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Andrew Sullivan: MARY CHENEY COMES OUT - AS A REPUBLICAN
andrewsullivan.com ^ | 04/22/2002 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 04/21/2002 9:48:57 PM PDT by Pokey78

In what looks set to be the beginning of a more active political presence, the daughter of the vice-president, Mary Cheney, has just joined the board of the Republican Unity Coalition. The RUC is a new group in the Republican Party, designed to advance the inclusion of openly gay men and women in the party's ranks and leadership. It's spear-headed by Charles Francis, a close gay friend of the president, and a good friend of mine and supporter of this site. According to Charles,

Mary's main focus will be to help the RUC reach out to gay and lesbian voters, as well as build bridges to all within the Republican Party. This summer, she will work with us to build the RUC membership network across the country. Mary's experience, both in her past work at Coors and with the Bush/Cheney campaign, provides the RUC with a whole new level of judgement and political savvy. We are so proud to have Mary Cheney stand with the RUC.
Cheney puts it this way:
RUC is an organization that reflects my fundamental beliefs and principles. Working together we can expand the Republican Party's outreach to non-traditional Republicans; we can make sexual orientation a non-issue for the Republican Party; and we can help achieve equality for all gay and lesbian Americans.
This is splendid news. It seems to me a quite amazing fact - and devastating to the David Brocks of the world who want to keep gays on the Democratic plantation - that the most prominent openly gay member of a first or second family in American history is a Republican. This reflects a simple truth: that gay people come in all shapes and sizes, from all backgrounds and religions, and from every political shade and hue. Rather than be terrified of this, we should welcome it. From all accounts, Cheney is also no believer in traditional gay rights victimology and may, with any luck, begin to give a prominent voice to what many regular, non-activist gay people believe: that we want no special favors, just simple equality; and that the right to marry is a critical and non-negotiable part of that struggle. Welcome, Mary, to the even more difficult part of coming out as who we are: not just that we are gay, but that we are complicated, diverse and often non-leftist in our politics. Now let's see if the religious right and gay left unite in decrying this hopeful sign of changing times.


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1 posted on 04/21/2002 9:48:57 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: summer, Howlin; Miss Marple; mombonn; DallasMike; austinTparty; MHGinTN; RottiBiz; WaterDragon...
Ping for the ASPL.
2 posted on 04/21/2002 9:49:36 PM PDT by Pokey78
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You realize that FR is a hot bed (ironic term) of Bible thumping homophobia.
3 posted on 04/21/2002 9:53:50 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Really? I hadn't noticed. hehe
4 posted on 04/21/2002 9:54:40 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: jlogajan
homophobia

Fear of sameness?

5 posted on 04/21/2002 10:01:51 PM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: Rightwing Canuck
I'll refer you to the dictionary definition which records standard usage.
6 posted on 04/21/2002 10:09:10 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Pokey78
Here come the Christ kooks.
7 posted on 04/21/2002 10:19:41 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Pokey78
It's good that many homosexuals see that leftist ideology is bad for them and everyone else. To the extent that they reject that ideology, they are welcome allies. However, the benefits of marriage should not be extended to homosexual partners. Private companies are welcome to offer them all manner of "domestic partnership" benefits, but our government should not recognize homosexual partnerships as marriages.

WFTR
Bill

8 posted on 04/21/2002 10:20:57 PM PDT by WFTR
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To: jlogajan
Homophobia: Fear of sameness, monotony or of homosexuality or of becoming homosexual

Bible thumping

Tsk, tsk, you Homilophobe lol

Seriously, I could care less whether they're gay or not. If they want less government, then they should do what they have to do to achieve that goal.

10 posted on 04/21/2002 10:29:07 PM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: Pokey78
Bump. I'm all for less marginalization of people with similar goals...
11 posted on 04/21/2002 10:42:51 PM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: zarf
That's a pretty insulting terminology.
12 posted on 04/21/2002 10:57:11 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: Pokey78
As long as she supports all the Republican party planks, such as being pro-life, that marriage is between one man and one woman, etc. I say welcome aboard.

