Posted on 05/05/2002 8:14:09 PM PDT by WaterDragon
David Northfield, reporting Saturday morning, 04/06, on KGW-TV (Portland, OR), during tape footage of the "Palestinian" demonstration on Pioneer Square in Portland, mangled the news beautifully by just being ignorant. He didn't offer a single argument to the "Palestinian" claims. When done intentionally, this is called softball interview, and means the "journalist" favors the subject's point of view. That's called bias. When combined with a lack of interest in the facts, it's sloppy work, to boot.
I doubt if Mr. Northfield knows a single thing about the subject -- which proves he belongs in the mainstream media, where "broadcast journalist" is an oxymoron.
Here's what he should have known before airing a report on the subject. Not that he would have used it all. It's what in the news business is known as background research. Media outlets, if they are to be considered credible, must find out this sort of information before dealing with a major news topic. Just sticking a microphone in somebody's face and asking them how they feel is not enough. He could have learned what you are about to read in a half an hour on the internet, but it seems that as far as he is concerned, you aren't worth ten minutes of research.
For a long time prior to the Roman occupation adjacent to the time of Christ, the residents of the area in dispute were referred to in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible (taken from the Jewish Torah) as Canaanites. They had no connection with Islam because the religion would not be created for another thirty-five centuries, give or take a few. The Romans (probably in deference ot local custom) took to calling it "Palestinia," from which we get Palestine, but it isn't in any Latin lexicon to which I have personal or internet access. Arabic is said to have a similar word, falestyn, but no dictionary of that tongue I have found includes the term. The only internet reference to it seems to be in modern documents written in the Russian language. That's a dead end, too, because Russian dictionaries I've checked don't include it, either.
My research on the broader subject indicates that before the land was called Canaan (the Promised Land of the Torah and Old Testament), the area was made up of city states with kings -- quite similar to patterns familiar to students of Athenian/Spartan Greece. Like the inhabitants of ancient Greece, classical Rome and even a great many in modern India, the people of the land to be called Canaan were polytheists. The idea of monotheism (the worship of a single god) seems to have first developed in the tribes of Iron Age Juday, which, if my information is correct, worshipped Yaweh -- the deity today called God by Christians and Allah by Moslems...(snip)
The reason why this matters is that an Arab Mr. Northfield's camera caught on tape said that "Palestinians" have a "right" to include Jerusalem in any settlement because it is their holy capitol. Jerusalem, however, was not founded by Moslems.
It was originally called Urusalim (see historical descriptive below) by the city's earliest residents, the Jebusites. Probably most of them were Semites. (With the possible exception of the lighter-skinned, blue-eyed Circassians, all Arabs are Semitic. So are Jews.) God only knows who the Jebusites prayed to. It could have been "Shalem". Maybe a god named "Jebu". It is certain that none were Moslems. When the legendary King David won the city in battle, he renamed it after himself. Sometime after that it got its current name, which is similar to the Jebusite original but in Hebrew is a word that means "city of peace". Considering its long history of warfare, it's an ironic title....(snip)
Nothing. I'm asking questions. That's okay with you, right?
No, you are not just asking questions. You are shooting off your big mouth. What kind of arrogant a$$ hole are you to tell someone else to get off YOUR thread? Are you try to control this media? If you are looking for political correctness what are you doing at FR?
Actions have consequences, my friend, and you are the action part of this equation. What's happening in Israel today is the consequence part of similar actions. Learn to get along.
I didn't make that post. I have been attempting to get LostTribe to come back to this thread and answer a question.
"What kind of arrogant a$$ hole are you to tell someone else to get off YOUR thread?"
Again, I have done no such thing. You, however, have called me an arrogant a$$hole and a ba$tard for asking questions.
"Are you try to control this media?"
No, I'm interested in the free exchange of ideas and I'm trying to find out what someone thinks. It appears that you have a real problem with that. Too bad.
"You are shooting off your big mouth."
