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Learn the Facts about Hunting
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Posted on 04/08/2002 4:23:46 PM PDT by Sungirl

Fall is the time when forest greens begin to blaze orange, as hunting seasons open around the country. Each year, hunters kill more than 100 million animals, and while individual reasons for hunting vary, the industry that promotes and sustains hunting has just one motive: profit. According to the International Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, America's 14 million hunters spend $22.1 billion each year for guns, ammunition, clothing, travel, and other related expenses.

To justify hunting to a society ever more concerned about wildlife—including its conservation and humane treatment—the industry intensively promotes a set of tired myths. Learn the facts behind these myths.

Isn't hunting a worthy tradition because it teaches people about nature?

There are many ways to learn about nature and the "great outdoors." At its best, hunting teaches people that it is acceptable to kill wildlife while learning about some aspects of nature. However, the very essence of sport hunting is the implicit message that it's acceptable recreation to kill and to tolerate the maiming of wildlife. Even those who claim that wounding and maiming is not the intent of hunting cannot deny that it happens.

It is folly to suggest that we can teach love, respect, and appreciation for nature and the environment through such needless destruction of wildlife. One can learn about nature by venturing into the woods with binoculars, a camera, a walking stick, or simply with our eyes and ears open to the world around us.

Does hunting help create a bond between father and son? We do not know, but there are countless recreational and other activities that can strengthen the parent/child bond. Generally speaking, bonding has less to do with the activity and more to do with whether the parent and child spend significant, concentrated, and loving time together. Yet the particular recreational activity is also important, because it can send a moral message to the child about what constitutes acceptable recreation.

Hunting as a form of family entertainment is destructive not only to the animals involved, but also to the morals and ethics of children who are shown or taught that needless killing is acceptable recreation. The HSUS rejects the notion that a relationship of love and companionship should be based on the needless killing of innocent creatures. Killing for fun teaches callousness, disrespect for life, and the notion that "might makes right."

Isn't hunting a popular and growing form of recreation?

No. The number of hunters has been steadily declining for decades. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, there were 15 million licensed hunters in the U.S. in 2000, compared with 15.6 million in 1993, 15.8 million in 1990, and 16.3 million in 1980. This drop has occurred even while the general population has been growing. Currently only 5.4% of Americans hold hunting licenses. Hunters claim their numbers are growing to give the impression that recreational killing is acceptable. The facts are that more and more hunters are giving up hunting because it is no longer a socially acceptable activity.

Isn't it more humane to kill wildlife by hunting than to allow animals to starve?

This question is based on a false premise. Hunters kill opossums, squirrels, ravens, and numerous other plentiful species without any notion of shooting them so that they do not starve or freeze to death. Many species are killed year round in unlimited numbers. In addition, many animals that are not hunted die of natural starvation, but hunters do not suggest killing them. While it is true that any animal killed by a hunter cannot die of starvation, hunters do not kill animals based on which ones are weak and likely to succumb to starvation. Hunters who claim they prevent animals from suffering starvation are simply trying to divert attention from an analysis of the propriety of killing wildlife for fun.

Aren't most hunts to limit overpopulation and not truly for recreation?

No. Most hunted species are not considered to be overpopulated even by the wildlife agencies that set seasons and bag limits. Black ducks, for instance, face continued legal hunting—even on National Wildlife Refuges—despite the fact that their populations are at or near all-time lows. If hunters claim that they hunt to prevent overpopulation, then they should be prepared to forgo hunting except when it really is necessary to manage overpopulated species. This would mean no hunting of doves, ducks, geese, raccoons, bears, cougars, turkeys, quail, chuckar, pheasants, rabbits, squirrels, and many other species.

What's more, hunters are usually the first to protest when wolves, coyotes, and other predators move into an area and begin to take over the job of controlling game populations. The State of Alaska, for example, has instituted wolf-control (trapping and shooting) on the grounds that wolf predation may bring caribou populations down to a level that would limit the sport-hunting of caribou. Finally, hunters kill opossums, foxes, ravens, and numerous other plentiful species without the pretension of shooting them so that they do not starve or freeze to death.

Is hunting to prevent wildlife overpopulation usually effective?

