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In Florida, Democrats Are Desperately Seeking a Winner
The New York Times ^ | 04/20/2002 | ELEANOR RANDOLPH

Posted on 04/19/2002 9:54:20 PM PDT by Pokey78

ORLANDO, Fla.
After recent humiliations, some of their own making, Democrats in Florida now try to seethe discreetly about their political plight. Republicans took over the entire state legislature six years ago. The president's brother Jeb Bush added the governor's mansion to the G.O.P. roster. The Congressional delegation is growing more Republican by the year. And, of course, there was the 2000 presidential election — a burden that Florida Democrats wear about as comfortably as a horsehair golfing shirt.

Yet instead of ranting openly about how they were robbed — a rant that is about half a beer beneath the surface — most Democrats extol their new level of "passion" or energy that suddenly empowers their party. And whether passion, energy or anger, this force is aimed at one mission: to win elections, starting with the governor's race this coming November.

The focus on winning explained why former Vice President Al Gore got an enthusiastic but ultimately noncommittal response about 2004 from Democrats meeting last weekend here in Orlando. But it is even more evident in the race to challenge Jeb Bush. The race is, at best, an uphill battle for the Democrats, who fear that if President Bush's popularity holds, it will boost their governor's numbers as well — even with the chadless, butterfly-free, high-tech voting machines now being tested to count more votes around the state.

Governor Bush's best-known challenger is former Attorney General Janet Reno, who is currently leading in polls for the Democratic primary in September. But many party workers, especially those outside Ms. Reno's South Florida base, are rooting for a Tampa corporate lawyer and first-time candidate named Bill McBride. Mr. McBride is a burly 54-year-old ex-marine, expert glad-hander and political eclectic. His supporters include the largest state unions, fellow lawyers, fellow dog lovers, business leaders, gun owners and some in the gay-rights community. His wife, formerly a powerful banker in the state, uses her own name, and his children go to public school.

Alex Klahm, a St. Petersburg Democrat, explained, "We really love Janet, but we think he is the one who can beat Jeb Bush."

Many regular Democrats agree, citing Mr. McBride's main disadvantage — being unknown — as his primary advantage. He has a clean political slate, they argue: no Waco, no President Clinton, no Elián González. He also has no visible health problems like Ms. Reno's Parkinson's, a point that only she can take note of publicly. ("My hand shakes, but my head and my heart stand for Democracy," she assures her followers.)

For now, Mr. McBride and his army have refused to criticize Ms. Reno. At worst, a few McBride people will conjure the scene of a debate between the former attorney general, who speaks softly and sometimes hesitantly, and Governor Bush, who is far more articulate than his older brother.

The image of a Reno-Bush debate does not always make the argument against her, however. She has a compelling message, especially for older Floridians. She talks about building a state as strong as the hurricane-proof house her mother built. And her health-care pitch includes the story of how her mother died peacefully at home, in her arms. In Florida, this is powerful stuff.

Moreover, Mr. McBride has his own troubles at the podium. His first big speech last year was so dismal that one columnist labeled the candidate "Bill McBoring." Since then he has improved, but Mr. McBride still has the disadvantage of looking as if he will be the Southern orator he isn't.

Mr. McBride is also disadvantaged by the rules for this primary, which has no runoff. Whoever wins the most votes in a field of three or four will run against Mr. Bush. Under Florida's old rules, a dark-horse candidate might have hoped to follow such Florida legends as Senator Bob Graham or the late Lawton Chiles, who launched political careers by winning their runoff elections.

Asked why the Republican legislature changed the primary rules for this particular election, Susan MacManus, professor of government at the University of South Florida, said, "Because they could." It is a bottom line that Democrats passionately and energetically want to do something about in November.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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1 posted on 04/19/2002 9:54:21 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: summer
Ping
2 posted on 04/19/2002 9:54:50 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Well gee, they got Janet Reno, and she is a real winner if ever I have seen one! What more do they want? :)
BTW: Would they recognize a winner if they saw one, or would they demand a recount?
3 posted on 04/19/2002 9:55:56 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Pokey78
"My hand shakes, but my head and my heart stand for Democracy," she assures her followers.

