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New Yorker, American: (Spider-Man) film puts best spin on USA (2 great reviews)
National Review ( and Jewish World Review) ^ | 05/07/2002 & 05/10/2002 | Robert George and Michael Medved

Posted on 05/14/2002 2:31:27 PM PDT by kaylar

Note to fellow freepers : I haven't seen as much excitement over the Spider-Man film here as I saw for, Say, The Patriot, or LotR. But I saw it last night, and I thought its theme of personal responsibility would resonate well with this audience. Plus it was a lot of fun. Anyhow, these two reviews made me want to see it, so I present them for your enjoyment. If you've already seen the film, you can compare the authors' views with your memory of the film ; if you've not seen it, maybe it'll make you as eager to see it as I was after reading these two reviews. (I am not a fan of superhero comics or films.) BOTH CONTAIN SPOILERS!!!!!!

May 7, 2002 12:30 p.m.
New Yorker, American
Spider-Man has perfect timing.

National Review

(WARNING: The following column on the new Spider-Man movie contains what might be considered SPOILERS. It discusses a number of themes, scenes, and dialogue. As such, if you haven't seen it yet — a small minority, based on last weekend's box-office figures — you might want to skip the column until you have. Don't worry, we're not going anywhere.)

t's no surprise that war produces heroes. However, what seems to have gone unnoticed is that the shadows of war seem to be the breeding ground for the artistic inspiration that gives rise to the stories of fictional legend.

How else to explain that the greatest archetypal superheroes of the 20th century all emerged during times of geopolitical tension? In 1938, as Europe was becoming embroiled in an emerging threat arising from Nazi Germany two young kids from Cleveland, Ohio created their own "Username" legend. The story owed as much to the Bible as it did science fiction: A scientist and his wife, confronted with the fact that their planet is dying, launch their only child into space so he may escape their fate. It is, in its own fashion, a reworking of the Moses tale. The baby lands in the United States Midwest and is adopted by an elderly couple. The rest, as they say, is history.

It is the origin of Superman. Out of a sense of traditional American values, mixed perhaps with an inherited sense of noblesse oblige, he recognizes that he has an obligation to use his powers to protect his adopted home.

One year later — as the European situation grew even tenser, another American artist, Bob Kane produced a darker vision. A boy sees his parents murdered in the middle of a robbery and vows vengeance. The orphan becomes Batman, a hero driven by vengeance.

Three years later — mere months before the United States is attacked at Pearl Harbor — the team of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon introduce the ultimate patriotic archetype — Captain America. He's a regular, but skinny Army Joe — too weak to be on the frontlines — called Steve Rogers. He volunteers for an experiment that would make him a "super-soldier."

Perhaps not by coincidence, the creators of all of these heroes were all Jewish Americans, in their teens or early twenties. Perhaps that ethnic heritage explains the common themes of abandonment, loss of home, and the existential need to bond oneself to a greater good.

Flashing forward four decades, a metaphorical Iron Curtain is draped across Europe. In 1961, a physical partition separates East and West Berlin. It's the same year that a young American president takes office. Another year passes, and a different type of hero hits the newsstands. Like Superman and Batman, he is in orphan, though like the former he is taken in and "adopted" into a nurturing environment. Unlike Captain America, he is not in the military. He's just a high-school kid who gets bitten (in the original story) by a radioactive spider. Then, through an act of adolescent selfishness, tragedy strikes. Thus, the fourth great superhero archetype is born — driven by a guilt-induced responsibility and painfully aware of what can occur when that responsibility is ignored. His name is, of course, Spider-Man.

(Interestingly, just as the nation feared the atomic bomb in the '50s and early-60s, radioactivity of some sort figures into the creation of many of the early "Marvel" comic book heroes. Cosmic rays create the Fantastic Four; gamma rays produce the Incredible Hulk; a radioactive canister gives the blind Daredevil extra senses; radiation at the cellular level produces the mutant X-Men, etc.)