No. Wildlife, to a large degree, will naturally regulate its own populations if permitted, eliminating any need for hunting as a means of population control. Discussions about supposed wildlife overpopulation problems apply primarily to deer. Hunters often claim that hunting is necessary to control deer populations. As practiced, however, hunting often contributes to the growth of deer herds. Heavily hunted states like Pennsylvania and Ohio, for instance, are among those experiencing higher deer densities than perhaps ever before. When an area's deer population is reduced by hunting, the remaining animals respond by having more young, which survive because the competition for food and habitat is reduced. Since one buck can impregnate many does, policies which permit the killing of bucks contribute to high deer populations. If population control were the primary purpose for conducting deer hunts, hunters would only be permitted to kill does. This is not the case, however, because hunters demand that they be allowed to kill bucks for their antlers.

Does hunting ensure stable, healthy wildlife populations?

No. The hunting community's idea of a "healthy" wildlife population is a population managed like domestic livestock, for maximum productivity. In heavily hunted and "managed" populations, young animals feed on artificially enhanced food sources, grow and reproduce rapidly, then fall quickly to the guns and arrows of hunters. Few animals achieve full adulthood. After 20 years of heavy deer hunting at the Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge in New Jersey, for example, only one percent of the deer population lived longer than four years, and fewer than ten percent lived longer than three years. In a naturally regulated population, deer often live twelve years or longer.

What are state wildlife agencies doing to maintain interest in hunting?

Most states actively recruit children into hunting, through special youth hunts. Sometimes these youth hunts are held on National Wildlife Refuges. Some states have carried this concept even further, and hold special hunter education classes to recruit parents and their children. In addition to encouraging children to buy licenses and kill animals, the states are reaching out to women as well. If enough women and children can be converted into hunters, the state agencies can continue business as usual.

Isn't hunting a well-regulated activity?

No. While there are many rules which regulate hunting activities, enforcing the regulations is difficult, and many hunters do not abide by the rules. It has been estimated that twice as many deer are killed illegally as are killed legally. Hunters will sometimes kill a second deer because it has bigger antlers or "rack" than the first. In addition, duck hunters often exceed their bag limits or kill protected species because most hunters cannot identify the species of ducks that they shoot—especially not at a half hour before sunrise, when shooting begins. Secret observations revealed by ex-duck hunters demonstrate that illegal practices and killing permeate this activity at all levels.

Aren't animals protected through "bag limits" imposed by each state?

Those species favored by hunters are given certain protection from over-killing—killing so many as to severely limit the population—through what are known as "bag limits." However, hunting of some species is completely unregulated, and in fact, wanton killing is encouraged. Animals such as skunks, coyotes, porcupines, crows and prairie dogs are considered "varmints," and unlimited hunting of these species is permitted year-round in many states. At the base of this is the notion that these animals are simply "vermin" and do not deserve to live. Hunters frequently write and speak of the pleasure in "misting" prairie dogs—by which they mean shooting the animals with hollow-point bullets that cause them to literally explode in a mist of blood.

Moreover, hunters' influence on state and federal wildlife agencies is so strong that even bag limits on "game" species are influenced as much by politics as by biology. Many states, with the sanction of the federal government, allow hunters to kill large numbers (20–40 per day) of coots and waterfowl such as sea ducks and mergansers, for example, despite the fact that little is known about their populations and their ability to withstand hunting pressure, and the fact that these ducks are certainly not killed for food. This killing is encouraged to maintain hunter interest, thereby sustaining license sales, because the decline in other duck species has resulted in some limitations on numbers that can be killed.

Though hunting clearly kills individual animals, can hunting actually hurt wildlife populations?

Yes. Hunters continue to kill many species of birds and mammals (e.g., cougars, wolves, black ducks, swans) that are at dangerously low population levels. While hunting may not be the prime cause of the decline of these species, it must contribute to their decline and, at a minimum, frustrate efforts to restore them.

Even deer populations may be damaged by hunting pressure. Unlike natural predators and the forces of natural selection, hunters do not target the weaker individuals in populations of deer or other animals.

Rather, deer hunters seek out the bucks that have the largest rack. This desire for "trophy sized" bucks can and has had detrimental effects on the health of deer herds. First, hunting can impact the social structure of a herd because hunters kill the mature males of a herd and create a disproportionate ratio of females to males. It is not uncommon to find a herd that has no bucks over the age of three. Second, genetically inferior bucks may be left to propagate the species, thereby weakening the overall health of the herd.

Because hunters largely want to shoot only bucks, hunting may cause artificial inflation of deer populations. When these populations reach levels that available habitat cannot support, increased disease and starvation may be the result.

We don't understand the full effect of hunting on wildlife behavior or health because wildlife agencies will not conduct the studies necessary to find the answers (e.g., "spy-blind" observations of duck hunting, in which undercover authorities secretly observe hunters).

