Posted on 04/29/2002 10:27:32 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
* German Gun Control and the Illinois FOID *
by Raymond Benwood
April 29, 2002
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Cesare Beccaria, quoted by Thomas Jefferson
In 1968 a new gun control act was passed in response to race riots in some of our major cities. From this Act a whole new generation of gun control laws were created in the states.
In 1992 * Jews for Preservation of Firearm Ownership Inc. * published, * Gun Control Gateway to Tyranny * which contains the actual text of pre Nazi, and Nazi gun control laws.
In Gateway to Tyranny, JPFO shows the stark comparison between the 1938 Nazi law and our 1968 Gun Control Act. In fact evidence exists in the library of congress, that the late Senator Thomas J Dodd, who was the chief framer of the '68 Act, owned a text of the Nazi weapons law. Gateway to Tyranny exposes the usage of terms and phrases in Nazi law, and how they were deliberately applied to our '68 Gun Act.
Its obvious that the late Senator Dodd, who was a lawyer at Nuremberg, must have liked what he saw in the Nazi gun laws, since he used them as a guide when he wrote our '68 Gun Act.
With passage of the '68 Act another door opened under the color of law, this time in the state of Illinois. Since white liberal racism energized the '68 Act, seeing it as a tool to further their socialist agenda, Mayor Daley Sr. of Chicago used his influence to bring about a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card in Illinois as a response to race riot concerns in Chicago.
The FOID card was believed to be a powerful tool, to keep guns out of the hands of certain groups in the state deemed dangerous to Daley. Gateway to Tyranny shows that the Nazis both created and used gun control laws that were legally passed. One such terrible law was the Waffen Oder Munitionserwerbscheins (German for "License to obtain a weapon or ammunition"), a firearms Owners Identification permit (FOID).
The Illinois FOID card, like the German permit, was designed to force gun owners to comply with the new law, by requiring the use of the permit (FOID) for the legal purchase of ammunition.
The stark comparisons between the Illinois FOID and the laws created and used by the Nazis are not just a matter of terms and phrases, but are synonymous in their intent. In Germany “the district police administrated the application process.” In Illinois, “the state police administrates the application process.”
In Germany, “a record keeping system was required for the transfer of handguns with the requirement that the records be kept for a period of 10 yrs and must include a description of the firearm.”
In Illinois, “any person within this state who transfers or causes to be transferred any firearm shall keep a record of such transfer for a period of 10 yrs and must include a description, serial number, or other information identifying the firearm and must include the transferee FOID number.”
In Germany, “a valid permit was required for transfer of a firearm, commercial or private.”
In Illinois, “a valid FOID is required for transfer of a firearm, commercial or private.”
In Germany, “all records were subject to police inspection on demand.”
In Illinois, “on demand of a peace officer such transferor shall produce for inspection such record of transfer.”
In Germany, “the police maintained a list of the identities and personal information of all licensees.”
In Illinois, “the state police maintain a record of all FOID cardholders.”
In Germany, “license denial could be made by race, inimical behavior or those deemed unreliable.”
In Illinois, “Chicago requires registration of all firearms and acceptance is near impossible and reports of FOID denial for bad attitudes have been reported else where in the state.”
In Germany, “certain permits were valid for up to 3 yrs.”
In Illinois, “the FOID card is valid for a period of 5yrs.”
In Germany, “a prohibition for the transfer of a firearm and ammunition to adolescents existed”.
In Illinois, “a prohibition for the transfer of a firearm and ammunition to adolescents exists.”
There are requirements for the transportation of a firearm. In Germany, “a certain type of permit was required.” In Illinois, “a valid FOID is required, and the firearm must be unloaded and properly cased.”
In Germany, “good Nazis could legally conceal carry, if they were issued the proper permit.”
In Illinois, “no conceal carry law exists.”
It should be obvious by now, as it was in Gateway to Tyranny, comparing the German gun laws to our '68 gun act, that the framer of the Illinois FOID Act had knowledge of German gun control laws, used by the Nazis and annotated those ideas into the Illinois FOID Act. There has been a misconception in Illinois and around the Nation, that a statute passed by Legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land.
The constitution is the supreme law of the land; for any statue to be valid, it must be in agreement. Marbury vs. Madison, 5 (2 cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803) states “All laws which are repugnant to the constitution are null and void.” Many laws have been passed, but that does not make them lawful. Laws like the Illinois FOID card violate original intent of the 2nd Amendment of a general prohibition against state and federal legislation that infringes the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
The potential abuse of laws like the Illinois FOID are apparent, and should be repealed immediately. Illinois, under the color of law, has the potential of being the first state in the Union to impose a complete gun ban, with door-to-door confiscation, an act of Treason!