Like his World War II era counterparts, Spider-Man would also have Jewish lineage in writer Stan Lee. The background of Spidey's co-creator, Steve Ditko, is somewhat shrouded in mystery though the Pennsylvania-born artist is said to have eastern European parents.

This back-story is particularly notable because, as the Spider-Man movie emerges, war and rumors of war fill the American psyche to a degree not seen in decades. At the end of the film, the wall crawler lands upon a flagpole bearing a huge American flag. The feeling conveyed is obvious. Comic books — especially the superhero trope — are a unique part of Americana and the blue-red-webbed hero is part of that tradition. The scene is reminiscent of the end of the first Superman movie as the Man of Steel flies off holding a flagpole with Old Glory unfurled.

But, more than that, Spider-Man is an American hero — a human being — born of a particular American moment. In this movie, the newly gifted teenage Peter Parker, after having beaten up the school bully something proper, is told by his uncle that he is now at the age when "a man changes into the man he'll become for the rest of his life." Ben Parker — though unaware of his nephew's super-talents — nonetheless tries to impress upon him that can't just go around beating up bullies. Whatever gifts he has must be put it to a worthy purpose.

But, remember, this is a Kennedy-era creation. The words "with great power comes great responsibility" were originally written barely a year after the nation's brand-new commander-in-chief vowed in his inaugural address to "pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." Months after those words were spoken, America began its full involvement in Vietnam.

How the phrase "with great power comes great responsibility" takes on brand new context in these uncertain early moments of the 21st century.

Spider-Man always has been the quintessential New Yorker. In fact, it is an eerie feeling, watching Spider-Man swing through a fairly accurate on-screen depiction of the Big Apple. It's not just Manhattan. Queens houses look like Queens houses. Soho diners look like Soho diners. Yet, it is that faithfulness that reality makes it difficult to watch. As much as one is drawn into the amazing fantasy taking place on the screen, the post-9/11 consciousness forces inevitable questions to perk up. How can those celluloid New Yorkers — having been caught in the middle of two super beings tearing up Times Square — stop to applaud Spider-Man's coming to the "rescue"? There are buildings falling down around them!

However, in the movie's most satisfying scene, the hero finds himself high above the Queensboro Bridge. The Goblin challenges Spider-Man to decide whom to save — his girlfriend or innocent kids in a cable car. "We are who we choose to be," mocks the Goblin as he drops his would be victims off the bridge. The words seem be an almost intentional contrast to Ben Parker's observation to Peter Parker. The Goblin has made his choice. He has chosen power — without responsibility.

The hero, of course, rejects the false "choice" thrust upon him and goes to save all of the Goblin's victims — just as the villain zeroes in for the kill. But then, the tables are turned! In a perfect inversion of the paradigm, Spider-Man himself is saved as a crowd starts throwing things at the Goblin, distracting him just long enough. "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us," screams one New Yorker; it's the "Let's roll" moment — unexpected, yet perfectly exhilarating. Consider too that the vituperative Daily Bugle publisher J. Jonah Jameson has decided that he can sell more newspapers pushing the idea that Spider-Man is a criminal in league with the Green Goblin. In siding with Spider-Man, the crowd implicitly rejects the media manipulation.

They know who their hero is; they know who the good guy is. But in helping to save him, the average New Yorker manages to become a hero too. It is fitting, as the hero happens, powers aside, to be an average guy. After saving the innocents, he then goes to extinguish the evil that is the Goblin. How can any great power do less?

The message of that scene is that we can't just depend on our "heroes" to be perfect and save our society. All Americans — not just the "heroes" — have to recognize that there are such things as sacrifice involved as great power is wielded. Humility is a virtue that must be mastered and arrogance a vice that must be tempered. America, as a great nation with great power must exercise great responsibility. But, even those without "great power" manage to do something great — or even merely "good" — just through basic human decency.

These are the lessons from Spider-Man. The character is celebrating its 40th anniversary, but like any true archetypal hero, he always shows up at just the right time with just the right message. The superhero reminds us what being American is all about.