If not, she is a fifth columnist in the Republican party.

14 posted on 04/21/2002 11:25:31 PM PDT by ikka
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To: jlogajan
Perhaps your dictionary is not very discrimminating between "homophobia" and aversion to having one's children, one's children's schools, one's culture, one's religion coercively manipulated, mangled, modified by a powerful political effort in violation of The Boss's guidelines, directions and expectations.

If Christians played such a game with their values, would you be called Christianphobic?

Issues of turf do not necessarily involve phobia.

In terms of history, the evidence is that cultures overly given to allowing, supporting too much homosexuality--those cultures don't seem to do very well over the long haul.

Per my observation, there seems to be at least a couple main styles of homosexuality. One group is more or less in your face, we are taking over your culture, your children, your political arena, your jobs, your family, your churches, your streets, your parks, your government, your courts, your life. We will win. We will seduce, coerce, rape any guy that seems fitting to us to do so with and you will be unable to do anything about it. You are uncooth, uneducated, unmodern, irrational, ignorant, square, out of it and only worthy to be aborted no matter how long you've been out of the womb.

The other group has also mostly given up struggling against their orientation but they'd mostly appreciate being left alone, being treated with civility, having a fair chance at jobs that didn't upset mothers, fathers and Christians and just getting on with their lives. They don't necessarily want to "come out." They don't want treated like vampires but they aren't out to seduce anyone who's not trying to seduce or at least actively cooperate with them. They understand aversions to their orientation. They don't particularly feel wonderful about it themselves. But they are tired of struggling against it. They'd be glad if the issue just went away or sank out of public discourse.

15 posted on 04/21/2002 11:28:17 PM PDT by Quix
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Isn’t she the one who’s a lesbian ? Just what we need one more RINO Horse
16 posted on 04/22/2002 12:17:56 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: Pokey78
Sorry but we can't throw out our principles just to expand our base.
17 posted on 04/22/2002 12:47:02 AM PDT by arielb
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To: jlogajan
I'll refer you to the dictionary definition which records standard usage.

Of course you will......dullard!

You know very well "homophobia" became standard usage the same way "african-american" and "pro-choice" did.

Weak, very weak.

18 posted on 04/22/2002 1:17:05 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: arielb
And what principle is that?

Love thy neighbor? (No pun intended)

19 posted on 04/22/2002 1:30:44 AM PDT by DB
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To: jlogajan
You realize that FR is a hot bed (ironic term) of Bible thumping homophobia

It is also a hotbed of what ever you may be against or for. It is diverse and has its share of the rational and irrational. Your comment sets you in the latter since you offer no argument only insult.

I have no problem with homosexuals, but I do have a big problem with the whole issue of rights and the affording of protection of so called rights beyond what is afforded to all. By setting up a protected group, you set up envy and animosity toward the group because they are treated differently. Any comment, be in informed or uninformed, gets tagged as prejudiced. So discussion ends and resentment begins.

What is being asked of those who do not appreciate the lifstyle of homosexuals is an affirmation of that lifestyle as being normal and correct. You also have another major problem, which is historically when homosexuality became approved, it signaled the end of that civilzation as well as an eventual backlash against them.

Most people in this country take it for granted as being able to continue with its liberties forever. It will not.

Another article on FR tells of George Lucas saying that democracies fall from within and move toward dictatorships. There is some truth there and you can certainly see it in the size of our government and its continual growth, both in size and control over our lives. The dictators are often puritanical leftist who ascribe to a moral code which stamps out what they consider evil (jews and homosexuals in Hitler's case even though several of his underlings were homosexual!) but runs a socialist economy, since dictators, by their nature, like to be in control of everything. The dictator feeds the peoples resentment toward bosses and toward groups. A democracy will exist only when all men are treated equally. We have moved beyond that and groups demand inequality. The seeds of our destruction are continuing to be planted.

20 posted on 04/22/2002 3:08:36 AM PDT by KeyWest
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