, and they're offering a reward for information leading to the capture and conviction of her abductor? Huh? At this stage, would it not be more normal to offer a reward for information leading to finding Danielle herself? Hoping she is still alive, or at least wanting to know whether she is alive? Once a body is found, then I can see offering this type of reward, or after it has been a very long time and the child is presumed dead.

Or maybe it is common to offer this type of reward so early in such a case? Does anyone know of other missing child cases where such has been done?

I don't know. Seems to me, at that stage, parents would just want to get her back or at least know what happened to her, and would worry about who did it and that "who" getting punished for it later.

74 posted on 03/23/2002 7:34:40 AM PST by wonders
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To: wonders
It was their sign that read "DANIELLE COME HOME", which to me, left open the possibility that they were going to say she "may have run away from home", IF they hadn't arrested Westerfield in the abduction..Got to have a back-up plan.

sw

75 posted on 03/23/2002 8:18:02 AM PST by spectre
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To: spectre
"Hiring a PR firm in lieu of a PI team is just pain weird."

Unless he already knew what had happened. That, in my estimation, would be the only reason to go for the PR instead of the PI.

76 posted on 03/23/2002 8:41:57 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
".or maybe he's a contact for pedophiles.."

Of all the boneheaded statements I've seen here--and Heaven knows I've seen 'em--this one takes the cake. A guy who puts up reward money for the return of missing children is a pedophile? This is so monumentally stupid, I don't know whether to laugh, or to cry. Good grief.

77 posted on 03/23/2002 8:54:01 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
Very, very, early on-- I sometimes think it was the minute they found her not in her bed, if not before-- the Van Dams started referring to her in the past tense, started speaking of "her abductor" and "whoever did this" and otherwise stating that they were crime victims--and saying, "well, we have two wonderful boys to bring up" as you say, before the girl was hardly out of the House!

How did Damon KNOW that "something awful happened in that (Danielle's) ROOM?" [as opposed to somewhere else in usual abduction/molestation scenario]... How, in effect, did they already know for sure as revealed by their speech patterns, that Danielle was dead and not coming back, long before the sun had set on Feb. 2?

IMHO One or both of these parents had seen her dead, or received certain information to that effect from someone they j w knew to be right--before they ever reported her missing.

See percentages posted earlier on this and other threads.

78 posted on 03/23/2002 9:00:22 AM PST by crystalk
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Ahhh - here you all are. The link in the old thread didn't work for me - I finally looked for it on my own.

Kim - could you pretty please add me to your ping list. :^)

79 posted on 03/23/2002 9:42:39 AM PST by mommya
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To: FresnoDA
Opportunity crime and jurisdiction violation. Ask a liberal to have their naked pictures taken for free and then sold to your own profit, they will scream capitalist exploitative murder. Now ask them if it is ok for children to be exploited, they will tell you yes.
80 posted on 03/23/2002 9:45:10 AM PST by lavaroise
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