Review Number two

Film puts best spin on USA

Jewish World review

http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | This weekend's record-smashing box-office gross for the new movie Spider-Man removed any lingering doubts as to the identity of America's No. 1 cinematic superhero. The Wondrous Web Spinner ruled the multiplex (with an unprecedented $114 million in ticket sales) because he remains the most quintessentially American of all classic comic-book creations - offering a revitalizing vision of national identity that's especially appropriate at this moment of danger and doubt.

After Sept. 11, Americans listened to millions of angry people around the Islamic world expressing their resentment toward this country as a bastion of arrogance and privilege. Spider-Man, on the other hand, speaks to our eternal identification with underdogs. Yes, he reminds us of our almost freakish power, but also of our vulnerability and our stubborn determination.

Peter Parker, the outcast teenager (and orphan) who is ultimately transformed into the Wall-Crawling Wonder, represents the kind of hapless, hopeless Everyman we have always embraced. As portrayed by Tobey Maguire in the film, he resembles other adolescent loners and losers, nursing a preposterous crush on the prettiest girl in his high school. In the grand tradition of F. Scott Fitzgerald's Jay Gatsby, this gawky youth single-mindedly focuses on lifting himself to heroic, larger-than-life status to impress a glamorous, unattainable female.

The comic-book character, in other words, emerges as a classic American striver. No wonder our most enduring image of this national hero shows him painstakingly crawling up a wall. He doesn't wear a cape, and he can't fly, but he'll do whatever it takes to better himself.

From Horatio Alger to Rocky Balboa, we've always cherished this sort of determination on the part of the downtrodden. Abraham Lincoln remains the most exemplary American icon because of his impoverished, log-cabin past, and even Bill Clinton derived great political strength from his famously disadvantaged origins in Hope, Ark. This is our preferred version of the All-American Boy - not some self-assured, muscle-flexing superman (or Superman), but an eager, aspiring outsider.

Although other superheroes face their own challenges, none exemplifies this homespun, upwardly mobile trajectory in the same way that Spidey does. The Superman story remains an immigrant saga: The Man of Steel is, after all, a "strange visitor from another planet, with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men." Like most newcomers to this country, he tries to assimilate in both Smallville and Metropolis, but remains decidedly, inescapably alien, as that big "S" on his chest reminds us.

Batman, meanwhile, touches on another important archetype: the selfless aristocrat with the common touch (think Franklin Roosevelt or maybe even George W. Bush). Bruce Wayne could enjoy his life of comfort and glamour in "stately Wayne manor," but he puts privilege aside to serve the imperiled populace as the Caped Crusader.

At a time when this nation's colossal power - military, economic and cultural - easily dominates the world, the unprecedented popularity of Spider-Man (a character created 40 years ago) should cast clear light on the true and constant heart of America. Envious foreign multitudes may see a brawny bully, but that has never been the way we see ourselves.

We remain, in our own eyes, perpetual upstarts, climbers and romantics, granted superior abilities through a freakish combination of accident and aspiration. The angry mobs in foreign capitals, the suicidal terrorists and their sophisticated sympathizers, can denounce Americans as lazy, arrogant, reckless and spoiled, but this ugly vision contradicts the common experience of those who live here. We see instead a nation of hardworking, ambitious but stubbornly decent people of every ethnic and economic background. America haters besmirch this nation as representative of some domineering international elite, but most citizens understand that this is still a country where a lonely computer geek (as clueless as Peter Parker himself) can become a billionaire entrepreneur, a supermarket checkout girl may emerge as an Oscar-winning actress, or a teenage part-time janitor in Harlem will eventually represent the nation as secretary of State.

Opportunity and mobility remain American realities, not mere fantasies from the pages of Marvel comics. Spider-Man connects with this point in our natural pageant because it reassures us that unlike the aristocratic, power-mad, nihilistic Green Goblins of this world (Osama, anyone?), we intend to use our potent options to benefit ordinary people everywhere. As Peter Parker's wise, hardworking Uncle Ben pointedly reminded him - and the rest of us: "With great power comes great responsibility."


