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STRIP MOM UPDATE: Quit 'Real Estate Job' To Strip, Once Taught Sunday School, Says She Hid Truth!
San Francisco Chronicle -"Christian school expels stripper's daughter" ^ | May 17, 2002 | Ray Delgado

Posted on 05/17/2002 6:04:34 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: clintonh8r
Whatever!
81 posted on 05/17/2002 7:19:55 PM PDT by 100%FEDUP
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Here is a WND article.

Quoting from it...""Although school officials see the mother's job as a stripper as a clear violation of her signed commitment, automatic termination of the relationship was not an option for them," said Hagelin. "The pastor and school attempted to help the mother better her life, and offered her financial, spiritual and emotional support."

The SFC has an obvious and understandable ax to grind in this issue.

82 posted on 05/17/2002 7:20:30 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: etcetera
Now what would Jesus do?

Think you know? Enlighten us.

83 posted on 05/17/2002 7:22:40 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: 100%FEDUP
That's a bunch of crap. Like I said, there is nothing inherently immoral in being a lawyer, executive or politician. There is in being a hooker or stripper.
84 posted on 05/17/2002 7:22:40 PM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: Balding_Eagle
Sorry, but that just isn't going to be good enough for some here.
85 posted on 05/17/2002 7:22:41 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: 100%FEDUP
My whole point is things that motivate strippers is the exact same thing that motivates politicians, lawyers and executives and that is money, power and influence.

Well, first off, your argument is illogical because I've nver heard of a stripper who is motivated by power & influence.

And I can hardly believe as a poster to this board you would begrudge someone who is motivated to do their job for money. By the way, what is your motivation for work -- the joy of a job well done? And what portion of your job is devoted to "pro bono" work? Most lawyers do a great deal of "free" work, work that is also devoid of "power and influence."

Your comments are unsupported and unfair to the legal profession. I sincerely hope you never find yourself unjustly accused in our legal system.

86 posted on 05/17/2002 7:23:35 PM PDT by Boatlawyer
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To: GuillermoX
Give up. Reason isn't on the agenda tonight.
87 posted on 05/17/2002 7:23:57 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
What has the child done that she deserves to be so punished. Was the school willing to help the mother financially....

Yes, they were.

Now, does that change your opinion?

88 posted on 05/17/2002 7:24:56 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: GuillermoX
Like I said, there is nothing inherently immoral in being a lawyer, executive or politician. There is in being a hooker or stripper.

What is immoral about being a stripper?

89 posted on 05/17/2002 7:25:02 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: Tennessee_Bob
There's a thing called personal responsibility. She knew the rules and signed an agreement at the time of enrollment. The church/school offered to care for the tuition and find her another job. The school went out of their way to help her in her time of financial need. Very admirable. She chose to refuse it. As a result her daughter lost her spot in enrollment. It's not as if she didn't know it would happen. The school offered full disclosure of what would happen given her choice selection.
90 posted on 05/17/2002 7:25:39 PM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: jlogajan
"As I say, as an atheist I am always pleased when the church drives people away. It's a competitive interest. :-)"

Actually I think they simply need to find a better grade of church. Not all Christians would punish a five year old for something her mother does.

91 posted on 05/17/2002 7:26:45 PM PDT by monday
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Interesting questions you raise.

Harder to answer because, generally, society holds the attorney in higher regard than the stripper. Because of that, it would be harder to treat the attorney the same way. Greater threat of lawsuit also would enter into my calculation.

However, if the issues are as clear as they are here, the treatment should be the same. And frankly, after seeing the pastor/principal/whatever position he has on TV, I think he would, because he's up to it.

92 posted on 05/17/2002 7:26:57 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: homeschool mama
The church/school offered to care for the tuition and find her another job. The school went out of their way to help her in her time of financial need. Very admirable.

Then again, she could have turned down help from the church, quit work, and gone on welfare. After all, the government loves to help folks too. Would that be as admirable?

If there's any truth to what the mother said regarding her being told that they're no longer welcome there - then the church deserves no admiration at all. But hey - she's a stripper - can't trust her, can we? A church wouldn't lie to cover its backside, would it?

93 posted on 05/17/2002 7:29:09 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: RJCogburn
What is immoral about being a stripper?

Ask Christina Silvas. She knows. That's why she didn't tell anybody.

If you still can't grasp it, click here.

94 posted on 05/17/2002 7:29:23 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: monday
The child is not being punished. She has no inherent right to attend any particular private school.
95 posted on 05/17/2002 7:29:51 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: homeschool mama
She was given options and fair warning. She knew the 'rules' and signed an agreement when enrolling her daughter. Read post 47 then give your opinion.

OK, I read #47. My opinion didn't change though.

The school should be free to do whatever they want, I don't dispute that. It's their school...their rules.

I've a question:

If the Mom was an alcoholic, drug or gambling addict...would you say a Christian school, although within it's legal rights, was morally consistent with the Bible if they expelled the little girl?

96 posted on 05/17/2002 7:31:32 PM PDT by jla
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To: L.N. Smithee
As a private (non-tax dollar funded school) It has every right to deny whomever for whatever at any time. They have a reputation to uphold by following what they believe Biblically and so should their students and parents believe and live the same. It's the schools business and duty to do so.

This mother claims to instill the same values into her daughter that the school teaches, but yet leads a life that is so far off of what the child is learning at this school. Yes, I certainly pity this child for her inept mother.

97 posted on 05/17/2002 7:31:42 PM PDT by hope
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To: L.N. Smithee
Sorry, but with all due respect parroting Biblical verse doesn't convince me.
98 posted on 05/17/2002 7:32:32 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
It purposefully causes others to sin. If you read the Bible, you'll see that concept. Now, if you don't believe in Biblical morality, start your own school instead of demanding that a Christian church disregard the Bible.
99 posted on 05/17/2002 7:32:51 PM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: Thundergod
...As I say, as an atheist I am always pleased when the church drives people lowlife scumbags away"...

Well, aren't you just special.....setting yourself up as the Judge.....you should read Romans 1 and 2 as it regards judging.

100 posted on 05/17/2002 7:33:27 PM PDT by Rowdee
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