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The Pro Porn Court?
WYLL.com, NEWSMAX.com, RFMNews.com, FederalObserver.com ^ | 4.17.2002 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 04/17/2002 8:45:48 AM PDT by KMC1

Be afraid, be very very afraid. Last night on Fox News Channel on Brit Hume's Special Report, Brian Wilson reported on the comparison between the new TV show that mimics the Supreme Court and the actual Supreme Court as they both ruled on cases dealing with "virtual child pornography". The TV version voted 7 to 2 in the same direction that the actual Supreme Court voted (6 to 3). It would have been 7 to 2 in the actual had Sandra Day O'Connor taken a little more of her medication that morning.

In Ashcroft vs. Free Speech Coalition (a pornography trade, lobbying, and activist group), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that images can show children having sex, children can be shown in nude or erotic poses, children can perform sexual acts, children can be shown having sex with adults, children can be shown having sex with their own or opposite gender. The only catch - as long as they are not actual children being shown. Sound Confusing? Well it is.

Yesterday's ruling basically opens the way up to allowing pedophilia, child porn, and child molestation to be a major theme of everything from movies to printed materials - as long as they can prove that, the children depicted aren't actually children.

Getting the Court to rule this way obviously thrilled the ACLU and other pro-porn groups across our nation. It obviously deeply cut the groups that are trying to stop one of our nation's most cruel vices from spreading. So what should we expect? More of the same from as best I can see it.

With the publication of the University of Minnesota Press book released three weeks ago promoting the idea that sex between children and adults is just neato keen, and now being followed up with the ruling from this court that children can be made legitimate sexual objects on screen, parents - be afraid, be very very afraid.

Load the shotguns, carry your concealed weapons and suspect every creep that talks to your kids in the grocery store. At the rate the U.S. is going you might just have to shoot someone to literally save the innocence of your own child.

Harsh rhetoric - hardly. Why is the pope this week bringing all the bishops from around the world to meet to discuss the issue of homosexual pedophilia (and a few isolated cases of heterosexual too) amongst the servants of the church? Why is the North American Man Boy Love Association still in business and doing better than ever before? What is the great defense as to why we should not allow children to be sexualized on film - even if adults are playing them or a computer generated them?

(Too be read with a whiny little voice while holding one's nose) "Because we might not get to see films like Traffic or American Beauty." I didn't see Traffic though I am aware that it was nominated for Best Picture the year it came out. But I did see American Beauty which was deemed 'Best Picture'. This little political perverted statement - made through the eyes of a Pretendlander as director - wished to paint the middle class conservative family in America as nothing more than twice adulterating, homophobic, pedophilic, drug addicted, twisted rot. The director's anger against the "right wing" was focused into an attempt to say, "this is how conservative middle class America REALLY lives". Pretendland loved it - that's way they rushed it to the Academy to be deemed "the best of the year". But church going America for the most part yawned as it came and went - it didn't represent most American families - and we knew it.

Pretendland has evidently wielded its logic to the halls of the Supreme Court. But what it has done in the meantime is make every child in America - more vulnerable to the stalking of men who wish to prey on little boys and girls.

I'm sorry Mr. & Ms. Justices of the Supreme Court - but you struck out on this one. Your reasoning was lame. Your decision was even worse.

Maybe you will wear it as a badge of honor that you made child porn the new "fetish du jour", but please take note, you weakened Americans today.

Thank goodness there is that 2nd Amendment! It's there just in case we need to protect ourselves day to day. You may be sitting there saying, "C'mon what's with all the 'protectionism'?" If that's you, well, never mind you won't ever get it anyway. For the rest of you, lock and load, and be very afraid, be very very afraid!


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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; americanbeauty; child; childporn; children; clarencethomas; concealedweapon; libertarians; pedophilia; pornography; sandradayoconnor; secondamendment; supremecourt; traffic
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1 posted on 04/17/2002 8:45:49 AM PDT by KMC1
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To: KMC1
Wonder how the Justices would feel if they saw their grandchildren's nude picture on the web...
2 posted on 04/17/2002 8:54:05 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: KMC1
Does this 6-3 vote make the 6 enlightened ones proPornents of kiddie porn? :-?

Film after the 11 O'Clock Newz
3 posted on 04/17/2002 8:56:19 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: kellynla
I think they'd feel the same way you or I would feel. A nude picture of their grandchildren would have been illegal before this ruling.

Guess what? It's still illegal after this ruling.

4 posted on 04/17/2002 8:59:04 AM PDT by general_re
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To: kellynla
Well, if one of them had a grandchild shot and killed, they may personally want to see tighter gun restrictions. Doesn't mean they'd be justified in voting that way. This was the right decision by SCOTUS, even if it does creep most of us out.
5 posted on 04/17/2002 8:59:04 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: kellynla
Wonder how the Justices would feel if they saw their grandchildren's nude picture on the web...

Well, they'd probably make sure the person's prosecuted because nothing in yesterday's decision made the use of real children or "morphed" images using real children legal.

6 posted on 04/17/2002 8:59:27 AM PDT by gdani
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To: KMC1
Let me get this straight:
The Founding Fathers wrote the First Amendment to protect the right of grown men to look at dirty drawings (computer-animated graphics are just high-tech drawings/paintings).
However, they did not intend the First Amendment to give a politically active group the privilege of running an ad against a congressional candidate in late October.
7 posted on 04/17/2002 8:59:45 AM PDT by sanchmo
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To: truenospinzone
This was the right decision by SCOTUS, even if it does creep most of us out.