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I searched for both articles under their full, original title. Didn't find either, so....

If you liked the JWR review, please click on the link to read the full text : I shortened it slightly to encourage 'hits' on their site.

The film was a real treat, especially after my miserable week : MO has been under flood warnings for days, and my sump pump quit on me . My basement had an inch of water in it from wall to wall. I lost about half my comic book collection.

1 posted on 05/14/2002 2:31:27 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: kaylar
Good reviews, and well deserved.
2 posted on 05/14/2002 2:38:23 PM PDT by Polonius
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To: Polonius
I enjoyed the film even though the people beside me and a family behind me both brought toddlers too young to understand and enjoy the film. They didn't cry, but they babbled throughout the film....loudly, and neither set of parents tried to shush them, as my momma most certainly did if I acted up at a film (not that she allowed me to go with them to the movies till I was in Kindergarten.) That my DH and I both enjoyed the film under those circumstances is a true tribute to it...and my DH has zero interest in comics or superheroes, and he liked it anyway!

I think it's interesting the way both reviewers "picked up" on the differences in the superhero archtypes, and related them to changing views of America and its role.

In any case, it's a decent film and I encourage any freeper wondering if it's worth the time to check it out.

3 posted on 05/14/2002 2:45:09 PM PDT by kaylar
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Big 'ol and I saw it...twice and loved it...twice. It has a great moral message and is the ultimate 'geeky-kid' fantasy flick. It was great visually and used computer effects well. (Not one of those "look we can do CGI!" films with gratuitous effects for the sake of having more effects than the last blockbuster.) Dafoe is a delicious villian, MacGuire is adorable. Dunst I could do without and some of the 'tender-moment' lines were lame. But bottom line, it is a fantastic family film. I'm glad it's making money, maybe Hollywood will realize that there's a market for feel-good family films.
4 posted on 05/14/2002 3:27:54 PM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
Does anyone know of any conservative movies out there?
5 posted on 05/14/2002 3:30:59 PM PDT by ACAC
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Do you mean currently in theaters? There's one coming up that sounds interesting "Minority Report". From the previews it seems as if it's an updated "Logan Run" (flick from the 70s). Instead of exploring the overpopulation theme, the story will center around the idea of being guilty of thinking a crime and having a police force intervene before the crime is committed. Sure its got Tom Cruise in it and a host of other liberal hollywood wackos. but as the hollywood types make 'make-believe' their life, who cares what they think in reality? As if they know the difference.
6 posted on 05/14/2002 3:43:07 PM PDT by Lil'freeper
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I believe Michael Medved himself once ran the figures and proved that G and PG films do better box office and make more money than do R films. The preference at the studios for R films has less to do with profits, and more to do with their desire to be seen by their peers as provocative artistes , with all the pretentiousness that that suggests.
7 posted on 05/14/2002 3:45:48 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: Lil'freeper
a great moral message and is the ultimate 'geeky-kid' fantasy flick. It was great visually...Dafoe is a delicious villian, MacGuire is adorable. Dunst I could do without...it is a fantastic family film. I'm glad it's making money, maybe Hollywood will realize that there's a market for feel-good family films.

I agree with everything you said, except about Dunst. I thought she was exquisitely adorable. Should've been Gwen, but still a splendid movie.

8 posted on 05/14/2002 5:09:42 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: kaylar
I lost about half my comic book collection.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I've been thinking about moving my collection (~30,000) downstairs, but I won't now.

Thanks for posting these reviews. As a huge (and old) Spidey/Marvel fanboy, I've been reading all the reviews, and these were among the best.

9 posted on 05/14/2002 5:13:19 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: ACAC
Does anyone know of any conservative movies out there?

Big Jim McLain

10 posted on 05/14/2002 5:17:09 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: kaylar
Went to see this movie with my husband and teenage son. I was the only one who thought it wasn't awful. The script is weak and the special effects aren't special but it's an OK movie.

