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Gun Training Class Offered to Abused Women
The Oregonian ^ | Apr. 12, 2002 | Robin Franzen

Posted on 04/12/2002 3:19:05 PM PDT by Tuba-Dude

In what appears to be a national first, a Portland gun group is offering free handgun training to any battered woman who wants it -- a defensive strike against homicidal men and what it sees as a growing push for gun control in Oregon.

Thomas "Lee" Anderson, a former community college philosophy professor who founded the Portland Firearms Training Team, says at least a half-dozen women have signed up for the daylong class, designed to teach even a tiny woman with shaking hands to take down her attacker at close range.

It's an idea that gets a big thumbs up from the National Rifle Association and the Second Amendment Sisters, a national organization formed in 1999 to promote gun self-defense for women.

"Like it or not, a firearm is the great equalizer," Anderson said. "A 90-pound woman can defend herself against a 300-pound (man)."

But critics, armed with an arsenal of research challenging Anderson's arsenal of research, call the offer everything from ill-considered to downright dangerous.

They also warn that a woman risks being prosecuted for murder if she kills her abuser without meeting the statutory requirements for justifiable homicide.

"From a public health perspective, that's certainly not the message I would want to send," said Nancy Glass, a professor in the School of Nursing at Oregon Health & Science University who has researched intimate partner homicide. "In my view, arming people is a very short-sighted response to a public health crisis."

The debate comes in response to an examination by The Oregonian exposing flaws in systems designed to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers. The story revealed gaps in restraining order procedures, federal prosecutions and the gun background check process and showed confusion about if and when police can seize an abuser's gun.

The story also found that in the past decade, roughly 100 Oregon women were killed by current or former partners using guns, a tally roughly on par with gang-and drug-related gun homicides.

Although some public officials are taking steps to address the issues, Anderson and others reject the findings, viewing them as the work of the gun-control agenda. Instead, they assert that the real solution is to give abused women the hardware and training to protect themselves -- as Anderson puts it, to bring out the "woman warrior."

"For years, our public officials have counseled women to obtain restraining orders and dial 9-1-1 in an emergency," Anderson, an NRA-certified instructor, said in a statement. "These choices have not worked. Violent crazed attackers do not obey laws, and it is nuts to think we need more gun control."

To counter what they consider a missing piece in the public discussion, Anderson's group plans to offer abused women a free four-hour beginner's pistol class, which ordinarily costs $35. It covers instruction on safe handling and storage of firearms, ethical and legal ramifications of gun use and an hour on the shooting range.

Students who pass get a certificate that can be used to satisfy educational requirements for a concealed handgun license, which Anderson strongly advises them to get.

Women also will be offered an NRA general self-defense class called "Refuse to Be a Victim," which is tailored to those who aren't ready to use a firearm or whose level of personal threat doesn't warrant firearms use. Together, the training will take eight to 10 hours.

We can teach a woman to be accurate at a defensive distance" -- within 7 yards or less, Anderson said. He advises women to keep the gun on them at all times, in a pocket or holster, so it's available but out of children's reach. Firing the gun will be presented as a last resort -- only if the woman's life or another person's is in immediate, unavoidable danger, he said.

There's little research about whether arming abused women increases safety. But there are voluminous studies about gun self-defense and the general population -- virtually all of it the subject of heated debate. Anderson and other gun advocates like the work of Gary Kleck, a criminology professor at Florida State University. In one widely quoted report, he estimates that law-abiding Americans use guns in self-defense 2.5 million times a year.

"If you have a woman who is willing to point the weapon in a threatening manner, I'd say, yes, (training for battered women) is a good idea," Kleck said Wednesday. "It's something a woman can do as well as a man -- it doesn't take physical strength."

But advocates working to reduce firearms deaths at the Washington, D.C.,-based Violence Policy Center bristle at the suggestion that increased gun ownership is an appropriate response to violence. They contend that for every time a woman used a handgun to kill an intimate acquaintance in self-defense in 1998, another 83 women were killed by an intimate acquaintance with a handgun.

Other skeptics say it's impractical for a woman to keep a gun with her at all times, raising safety concerns for children. They also question whether a day's training is sufficient and worry that guns in the hands of women under severe stress can place innocent bystanders in jeopardy.

"In my reading of the literature, it's hard to use a gun appropriately at the right time and not at the wrong time," said gun-injury researcher David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. "Even police officers who have lots of training can use their guns at the wrong time."

"More guns in these types of situations is flat-out dangerous," said Stacy Heyworth, head of the Multnomah County district attorney's domestic violence unit, pointing out that women's guns can be used against them. "I'm saying that because of my concern for the man and the woman."

All the same, Lisanne Dickenson, 36, of Eugene -- who was in an abusive relationship for 21/2 years -- likes her gun, a .32 Kel-Tec so tiny it fits in her front pocket. She got it for protection once her abuser was no longer in the picture.