De-spin-erator version: "My hand shakes, but my head and my heart are lifeless, and I stand up (Before I pass out and fall over) for DemonRATS," she assures her followers.

4 posted on 04/19/2002 10:00:15 PM PDT by Henchster
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To: Pokey78
May the DemocRATS go down in flames!
5 posted on 04/19/2002 10:01:46 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Pokey78
Do these new voting machines make sure democrats don't vote more than once?
6 posted on 04/19/2002 10:03:25 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Pokey78
"In Florida, Democrats Are Desperately Seeking a Winner"

So desparate their masterful vote theft technology is shifting into overdrive.

Too bad they are so corrupt and brain dead with their politics.

7 posted on 04/19/2002 10:07:21 PM PDT by friendly
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To: Pokey78
RUN janet RUN !!!!
8 posted on 04/19/2002 10:11:17 PM PDT by 4U2C
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To: Pokey78
After recent humiliations, some of their own making, Democrats in Florida now try to seethe discreetly about their political plight.

This is what their friends at the NY Times write about the Demoncrats. Things are looking good, but we must stay alert to give them the coup de grace when the time comes.

9 posted on 04/20/2002 12:17:39 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Pokey78; JeanS
Mr. McBride is also disadvantaged by the rules for this primary, which has no runoff. Whoever wins the most votes in a field of three or four will run against Mr. Bush. Under Florida's old rules, a dark-horse candidate might have hoped to follow such Florida legends as Senator Bob Graham or the late Lawton Chiles, who launched political careers by winning their runoff elections.

Expect to hear a lot more whining about this new procedure. Yet, voters I know here in FL -- including senior citizens who are Dems -- believe the GOP FL legislature did the RIGHT thing by making only ONE primary to determine a candidate, and eliminating subsequent run-offs.

These voters don't think you need more than one primary to determine the winner -- and they appreciate the less expensive cost of the new procedure. The fact that voters support the change will probably never be mentioned in these on-going and upcoming whines.
10 posted on 04/20/2002 5:28:12 AM PDT by summer
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To: Pokey78; JeanS
Governor Bush, who is far more articulate than his older brother.

...and, who is also healthier than Reno, and far more knowledgable about what is happening in this state than McBride.

Gee, it's so difficult to understand how an articulate, fit, intelligent candidate like Gov. Bush could be the favorite of the majority of voters. What a mystery....
11 posted on 04/20/2002 5:30:31 AM PDT by summer
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To: Pokey78
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12 posted on 04/20/2002 6:01:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Pokey78
The race is, at best, an uphill battle for the Democrats, who fear that if President Bush's popularity holds, it will boost their governor's numbers as well — even especially with the chadless, butterfly-free, high-tech voting machines now being tested to count more votes around the state.

IOW, the dims ain't figgered out how to commit voter fraud using the new systems yet.

13 posted on 04/20/2002 6:08:51 AM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Pokey78
They already have a weiner in the person of Janet El-Reno.
14 posted on 04/20/2002 6:18:03 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Pokey78
Asked why the Republican legislature changed the primary rules for this particular election, Susan MacManus, professor of government at the University of South Florida, said, "Because they could."

Did the NYT ask the lawmakers who wrote the law, or those who opposed it, or Florida voters why the law was changed? No, they asked some liberal professor who obviously has an ax to grind. Typical "balanced" reporting!

I approve of eliminating runoffs since they are unnecessary, and they cost taxpayers extra money to hold, and I think the majority of Florida voters would agree with me, not this professor.

15 posted on 04/20/2002 6:50:24 AM PDT by Truth Addict
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To: ladyinred
"Hey what's the matter with Janet Beno, she has an excelent record in up holding the law".

Oh wait, my mistake, "It's that she has an excelent record of up holding the laws that she likes or the ones she makes up on her own".

16 posted on 04/20/2002 10:44:02 AM PDT by chiefqc
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