We've seen many more movies this year than we have in years. It's a good year for movies.

11 posted on 05/14/2002 5:27:42 PM PDT by Varda
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My teenage sons (17, 15 and 12) LOVED this movie, as did I. It was a lot of fun.
12 posted on 05/14/2002 5:33:08 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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Yeah thats' the reaction I expected. It seems like a good kids movie. The geek factor in my family is pretty high and I guess they couldn't let go of certain defects in the film.
13 posted on 05/14/2002 5:44:59 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda
I'm looking forward to Two Towers . I don't know if this means anything, but I noticed that the trailer said, 'Coming Christmas 2002'. So many businesses and schools today act like "Christmas" is an obscene word (Holiday season or winter holidays being the preferred substitute) that it actually struck me as surprising that the ad campaign specifically said Christmas instead of late December.
14 posted on 05/14/2002 5:46:22 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: be-baw
I read 'em last week, saw the movie last night-and spent three hours this AM trying to locate them again for rereading in light of seeing the film! The National Review one I found quickly, but the JWR one...Couldn't remember to save my life where I read it. Glad you enjoyed them.
15 posted on 05/14/2002 5:48:36 PM PDT by kaylar
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To: ValerieUSA
I think they did a pretty good job of 'updating' the origin story (recombinant DNA being a 'hot' topic), as well as merging the two characters Gwen Stacy/Mary Jane Watson. And they set up the stage for the sequel pretty well : Obviously MJ realized at the very end that Peter Parker/Spider-Man are the same person, and if she has any brain cells, she'll remember what the GG said about 'the woman you (s-m) love', and understand why Peter wants to be just friends...It's to protect her from the crazies he's gonna attract. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that the sequel (2004) will end with MJ and PP married, as they've been in the comics since the 1980s. And I'm already looking forward to it.
16 posted on 05/14/2002 5:54:20 PM PDT by kaylar
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Now you've done it. The Two Towers is what I'm waiting for this year. I have the long bootleg trailer downloaded onto my hardrive. It just says "This Christmas", "The Journey Continues", "The Two Towers", no date.

My husband is a major LOTR freak. After his dissapointment with Spider-man we went to see LOTR again. He's seen it something like 18 times. (I'm only up to 12)

17 posted on 05/14/2002 5:56:32 PM PDT by Varda
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To: be-baw
Lost all my Jonah Hexes(had most of them, from Weird Western to the self titled to the new Vertigo miniseries) ; all my HP Lovecraft comics, all my Heritage Press civil war comics, all my DC horror comics from the 1970s (House of Mystery, House of Secrets, Witching Hour, Unexpected), first purchased as a child....

I'm moving what's left upstairs.

18 posted on 05/14/2002 5:59:28 PM PDT by kaylar
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"I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that the sequel (2004) will end with MJ and PP married, as they've been in the comics since the 1980s."

This is good because his sacrifice at the end of the movie didn't make any sense. After all his aunt mentions that everyone knows he's in love with MJ.

19 posted on 05/14/2002 6:02:14 PM PDT by Varda
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Word of advise (which I pass along because I nearly made this mistake):P. DON'T buy the LotR DVD or VHS which will be out in July. The one to wait for will be out in November. The later one has many more extras than the one that'll be out in a few weeks -which I'm renting from Blockbuster to tide me over, but I'm not gonna pay cash for it when the one in Autumn has 30 minutes of deleted scenes!!!

I liked S-M a lot, but I'll admit it did get slow here and there.(Of course, I was distracted by the two babbling childrebn...arrgh!) Now, LotR I loved, but many people thought it was slow and confusing. Ha! Wait'll they see Two Towers ! They'll see the action for which the first book (and film) set the stage.

I'm gonna go out on another limb and predict that in 2004 Peter Jackson will either get the Oscar for RoTK, or a special achievement oscar for the entire trilogy.

20 posted on 05/14/2002 6:06:54 PM PDT by kaylar
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