"Women are traditionally afraid of guns, and they are scary when you don't know about them," she said. "But abusers are scarier. You can learn to control a firearm, you can learn to be good with them, but an abuser isn't controllable."

Now happily married, Dickenson has spent countless hours practicing at firing ranges, is studying to become a trainer for the Portland Firearms Training Team and considers armed self-defense an important option for her sex. The oldest of her three daughters is already learning to shoot.

"There are some women I wouldn't trust with a gun," she said, conceding that she might not have trusted herself back in the days of her abuse. "If I'm giving a class, and I don't think she's ready, I'm not going to pass her -- that's my responsibility."

Chiquita Rollins, coordinator of domestic violence programs for Multnomah County, considers gun ownership a personal choice -- one that probably only makes sense for what she thinks is the small percentage of women who are emotionally prepared to kill.

"Most women don't want to kill their abuser -- they want him to go away," she said. "Arming every battered woman isn't going to solve the problem."

For more information about the Portland Firearms Training Team, contact John McEnroe at 503-232-6918 or photo@hevanet.com.

Reporter Robin Franzen can be reached at 503-221-8133 or robinfranzen@news.oregonian.com.


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KEYWORDS: abuse; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; training
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To: Squantos
Oh no, the curse of the net strikes again!

Mr. Squantos, I've read many of your posts before and have always found you to be very interesting and very informative. Please, please, PLEASE be assured I took no offense from your "best gun for a woman" question - really. I typed the entire answer in a very good-natured manner (well, except for the titanium part...), and if we'd been sitting somewhere having the conversation it would have been obvious that I was in no way insulted. Sometimes I forget that people here can't see or hear me, and I apologize for any misunderstandings. All's well here, believe me. ;-)

That said, I can tell you that SAS hasn't done any kind of surveys about women and their gun of choice, but it would be an interesting thing to find out. It would be a good starting point for making a few recommendations, but personally I really hesitate to do that, because that's like telling people, "buy this or buy that." I think you have to learn what guns are all about and then go shopping with the knowledge in place. That's how you find the best gun for you, IMHO.

My everyday, 24/7 pistola , again for me, is a 1911A1 as that is what I have carried , trained and competed with most of my career and is memory-matic for the expected stress of self defense mode.

I love the 1911's, but most of them are just too big for me. Two-handed I'm fine, one-handed I'm in trouble. I guess I'll just have to settle... LOL...

Take good care, and again, no hard feelings here.

41 posted on 04/13/2002 12:13:09 PM PDT by dbwz
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To: Tuba-Dude
Sweet mother of all that is sacred...A PRO-2nd AMENDMENT GROUP IN OREGON!

There are a LOT of pro-gun folks in Portland. I lived there for 8 years, ending in 1996. And yes, it's a "shall issue" state.

It's also a very liberal state, in a lot of ways, but somehow the gun people have kept that part right.

42 posted on 04/13/2002 8:42:03 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: sarasmom
I would guess they still stress that if you have not made the decision to shoot to kill in self defense, you may as well throw the gun away

Whether they stress it in the courses or not - and they should - it's still a very important part of the equation. That decision has to be made UP FRONT, not during a moment of crisis.

43 posted on 04/13/2002 8:45:20 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: SSN558
You are going through a nasty divorce. The lawyers have turned what is normally and unpleasant situtation into a down right ugly one. Things being what they are some name calling has occurred. This would be called motive. Then someone shows up at someone elses front door at a strange hour. Who knows they might have had a change of heart and decided to try apoligizing and reach into the coat for a card or flowers. Of course you have bought a gun the week before and taken some gun training after the lawyers filled your head with paranoid thoughts. You brandish the gun and it is not self defense, bummer go to jail. Or even worse, someone gets shot. Now there is a good case for premeditation. You are screwed.

I think that you have been watching too much TV for you to consider this happening in real life.

Read the article. The classes teach the ethical and legal ramifications of using firearms.

44 posted on 04/13/2002 10:21:51 PM PDT by Jason Gade
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To: Tuba-Dude
The local TV stations take on this has been making me really angry. They claim that pro-gun groups are "arming women" or arming victims of domestic abuse. This does not "arm" women. It is up to the individual woman to arm herself. What these classes do is teach the women how to defend themselves with a firearm and the legal ramifications for doing so.
45 posted on 04/13/2002 10:27:13 PM PDT by Jason Gade
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To: Tuba-Dude
"More guns in these types of situations is flat-out dangerous," said Stacy Heyworth, head of the Multnomah County district attorney's domestic violence unit.. She further added, "What is wrong with the old-fashioned tried and trued method of burning your spouse with gasoline - guns will only lead to a tradjedy".
46 posted on 04/15/2002 4:26:50 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Tuba-Dude
WOW! I am pleasantly surprised by this!
It is long past time that this subject is taken seriously by someone besides the victim!
Now these coward men will think twice before showing up tormenting a rootin' tootin' gun totin' female!
47 posted on 04/15/2002 8:21:29 PM PDT by ladyinred
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