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FBI Gives Mailbox Bomber Profile
AP via Newsday ^ | May 4, 2002 | Carol Ann Riha

Posted on 05/04/2002 7:31:43 PM PDT by John W

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DES MOINES, Iowa -- The note found accompanying pipe bombs in rural mailboxes in three Midwestern states reflects a writer who is angry with the government and appears to be either working alone or in a very small group, a former FBI profiler said Saturday.

Eight bombs were found Friday in eastern Iowa and western Illinois, including six that exploded and injured six people. On Saturday, five more bombs appeared in central Nebraska mailboxes; none exploded.

"Attention people ..." the note says. "If the government controls what you want to do, they control what you can do."


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The headline is a bit misleading,I don't see current FBI giving a profile per se in here anywhere.
1 posted on 05/04/2002 7:31:43 PM PDT by John W
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To: John W
other aspects indicate the writer may have mental health problems.

Well, I can see this analyst made good use of his time in govt.

2 posted on 05/04/2002 7:39:38 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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Clint Van Zandt, who started his own behavioral analysis company after a 25-year career with the FBI that include leading the team credited with identifying the Unabomber.

Where else have I heard this name?

4 posted on 05/04/2002 8:02:57 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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I think he was a Condit apologist.
5 posted on 05/04/2002 8:04:48 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: John W
Individual vs small group would be more worrisome except for the fact that this turd's method of delivery makes it highly likely that soon, someone will ID a 'suspicious' vehicle in the 'area' of the placed bombs.

Anthrax mailings just 'blow'(sorry for the pun) this tripe's MO off the map.

6 posted on 05/04/2002 8:14:11 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: JeepInMazar
"...Where else have I heard this name?..."

He was at Waco.

He said on Geraldo's show that the FBI fired flashbangs at Davidians who came outside the building, to drive them back inside----"the FBI was afraid of a massive breakout..."

7 posted on 05/04/2002 8:20:53 PM PDT by gatex
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To: JeepInMazar
Where else have I heard this name?(Van Zandt)

Looks like he's quoted a lot - he's commented on Chandra Levy, Waco, lots of other stuff...

8 posted on 05/04/2002 8:20:57 PM PDT by Randjuke
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To: John W
You're right. The headline suggests the FBI is releasing a profile, but the article only quotes a former FBI profiler who has his own company.
9 posted on 05/04/2002 8:31:38 PM PDT by wimpycat
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He was at Waco.

Bingo, that's it. This guy gets around. Where does he work?

10 posted on 05/04/2002 8:33:03 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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I would suggest it's either one person or a small, small group of participants

We shouldn't be on the look out for hundreds of mail bombers working in concert, then? Thank goodness for FBI profiling!

11 posted on 05/04/2002 8:36:25 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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"This guy didn't just fall off of a turnip truck. This is a guy who is angry with government," Van Zandt said.

Now that gives one pause for thought. Is Zandt insinuating that the guy has to be smart to be "angry with government"?

12 posted on 05/04/2002 8:37:10 PM PDT by Lady Jag
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"a 25-year career with the FBI that include leading the team credited with identifying the Unabomber. "

As I remember the brother of the Unabomber turned him or the FBI would still be looking for him ....and the Atlanta Park bomber.

13 posted on 05/04/2002 8:37:49 PM PDT by Howie
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To: Randjuke
Looks like he's quoted a lot - he's commented on Chandra Levy, Waco, lots of other stuff...

It is his involvement with Waco that I remember his name. I think I met him once at the home of a mutual friend. For me it was a day which something else very interesting happened....but I shall not be discussed right now.

14 posted on 05/04/2002 8:38:13 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: John W
This is my own version of the mailbox bomber profile, from another thread I posted on yesterday, before we knew about the Nebraska bombs.

White male (Northern European extraction, either foreign or domestic)
High IQ
Loner, social misfit--his acquaintances and relatives think he's "weird"
At least 30 years old
Educated, but probably not college graduate; largely self-taught
Spends a lot of time at the library or bookstore or computer store, and gets into philosophical arguments with the staff, who are familiar with him from his frequent visits.
Spends time at home almost exclusively on the computer online.
Has received extensive, but not continual, psychological/psychiatric counseling, probably since adolescence.
Not politically active, but has an incoherent but firmly held argument on almost any subject.
Comes from middle-class, "normal" family (except for him).

15 posted on 05/04/2002 8:39:17 PM PDT by wimpycat
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oops......bad grammer on my part....should read: I shall not discuss this right now.

All your grammar belong to us!

16 posted on 05/04/2002 8:40:28 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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Y'all know as well as I do that there's only one way to comabt this problem. We must, as soon as possible, pass national legislation outlawing pipes.

Now, I know a bunch of you, mainly the gun lovers I'm sure, will immediately start whining, "If pipes are outlawed, only pipe bombers will have pipes." To which I say, stuff it in yer pipe and smoke it!
</sarcasm>

17 posted on 05/04/2002 8:41:26 PM PDT by upchuck
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As I remember the brother of the Unabomber turned him or the FBI would still be looking for him ....

Yes. I'm beginning to think that this story was written based on a press release issued by Van Zandt himself. Heads up!

18 posted on 05/04/2002 8:42:39 PM PDT by JeepInMazar
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Reporting at its worst!

...said Clint Van Zandt, who started his own behavioral analysis company after a 25-year career with the FBI that include leading the team credited with identifying the Unabomber.

Bull. While Carol Ann Riha writes for the news media, it appears that she never actually reads the papers or watches the news hereself, otherwise she would known that it wasn't a crack FBI team that identified the Unabomber, these guys didn't find squat for 18 years. The fact is, the Justice Department gave David Kaczynski $1 million dollar reward for turning his brother Theodore Kaczynski in for being the "Unabomber." See Unabomber's brother gets $1 million for turning him in.

Nothing in the note indicates the writer was a woman, a foreigner or anyone whose primary language is not English, he said.

More bull from Clint Van Zandt, former FBI deadwood agent who apparently (and falsely) claims to have been on the "team" that "solved" the Unabomber case. From the mailbox bombers note:

The United States strives to provide freedom for their people. Do we really have personal freedom? I've lived here for many years, and I see much limitation. Does the definition of freedom include limitation? I've learned about the history of various civilizations in history, and I see more and more limitation. Do you people enjoy this trend of limitation? If not, change it!
Uh Clint, wake up and smell the coffee. There's plenty in the note that indicates that the bomber is a foreigner, albeit one who's been here a while. Now this person could have been born in the good ol USA and faking foreign status in the letter, but the letter sure as heck makes the point that the bomber wasn't born here.

"I would suggest it's either one person or a small, small group of participants, people who have known each other for a long time or shared distrust of the government, tax issues, health issues, land use, grazing rights -- all of these would be consistent."

Grazing rights??? LOLOL !Ride 'em cowboy, Clint! All the makins of a range war I guess.....

Freepers, if Clint is the best we can expect as a behavioral consultant with his former FBI, and we get our news from Carol Ann Riha, we better hope the mail box bomber has a brother who recognizes his writing style....'cause these two aren't hittin' on much.

19 posted on 05/04/2002 8:43:02 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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It's a bunch of right wing, evil, minority and environment-oppresing whites. They threw in the lefty-sounding stuff to throw us off the track.
20 posted on 05/04/2002 8:43:05 PM PDT by Cleburne
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