Sing Sing guard gets year in jail for killing 5 kittens

News Radio 88 ^ | 3/22/02

[Sangamon Kid]

an Indiana grad

What a great win for you guys last night!! Tell you what, Big Ten blood is thicker than water. Go Big Ten! Go Hoosiers! Go Illini!

[Aliska]

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deely buried from view), consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy: animals."

Do you know who said that?

I wish there had been something like that in the bible. The only reference in scripture I can think of was rescuing an ox in a ditch on Sunday (and that seemed more because the animal was a valuable working animal) and in the OT about not cutting their hindlegs, or muzzling an ox from eating while it was working a wheel.

[#3Fan]

Right! I agree! Only profitable tortue should be allowed!

God gave some animals to be sacrificed for our dietary benefit. We don't crush cows to death. Crushing cats is useless torture. Out society is smart enough to know the difference between slaughtering a cow, killing rats, and torturing cats.

[triplejake]

After so many years of 1st and 2nd round losses, I couldn't believe my eyes last night. While I supported him many years, I am happy to see that the Knight era is well and truly over with this victory. Go Big 10! And (to get back on topic) lock up the kitten killers!

[Temple Owl]

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[Lurking Libertarian]

There are a few other OT laws (not taking eggs from a nest while the mother bird is watching, etc.).From the totality of these specific rules, the Talmud deduced the general principle that tza'ar ba'aley chayim, causing pain to living creatures, is a sin.

[Sangamon Kid]

I wish there had been something like that in the bible.

Maybe God make a mistake and should have consulted you beforehand.

[Aliska]

My mother got a shovel, went over to the cats and bashed all their heads in and then buried them. Now, I suppose you will tell me that she should have gone to jail for her actions. BS!

That is shocking. My agnostic father beat my b*** for stomping on a can of worms I had collected. The priest told me that wasn't a sin but I am still saddened by my behavior. I would never do that again.

Why is it that in Catholic countries, animals are so cruelly treated? I heard of some instances in Spain where the priest was on hand while they dropped some animal from a high place for sport during some festivities. Also I saw a movie where they hanged a goose upside down and men on horses whizzed by and tried to cut off its head.

If I had to witness something like that it would make me ill and I would have to get out of there.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

The children played with the kitten and they all got ringworm. My mother got a shovel, went over to the cats and bashed all their heads in and then buried them. Now, I suppose you will tell me that she should have gone to jail for her actions. BS!

How about we change the parameters a bit so it is in line with the case that we are discussing. Let's see how your story looks with a little tweeking, shall we:

The neighbors children, whom my mother was babysitting, played with the kittens they were taking care of in the barn. My mother got a shovel, went over to the cats and bashed all their heads in and then buried them. Now, I suppose you will tell me that she should have gone to jail for her actions.

If that were the case, yes. The kittens were not causing a health risk like the kittens in your mother's story. The prisoner was a ward of the State, not the guard, unlike the children in your mother's story. The guard killed the kittens because it would hurt the prisoner, not to protect him like your mother did.

Justice is the appropriate reward for action. In this case, the guard chose to act in a cruel and destructive manner with great malice and calleousness. A one year prison sentence is a just reward.

Andrea Yates got life in prison for killing her 5 children, so the arguement that we view animal life as more important than human life doesn't wash. (With the exception of abortion, which will be judged justly one day if we perservere and keep focus on that horrible slaughter.)

[Aliska]

Cruelty to animals is (now) a sin according to the Catechism of the Catholic church. I'll look it up here . . .

I can't find it but I was sure it was in there somewhere.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

If you were talking to a bunch of pro-baby killing tree-huggers, you would have a HUGE point, but the vast majority of Freepers are pro-life and still find this reprehensible. Abortion can be horribly wrong in a person's mind, and they can still find room to find this to be horribly wrong. Why does the death of a human child have to diminish the senseless killing of kittens by a sadist bent on harming another person?

[MississippiMan]

Technically he should be charged for theft of another's property.

Realistically he behaved more like an animal than a human and I think he got off light. I'm ashamed that I share humanity with such people.

MM

[Sangamon Kid]

God gave some animals children to be sacrificed for our dietary hedonistic benefit. We don't crush cows to death. Crushing cats is useless torture. Out society is smart enough to know the difference between slaughtering a cow, killing rats, and torturing cats and yet not smart enough to know that there is no difference between butchering of children in the womb and the butchering of children on the street?

I love playing word games, don't you?

[Aliska]

Maybe God make a mistake and should have consulted you beforehand.

I wish there had been something like that in the bible.

Just kidding.

[Aliska]

From the totality of these specific rules, the Talmud deduced the general principle that tza'ar ba'aley chayim, causing pain to living creatures, is a sin.

Good.

[Sangamon Kid]

Tell you what. Let's make a deal. I'll press for harsher sentences for cat killers, if you for press harsher sentences for baby killers. When people get worked up over the 40,000,00 innocent AMERICAN human lives lost since 1973, then I'll think about getting worked up over dead kittens.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

It doesn't diminish it, and more importantly for this response, no one says it does!

What is being said, however, is that by thinking this is a horrible action we somehow miss how horrible abortion is. We don't! We think this is horrible and abortion is even worse. No one has said the contrary and no one has said that abortion isn't worse.

[ladylib]

The stupid bastard actually ordered the inmate to put the cats in the compactor. I hope he enjoys himeself in jail.