Today we live in a nation where the wearing of a swastika or a confederate battle flag patch or the questioning of the Holocaust, brings about a violent reaction in some people.
So why are so many people willing to accept the same types of laws that were the foundation of Genocide? Why do the big pro gun groups not fight against such laws that are so obviously unconstitutional and morally wrong? Our rights are self-evident and must be defended, if we are to remain FREE!
Raymond Benwood
Free Illinois
Permission to reprint-republish granted
Reference Material:
“Gun Control: Gateway to Tyranny” by Jay Simkin and Aaron Zelman, available at http://www.jpfo.org , Hartford, WI. (262)-673-9745
“Nazi Firearms Law and the Disarming of the German Jews” by Stephen Halbrook Ph.D. Attorney, available at
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com
1) Firearm Owners Identification Act for the state of Illinois.
http://www.legis.state.il.us/scripts/imstran.exe?LIBSINCWHB0401
2) Senate doc. 2807 Feb 1982 on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, available at
www.barefootsworld.net/senate82.html
http://www.barefootsworld.net/senate82.html www.barefootsworld.net/senate82.html
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Just spoke to the ISP and this link is temporarly broken, should be up in couple of days. You can obtain a copy of the "Transport your Gun Legally" from Master Sergeant Rick Hector Deputy Chief Public Info. 217.782.6637, xx
* Email Master Sergeant Rick Hector *
hamptol@isp.state.il.us
* Facts and Figures ver3.1 *(700k file)
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Sometime later it became known that instead of being destroyed, the guns were back on the street, in the hands of gang bangers, because they were being sold by GASP! Chicago cops.
Man! Have you pushed one of my buttons!
Doesn't look as though Illinois (home of the Murder Capital of the U.S.) will be the next concealed carry State.
Illinois is one of seven states IL OH WI MN MO KS IA working othe the project. OH and MO is close. When IL citizens find out that other 44 other states have CCW. they should be pissed.
Sometime later it became known that instead of being destroyed, the guns were back on the street, in the hands of gang bangers, because they were being sold by GASP! Chicago cops.
This is clearly a dictator city.
The original restrictions were as follows:
For a period of 5 years from finishing his sentence of jail or probation a felon was denied an FOID card
For a period of 5 years from being released from a mental hospital a patient was denied an FOID card.
The restrictions on felons went up to 10 years sometime in the late 80's.
The restriction on felons then went up to 40 years in the 90's and is now a lifetime ban.
The 5 year prohibition for mental patients is still in effect today
Drug addicts and people who are mentally retarded are prohibited too.
( but you have to tell the state you are a retard or addict!)
As you can see the origianl law is totally diffrent from the law we have today.
A year or two before the implementation of the FOID card, Illinois underwent a constitutional convention.
I've always suspected that the weak 2nd Amendment of the Illinois Constitution was implemented then.
The FOID card breaks both the spirit and letter of the US Constitution
But that's life in the socialist State of Illinois
When my dad applied for the I.D. card, it was supposed to be used only for the buying or selling of guns and ammunition. Later, it was changed and my Brother-in-law went to jail for having a handgun in his Oak Park house and not having a card.
My Brother-in-law actually became angry when he saw my Texas CCW card. He couldn't understand how a normal citizen could have something like that.
IT is time for folks like you and I to spread the word.
Be active, supportive, encourage discussion of self defense issues.
Vote these duds out of office.