Is hunting for food a good way to save money on grocery bills?

Almost never. When all costs are considered (i.e., license fees, equipment, food, lodging and transportation), hunting is not an economical way to provide food. Statistics gathered by the University of Maryland's Extension Service revealed that hunters spent more than $51 million to kill 46,317 deer in Maryland in 1990, approximately $1,100 for each deer killed. Assuming that the meat of each deer killed was preserved and eaten, and that each deer provided 45 lbs. of meat, the cost of venison in 1990 in Maryland was $24.44 per pound. For most hunted animals, such as ducks, doves, rabbits, squirrels, and crows, among others, use for food is now minimal, and the expense of equipment far outweighs the value of any food that is obtained. For the vast majority of hunters, hunting is recreation, not a means of gathering food.


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Hunting

There once was a time when most Americans needed to hunt to put food on the table, but hunting today is a recreational pastime, and worse: waterfowl, pheasant, and dove hunting are no more than shooting at living targets. Some hunting is done solely to acquire trophies or to see who can kill the most; some is no more than shooting tame, confined animals. Brutally inhumane weapons such as the bow and arrow are increasingly used. In all cases, sport hunting inflicts undeniable cruelty—pain, trauma, wounding, and death—on living, sentient creatures. The Humane Society of the United States believes that causing suffering and death is by definition inhumane, regardless of method.

More than 100 million animals are reported killed by hunters each year. That number does not include the millions of animals for which kill figures are not maintained by state wildlife agencies.

The vast majority of species that are hunted—waterfowl, upland birds, mourning doves, squirrels, raccoons, rabbits, crows, coyotes, etc.—provide minimal sustenance and do not require population control.

Hunters have strived for decades to convince the American public that hunting is good for wildlife and good for society, often with arguments that are based on obfuscation and half-truths. They have deliberately focused the debate on deer hunting, for which plausible, but not necessarily true, arguments for subsistence and management can be made. But the holes in their arguments are becoming increasingly apparent, as is the magnitude of their waste, cruelty and destruction. More than that, sport hunting—the killing of wild animals as recreation—is fundamentally at odds with the values of a humane, just and caring society.

Copyright © 2002 The Humane Society of the United States. All rights reserved.

1 posted on 04/08/2002 4:23:46 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
Too much BS to answer now. HSUS is basically PETA in a suit.
2 posted on 04/08/2002 4:25:23 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Sungirl
There once was a time when most Americans needed to hunt to put food on the table, but hunting today is a recreational pastime, and worse: waterfowl, pheasant, and dove hunting are no more than shooting at living targets. Some hunting is done solely to acquire trophies or to see who can kill the most; some is no more than shooting tame, confined animals.

You presume much...but then...that's what always impressed me about you...self absorbtion.

3 posted on 04/08/2002 4:31:20 PM PDT by Woahhs
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To: Sungirl
The huge number of lies in this article would take hours to rebut. I know, as I spend literally hours rebutting this nonsense every month in the hunter education class I teach.
4 posted on 04/08/2002 4:32:12 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: Sungirl
More sick progaganda ,it's what one expects from your type.

Perhaps the day will come(and perhaps soon) when your so convienient packaged food is not available to you and you will have to fish and hunt just to survive.

Til then, you can have my venison when you pry it from my cold dead jaws.

5 posted on 04/08/2002 4:33:24 PM PDT by tet68
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To: ctdonath2,Tennessee_Bob,Hot SOup,Gianni,Gun142
I saved this when I found it posted by another member...I like it:

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earthand over all the creatures that move along the ground."

RULE = KILL??
I looked RULE up in the dictionary and couldn't find the rule KILL FOR PLEASURE anywhere in the definition. Someone on another thread wrote this and I think it would do you some good to read it:

Someone elses response:

Let's have a Bible lesson shall we? God emphatically states that he never wanted animal sacrifices. That was in The Law of the first covenant that the people asked for themselves and then found that the Law did not work and was impossible to keep. God wants a humble and contrite spirit, a broken-heart,repentance for sins in the MIND as sacrifice. That is what Jesus taught--regeneration of the human heart, not dead goats. Jesus was the perfect sin-sacrifice, abolishing animal killings in the temple, and dying to cover the sins of all who believe in Him.

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Mark17:

would you break the law to save this dog?

A dog, no. A human being, yes.

