Posted on 04/21/2002 9:48:57 PM PDT by Pokey78
Check out this thread from January, from the Washington Times. Same thing you are doing! Press Here
Nothing personal, just tired of organized religion to be honest with you. The mythology and human traits we associate with the inexplicable infinite
has resulted in so much death and destruction, I don't wish to be a part of it.
Maybe in time I will come back to it, but I'm tired of the intolerant, condescending attitude associated with Christianity.
I'm going to go back to my old Joseph Campbell tapes and look "East of the Suez" for awhile.
You God-haters really should calm down. These collective hissy fits actually get humorous.
Christ doesn't turn people into Kooks, Christ turns Kooks into people!
Then why should what other people think about the subject bother you?
OK, fair enough.
The mythology and human traits we associate with the inexplicable infinite has resulted in so much death and destruction, I don't wish to be a part of it.
Disagree mucho. The Bible tells the truth. It says people are born evil. It says we are inclined to greed, hate, jelousy and murder. I believe that. Judeo-Christianity tempers , not enhances or encourages, these traits. I actually think the Bible is rather anti-religious. Something else for which to admire it.
Maybe in time I will come back to it, but I'm tired of the intolerant, condescending attitude associated with Christianity.
Fair point.
Note: telling a homosexual he is doing something wrong is not abuse.
Consider, your principles tossed. Their are many gays in the GOP and we are making inroads to power in the Party. We have a President in office who has appointed more gays than any other president in history, we have a Gay GOP Member of Congress from Arizona and more and more gays are voting Republican.
We Are The GOP and without our support GOP candidates are doomed to failure.
Now would that be a win-win for you? You really don't see a difference between the socialist Dems and a potentially economic-libertarian GOP?
Now would that be a win-win for you? You really don't see a difference between the socialist Dems and a potentially economic-libertarian GOP?
The homosexual agenda does not need to be in the GOP Platform. The only thing that matters is that we have a Republican President who is sympathetic to the homosexual lifestyle. He met with us at the 2000 GOP Convention, appointed gays to high office and will be there for us. Although, I am not thrilled with Bush's stance on Amnesty for illegal aliens, statehood for Palestine, education spending, CFR and welfare for non-citizens, I am proud that he condones the gay agenda. The Log Cabin Republicans are proud of our President and of our Gay Republican Member(s) of Congress.
That is NOT the case here in the state of PA. All the butt-thumpers vote Democrat.
1) I'm NOT talking about the rabid homosexual who's evidently mostly out for pleasure of the moment and maximizing control, pleasure issues at anyone and everyone's expense in service to his preferences etc.
2) Consider the principle, truth, declaration that the world shall "know we are Christians by our Love one for another." . . . and that based on Christ's criteria therein stated, the world has plenty of grounds to consider that there are really maybe what--2-5% of the claimed Christians in the world who really are. . . . if one was attending to that criteria only.
3) SOME homosexuals from the group that missed healthy affection and affirmation from a father figure, were mangled by a stressed domineering mother etc. . . who really don't want to shove their actions or orientation down anyone's throat (no pun intended) . . . etc.
3.1) SOME homosexuals from the latter group tend to be incredibly and authentically--and fairly sacrificially loving toward most any needy soul who crosses their paths. . . . sometimes (often?) putting most who claim to be Christian to shame.
4) I suppose if I realllllly got sternly observant, I might be able to trace some selfishness still at the root of most of their caring but not across the board, I think. Often they are loving just because it's their way of being in the world. If we consider that all true love comes from God . . . .God even has some stronger statements about loving people being in and of Him. . . .
5) IF we consider a professing Christian who is still a struggling rage-aholic; one who is a struggling glutton; one who is a struggling gossip; one who is a struggling liar; one who is a struggling alcoholic; one who is a struggling kleptomaniac; one who is a struggling depressive; . . . one who is a struggling worrier . . . all of them fairly inept, absent, nonexistent in terms of their sacrificially loving others . . . all of them hating their sin but making very slow progress over years to decades in terms of getting really on top of it . . . sometimes it seeming that even God has higher priorities for areas in their lives He's dealing with.. . . .
6) And then there's the type of homosexual I mentioned who also hates his sin and also struggles over years to decades with it and also earnestly wants Jesus to be His Savior AND LORD. . . . but who is many levels of quality and quantity better at platonically loving most any who cross their paths . . .
7) Who's the better Christian? Who's more Christlike? It's often been a sobering question to me.
8) And what ought The Church do about that?
And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. (Gen 1:31)
So, either the Bible tells the truth, or people are evil. My Bible tells me that people are made in the image and likeness of God. I suppose your truth of the Bible would mean that God is evil as well, by extension.
The Bible is true. God is good. And people are born with an inclination to evil. How else to explain the evil that we do? Our rebellions aren't ignored in the Bible and they can't be ignored in our history.
If we recognize our evil, our gratitude to Jesus grows exponentially.
Some people believe in re-incarnation. If someone who believed that told me I was doomed to come back to live as an ant in my next life, do you think that would bother me, seeing as how I don't believe in reincarnation?
It's one thing to be non-Christian; it's quite another to be anti-Christian.
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