The following is a list of 53 members of congress that also belong to an organization called the Democratic Socialists of America. I have also included web pages and e-mail addresses so you can contact them and demand that they stop promoting their socialist agenda in Congress. For more information about the Democratic Socialists of America, you can go to their web site and find out for yourself what it is all about. The URL is (http://www.dsausa.org)
Executive Committee
Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL), Chair
2202 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
bsanders@hr.house.gov
sanders@igc.apc.org
http://www.house.gov/bernie/
Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04), Co-Chair
124 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
cymck@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/mckinney/
Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04), Co-Chair
2134 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
pdefazio@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/defazio/
Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26), Co-Chair
2431 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
hinchey@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/hinchey/
Rep Major Owens (NY-11), Co-Chair
2305 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Major.Owens@Mail.House.Gov
Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12)
1221 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/velazquez/
Rep Lane Evans (IL-17)
2335 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
lane.evans@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/evans/
Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35)
2344 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/waters/
Staff Coordinator
Bill Goold 213 Cannon H.O.B. Washington D.C. 20515
The Full Membership
Rep Earl Hilliard (AL-07)
1314 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/hilliard/
Rep Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL)
2422 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
faleomavaega@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/faleomavaega/
Rep Ed Pastor (AZ-02)
2465 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
edpastor@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/pastor/
Rep. Lynn C Woolsey (CA-06)
439 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0529
woolsey@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/woolsey/
Rep George Miller (CA-07)
2205 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
George.Miller-Pub@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/georgemiller/
Rep Nancy Pelosi (CA-08)
2457 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
sf.nancy@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/
Rep Fortney "Pete" Stark (CA-13)
239 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
petemail@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/stark/
Rep Henry A. Waxman (CA-29)
2204 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/waxman/
Rep Xavier Becerra (CA-30)
1119 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0530
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/becerra/
Rep Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34)
2269 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0534
arcoiris@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/torres/
Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35)
2344 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/waters/
Rep George E. Brown (CA-42)
2300 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
talk2geb@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/georgebrown/
Rep Bob Filner (CA-50)
330 Cannon House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/filner/
Rep Diane DeGette (CO-01)
1404 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
degette@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/degette/
Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL)
1424 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/norton/
Rep Corrine Brown (FL-03)
1610 Longworth House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/corrinebrown/
Rep Carrie P. Meek (FL-17)
401 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0917
cpm@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/meek/
Rep Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23)
1039 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
hastings@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/alceehastings/
Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04)
124 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
cymck@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/mckinney/
Rep John Lewis (GA-05)
229 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-1005
john.lewis@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/johnlewis/welcome.html
Rep Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
1233 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
neil.abercrombie@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/abercrombie/
Rep Patsy Mink (HI-02)
2135 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0917
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/mink/
Rep Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
408 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
luisg@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/gutierrez/
Rep Danny Davis (IL-07)
1218 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/davis/
Rep Lane Evans (IL-17)
2335 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
lane.evans@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/evans/
Rep Julia Carson (IN-10)
1541 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Rep.Carson@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/carson/
Rep John Olver (MA-01)
1027 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
john.olver@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/olver/
Rep Jim McGovern (MA-03)
512 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
james.mcgovern@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/mcgovern/
Rep Barney Frank (MA-04)
2210 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/frank/
Rep John Tierney (MA-06)
120 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/tierney/
Rep David Bonior (MI-10)
2207 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515
david.bonior@mail.house.gov
http://davidbonior.house.gov/
Rep Lynn N. Rivers (MI-13)
1724 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
lynn.rivers@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/rivers/
Rep John Conyers (MI-14)
2426 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
jconyers@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/conyers/
Rep Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02)
1408 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Thompsonms2nd@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/thompson/
Rep Melvin L. Watt (NC-12)
1230 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
melmail@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/watt/
Rep Donald Payne (NJ-10)
2244 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
donald.payne@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/payne/
Rep Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
2448 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
nadler@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/nadler/
Rep Major Owens (NY-11),
2305 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Major.Owens@Mail.House.Gov
Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12)
1221 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/velazquez/
Rep Charles Rangel (NY-15)
2354 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/rangel/
Rep Jose E. Serrano (NY-16)
2342 Rayburn House OfficeBuilding, Washington, DC 20515
jserrano@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/serrano/
Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26), Co-Chair
2431 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
hinchey@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/hinchey/
Rep John LaFalce (NY-29)
2310 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/lafalce/
Rep Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
2311 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515
Rep.Kaptur@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/kaptur/
Rep Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
1730 Longworth House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/kucinich/flash1.htm
Rep Stephanie-Tubbs-Jones (OH-11)
2365 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
donald.payne@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/stokes/
Rep Sherrod Brown (OH-13)
328 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Sherrod@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/sherrodbrown/
Rep Elizabeth Furse (OR-01)
316 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
rep.elizabeth.furse@mail.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/furse/
Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04),
2134 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
pdefazio@hr.house.gov
http://www.house.gov/defazio/
Rep Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
1205 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/fattah/
Rep William Coyne (PA-14)
2455 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/coyne/
Rep Robert C. Scott (VA-03)
2464 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
bvassar@mail.house.gov
Rep James A McDermott (WA-07)
2349 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Web based e-mail: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/
Unfortunately, the then-Secretary-of-State was able to fund his own gubernatorial compaign using money unqualified people had paid as bribes to get commercial drivers' licenses. Despite the fact that people had died as a result of malfeasance in the DMV, this crook was able, with the aid of those contributions, to eke out a 51-48% victory over his opponent.
What makes all of this even more tragic is that quite a number of Illinoisans voted for the crook in the mistaken belief that a bad Republican is still better than a good Democrat. Consequently, we have a king who has decided that it's his job to prevent the legislature from going home if they don't give him the anti-gun legislation he wants. Although it's possible that his successor might be somewhat better, things really do not look promising.
I know all about them
DemonRATic Socialists of America
The progressive caucus is the web site they're hiding under now.
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