THanks...you also prove the compassion of a hunter. What if this dog were a seeing eye dog of a priest? Would you break the law? LOL!!

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To: Gianni:

Look...SCOPES!





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Cougars to Be Killed as Part of "Studies"
This is real nice too....

6 posted on 04/08/2002 4:35:38 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
I can't resist just one example of the lies the HSUS writes above:

The vast majority of species that are hunted—waterfowl, upland birds, mourning doves, squirrels, raccoons, rabbits, crows, coyotes, etc.—provide minimal sustenance and do not require population control.

See this link describing the need for an extra season to control the destruction overpopulation of snow geese.

The HSUS is a fraudulent organization that has been capitalizing on the good will people have for local humane societies to present its rabid, anti-human, radical agenda.

7 posted on 04/08/2002 4:37:35 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: Sungirl
Give me about 5 hours and I can put out a 15 page paper ripping this thing apart.

I'll just say this. People have been meat eaters for thousands of years. It is part of nature. Those against hunting becuase food can be 'at the stores' are hypocrites.

If you don't like hunting, don't hunt. I'm a hunter. I didn't get anything last year. I don't care. I saw two bears, an eagle, several pilelated woodpeckers, deer, and other animals. I enjoyed the time hunting with family as well. And I'll be back this year as well. :)

8 posted on 04/08/2002 4:37:36 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Sungirl

9 posted on 04/08/2002 4:37:50 PM PDT by aomagrat
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To: Dan from Michigan
And BTW - I've personally seen some of the letters and death threats the animal rights crowd sent state rep Sue Tabor. Real peaceful people.....
10 posted on 04/08/2002 4:39:48 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Sungirl
I looked RULE up in the dictionary and couldn't find the rule KILL FOR PLEASURE anywhere in the definition.

You should try looking up solipsism...it would do you much more good.

11 posted on 04/08/2002 4:43:51 PM PDT by Woahhs
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To: Dan from Michigan
Doris Day and Bob Barker are big animal supporters. SOmehow I can't see Doris and Bob sending out death threats.
12 posted on 04/08/2002 4:44:28 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
...the industry that promotes and sustains hunting has just one motive: profit.

I'm no hunter and see no real attraction in the endeavor, but the motive of every industry is profit. I'm presuming that the rest of the artcle is as bad as this sentence.

13 posted on 04/08/2002 4:44:47 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Sungirl
Then you don't know your cohorts for the PETA ilk are a violent bunch. PETA has been caught funding terrorism.

For the rest, here are some links to the strange bedfellows that HSUS and PETA keep:

ActivistCash website

ConsumerFreedom website

These people have done a lot of research on the links between these dangerous radicals.

14 posted on 04/08/2002 4:46:57 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: Sungirl
Part of me tells me to be extremely rude to you right now, but I shall think of you as a misguided child and be considerate of you. I hunt, therefore I am nature.(BTW I am a pagan) To make a kill of an animal in a well mangaged game area is to feel both triumph and tragedy of life not the stale lifelessness of socialism as so prevelant amongst you "moralists." Also in the past year I have taken an Elk, Whitetail Deer and an Antlope and I am using all of them to the fullest degree for food and clothing.
15 posted on 04/08/2002 4:47:31 PM PDT by junta
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To: DallasMike
It's all about the profit that HSUS and others can get from gullable folks like SG.
16 posted on 04/08/2002 4:48:36 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Sungirl
Sungirl: Trolling for flames.

"Learn the Facts about Hunting" ?

You wouldn't know facts if they bit you on the rear end. Must be another stay-at-home do-nothing night.

17 posted on 04/08/2002 4:49:19 PM PDT by Osinski
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the industry that promotes and sustains hunting has just one motive: profit.

The horror! You mean that there's an INDUSTRY that is solely motivated by profit! Unthinkable!

What's next? People going to work not because they enjoy the office lifestyle, but because they want - I struggle to even say it- to get a paycheck?

18 posted on 04/08/2002 4:50:32 PM PDT by timm22
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To: DallasMike
I'm no hunter and see no real attraction in the endeavor, but the motive of every industry is profit. I'm presuming that the rest of the artcle is as bad as this sentence.

Yeah...like the ripples of self-congratulation felt by the animal rights crowd are somehow superior to profits because it can't be quanitified.

19 posted on 04/08/2002 4:51:15 PM PDT by Woahhs
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To: junta
Just had antelope for my first time this year. Fantastic meat.
20 posted on 04/08/2002 4:51:30 PM PDT by Osinski
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