I don't want to agree. But I have to...

8 posted on 04/17/2002 9:00:13 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: sanchmo
However, they did not intend the First Amendment to give a politically active group the privilege of running an ad against a congressional candidate in late October

Uh, the Supreme Court hasn't ruled on this yet....

9 posted on 04/17/2002 9:02:08 AM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani
You didn''t listen to judge Andrew Napolitano yesterday on Fox, did you? He gave an explanation of this ruling that doesn't match what you just posted.
10 posted on 04/17/2002 9:02:47 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: sanchmo
We'll find out, but that would be a rather perverse result, wouldn't it? If nothing else, the perversity of that result might have the effect of upping the odds that CFR will fail ;)
11 posted on 04/17/2002 9:03:23 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Corin Stormhands
Those that are agreeing with decision are still failing to admit the type of material it makes available to the minds of the creeps that get off on thinking about kids to being with. This decision protects filth while the University of Minnesota now pushes pedophiles - can't you see the environment being created?
12 posted on 04/17/2002 9:03:37 AM PDT by KMC1
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To: KMC1
I understood Brit to say that the TV court ruled the opposite of the real court. Check it out! The purpose, as I saw it, was to portray yhe TV script writers as trying to be ahead of the curve but instead guessed wrong.
13 posted on 04/17/2002 9:04:33 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: KMC1
The saving grace is it will pass the SCOTUS if the law is rewritten. It was too broad (I disagree). But in the mean time..... and we've got to overcome Daschle this time who probably will want to save the smut.
14 posted on 04/17/2002 9:07:19 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: KMC1
What is the great defense as to why we should not allow children to be sexualized on film - even if adults are playing them or a computer generated them? (Too be read with a whiny little voice while holding one's nose) "Because we might not get to see films like Traffic or American Beauty." I didn't see Traffic though I am aware that it was nominated for Best Picture the year it came out. But I did see American Beauty which was deemed 'Best Picture'. This little political perverted statement - made through the eyes of a Pretendlander as director - wished to paint the middle class conservative family in America as nothing more than twice adulterating, homophobic, pedophilic, drug addicted, twisted rot. The director's anger against the "right wing" was focused into an attempt to say, "this is how conservative middle class America REALLY lives". Pretendland loved it - that's way they rushed it to the Academy to be deemed "the best of the year". But church going America for the most part yawned as it came and went - it didn't represent most American families - and we knew it.

So, in other words, you [I'm addressing the authors of the article, not the poster] recognize that the statute as written would have permitted the banning of American Beauty, but you think that's okay because you object to the political message of that film? And you think that's a power we should give to the government in a country in which Bill Clinton was elected twice?

15 posted on 04/17/2002 9:08:30 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian
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To: Clara Lou
You didn''t listen to judge Andrew Napolitano yesterday on Fox, did you? He gave an explanation of this ruling that doesn't match what you just posted

Well, if what you say is accurate, I'm sorry Judge Napolitano can't be bothered to read beyond the 3rd page of the decision before he starts spouting off on TV about it.

From the decision:

Section 2256(8)(C) prohibits a more common and lower tech means of creating virtual images, known as computer morphing. Rather than creating original images, pornographers can alter innocent pictures of real children so that the children appear to be engaged in sexual activity. Although morphed images many fall within the definition of virtual child pornography, they implicate the interests of real children and are in that sense closer to the images in Ferber. Respondents do not challenge this provision, and we do not consider it.

16 posted on 04/17/2002 9:10:23 AM PDT by gdani
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To: truenospinzone
I'm glad to see not everyone here is inclined toward irrational emotionalism. This is a difficult set of circumstances, but I am not willing to weaken or destroy the Constitution for purposes of expediency. The SC made the right decision, as distasteful as it may be. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision to reach for some of them.
17 posted on 04/17/2002 9:11:33 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: KMC1
For those who are interested in more than some talk show host's ranting and raving, here's a link to the text of the decision as well as the concurring and dissenting opinions...

ASHCROFT, ATTORNEY GENERAL, etal. v. FREE SPEECH COALITION etal.

Read it yourself. This was a bad law that was begging to be shot down. What really ought to concern people is that it took 5 years to get it killed. Those who are counting on a quick rescue by the courts from the onerous restrictions on free speech in the Campaign Finance Reform Act should think again. Bad laws take time to erase.

18 posted on 04/17/2002 9:12:11 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: KMC1
Why is the pope this week bringing all the bishops Cardinals from around the world the United States to meet to discuss the issue of homosexual pedophilia.....

Even given this mistake, I still agree with this article of course. I just wish that those in the media would really take the time to check out relatively basic facts before they're put in print.

19 posted on 04/17/2002 9:14:54 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: KMC1
As abhorrent as the child sex situation is, IMHO the court did the right thing. The only bases for banning entertainment videos would be to protect the individual actors in such a videos. Clearly evil acts must be permitted in videos and publication. I think very few would support banning all evil acts from films. Of course we don't allow producers to ACTUALLY kill or rape or rob. It's fiction, it depicts evil, but it's entertainment.

I think that banning a factious evil subject from videos, is a slippery slope we do not want to go down.

20 posted on 04/17/2002 9:15:22 AM PDT by babygene
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