Ruling Upholds Firing on Basis of Religion

L.A. Times ^ | My 17, 2002 | MAURA DOLAN

[Bella_Bru]

SAN FRANCISCO -- Religious institutions cannot be held liable for discriminating against employees on the basis of religion, the California Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday.

The state high court threw out a lawsuit by an evangelical Christian who was fired from a Catholic medical foundation after he proselytized to other employees.

[SouthernFreebird]

I don't get it? He worked for a religious company..... he was religious, and was fired for being religious at his religious work place? what did I miss?

[k2blader]

Steven Drapkin, who represented a religious freedom organization in the case, said the decision shows that the court realizes that the "breadth of a religious organization's mission is not limited to houses of worship."

Let's hope they realize this in a non-selective manner.

[meenie]

Preaching to the choir is wrong if you are not a member of that church. You could even get fired if you are an employee. Hmm. Seems reasonable.

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

California Supreme Court: Catholic Group Justified in Firing Protestant Employee

[sneakypete]

I don't get it? He worked for a religious company..... he was religious, and was fired for being religious at his religious work place? what did I miss?

What you missed is that he is from a more fundie cult than Catholism,and he was getting in their faces and telling them they were going to hell unless they converted to HIS cult. You have no idea how obnoxious these SOB's can be untill you have to deal with one yourself. Politely telling them you don't share their beliefs and asking them to leave you alone doesn't work. Neither does being rude and telling them to shut the hell up. Your only real option is to resort to violence,or the sincere threat of violence.

[sneakypete]

Preaching to the choir is wrong if you are not a member of that church. You could even get fired if you are an employee. Hmm. Seems reasonable.

I agree.

[Senator Pardek]

This has more to do with capitalism than religion. One should be free to engage in commerce with whomever one chooses.

Unfortunately, if this lowlife was gay, he'd have won. I'll take any victory, however...

[nomad]

You missed the fact that a religious organization does not have to provide a forum for a supporter of another religion to proselytize in. Would you be so confounded by this decision if that person was a proselytizing satanist or a wiccan? Or do you believe that all religious organizations should be forcibly opened to recruitment, by the courts, to any group regardless of their religious tenets? If so say good-by to freedom of religion.

[k2blader]

Simply hoping that if/when a Muslim employee is fired from a private Catholic organization under similar circumstances, the court will have the same opinion as below.

Secular employers can still be held liable for religious discrimination, but religions need "considerable discretion to choose employees who will not interfere with their religious mission," Justice Carlos R. Moreno wrote for the court.

[k2blader]

Agreed.

[RWG]

The correct dogma.

[Thundergod]

Today's Statements from Sneakeypete:
FR has become the haven of group-think.
I don't think religion is bad,I think it is evil.

DISRUPTOR ALERT!

Sneakeypete has stated his distain for both the FR and religion, so he comes here only to agitate and disrupt. He has nothing helpful or intelligent to offer.

[sneakypete]

. He has nothing helpful or intelligent to offer.

And how would YOU be in a position to determine either?

BTW,if you were bright enough to have checked,I've been around here a LOT longer than you have. Then again,if you were very bright,you wouldn't be you.

[Bella_Bru]

Sneakpete is not a disruptor. You've been here a month. You'll find that not everyone on FR is religious, and of those that all, not all are Christian.

[Bella_Bru]

Sorry about the repost.

[Bella_Bru]

a patient objected that Silo had been "preaching" to him.

Most employers have a strict 'no solicitation' policy. You don't go trying to sell another product (in this case, a denomination) to customers of your business.

[Bella_Bru]

Interesting how numbnuts has been here a month and can decide who is and isn't a disruptor, isn't it? Perhaps he was nuked under his old screen name and just didn't get the hit.

[Rowdee]

Why don't you get over yourself!!! Just who died and left you in charge?

If you weren't such a pompous ass, you might take it upon yourself to learn a little something about sneakypete, or any other FReeper, before you start pulling your BS game, newbie!

Wow! Got to tell some pompous ass off and use the word 'newbie', too!!!

[GuillermoX]

Are you Dan Morgan?