If you don't want me asking questions, who's trying to control this media?
No, he is not. This is Basic Biblical History 101. Anybody who has read the books of the Prophets and Chronicles, knows that the Kingdom of Israel split during the reign of King Rehaveam ben Shlomo (Rehoboam the son of Solomon) with Yeraveam ben Nevat (Jeroboam the son of Nebat) forming a new kingdom of 10 of the tribes, and Rehaveam retaining control of Judah and Benjamin. At the time of the secession, many loyalists to the House of David, and the entire Tribe of Levi (who have not lost their identity even to the present day) remained with Judah and Benjamin (who became known as "Jews" following the conquest of the lower kingdom by Nebuchadnezzar).
The upper kingdom was conquered by the Assyrians several hundred years earlier and the "10 Tribes" sent into exile. Their identity today is not known, although many different theories have been put forth, one of which (although by no means the most credible) is LT's one-note mating call.
While the identity of the "lost tribes" is a legitimate topic for debate in the Religion forum, it is irrelevant, inappropriate and downright rude to barge in on every Mideast current events threads.
Every so many decades or centuries there comes a "societal adjustment" which takes care of the problem, for a while. It's been about 70 years now, and another one seems in the making. Adults grow weary of the History Channel etc distorting history by endlessly preaching the Jewish Holocaust without showing the corresponding "Pearl Harbor" which caused it.
You are so right about actions having consequences. It is unfortunate the perps have this blind spot which cannot correlate them, thus avoid them.
skraeling, you are a liar.
There is a word for someone who interrupts every thread with the same message, whether it is remotely relevant to the topic or not. This is called SPAMMING. It doesn't matter if you are selling a product or promoting an agenda. SPAM is SPAM.
Are you suggesting that the Jews in Europe during WWII were responsible for causing their own Holocaust?
Well, I certainly don't like spam. My email is full of it these days. But in my following of Mr. Lost Tribes posts over the past few months I don't see any trace of spamming.
I've told you how helpful his posts have been to me, in forcing me to back into the Bible to check him out, where by the way I haven't found one single thing that conflicts with what he says. As far as I'm concerned, his posts are right on target. But then if someone objects to what he has to say, and doesn't like having their own facts challenged, that could influence how they feel about it.
But yes, they do. The Jews, wherever they are.
It's an important question. I await his answer. Thanks.
You refered me to the post of his that you had a problem with. That brings the issue into my perview. And I say his profile page and his prior posts have answered your question. Do a search by poster on his name and read his posts. 
Oh, this gets funnier by the minute. I think I know you from grade school. You were the whiney little kid always going to the teacher to complain about the other kids having too much fun, and nobody would wipe your nose. And no one would pay any attention to your temper tantrums. So you stomped the ground so hard you hurt your foot, which made you even madder.
I got the picture. It's just wonderful to have your high intellect and maturity here on FR.
Your refusal to retract your erroneous attributions in the face of proof shows you both to be liars.
skraeling's earlier pontifications about truth and honor are laughable.
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The proof is here in the thread for anyone who knows how to read.
The proof is here in the thread for anyone who knows how to read.
I'd have a tendency to want you to cite authority for being the seed of Abraham meaning nothing until being aware of it and admitting it. I'd also like to know how one such lives accordingly and presents themselves as such.
Don't you think God knows who His people are? And, how do you explain:
Hosea 1:
{10] Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
[11] Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.
What you have in Hosea is the foundation for a moral mandate for many nations to align themselves with Israel.
Anyone paying attention will never take anything you say seriously again after seeing this blatant refusal to display the "honor" about which skraeling pontificated earlier.
I get along well with truthful people. People who lie frequently find me to be a real pain in the neck.
It has been pointed out a few times that Chungra did not write what you keep saying he did. That is clear. Yet you persist.
If you had integrity you would apologize, but instead you call names and accuse him of acting like a child.
Now what were you saying about honor and truth? How much shame would it take to get you to apologize?
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