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American Fascism
The Laissez Faire City Times ^ | Feb. 8, 1999 | Ace

Posted on 05/21/2002 10:21:23 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

American Fascism

by Ace

You’re all a bunch of Fascists! At least that's what the left keeps calling everyone who attempts to reason from the classical conservative perspective.

But the issue of who is a Fascist can't be addressed by any measure from the modern philosophical left because their fundamental tenet is the lie. For them, that’s the first principle of the art of war. They use it, they excuse it, and they in fact worship at its feet. They are the masters of deception, the political prestidigitators of the modern age. War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength. And one of the truly clever feats of magic the left has perpetrated was convincing John and Jane Q. Public that Fascism is necessarily a product of the popular definition of the "far right."

"Clinton's an unusually good liar. Unusually good. Do you realize that?"

—Senator Bob Kerrey, as Chairman of the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, Esquire Magazine, January 1996

And of course we can argue definitions from now to eternity and never get anywhere if we reason from the contemporary post-modern perspective. Whether we use the Nolan analysis to determine political positioning, the French memory of left and right chambers of government, or the anarchy-to-dictatorship continuum, we still wallow around in the rhetoric of abstraction. In the real world of non-revisionist history, the problem of politics has always been the diametric polarization of the individual and a governing elite. It's been a battle over who has ownership of human rights––who possesses innate sovereignty––the individual or the state. And the state has most often won this argument by virtue of either deception or sheer force.

"The use of the word ‘royalty,’ as fee to a proprietor for the exploitation of a work or property, derives from the period when the sovereign assumed title to all wealth of the realm. It was the struggle for freedom from these encroachments of the state that chiefly marked the Nineteenth Century, and established everywhere constitutional regimes of limited authority. In the Twentieth Century, however, we have witnessed a gradual and almost unrestricted movement back to state authoritarianism, primarily in the economic sphere, accompanied by the spread of state monopoly and intervention."––Elgin Groseclose, Money and Man: A Survey of the Monetary Experience

Groseclose was right. But since he wrote that back in 1961, the advocates of the Collectivist State have significantly expanded their hold on power beyond the economic sphere. Almost daily they claim eminent ownership of some new aspect of our lives. While they're still perfectly willing to license these plundered liberties back to us as a privilege and for a fee, the bipartisan, politically correct, authoritarian American left has finally begun to behave like the Fascists they actually are. But we dare not admit this openly, for the phenomenon of mass denial has become our very own sacred cow. Don’t touch it. Don’t question it. Just do it. So trudging along through the lowland of cultural mediocrity, most on the Democratic left are no longer even aware of the grand deception, or that others before have made almost the same miscalculation. And also completely buried in the doctrinal deception, a majority of those on the Republican right also have no idea they have long subscribed to the same paradigm. They smugly deny that the illusory quagmire of collectivist quicksand has dragged down the minds of great individuals with an almost blind indifference.

Responding in ignorance and addicted to the fraud of the "free lunch," the public has taken to opposing the only prescription in history that has ever even remotely remedied Fascism, which in fact is the traditional American conservatism of the classical constitutional republic. That is the ideology of the so called "far right," where the individual makes the sovereign claim to all basic human rights, and empowers the collective state only by consent and practical limitation to manage, police, and protect those rights.

Fascism: Any program for setting up and centralizing an autocratic regime with severely authoritarian politics exercising regulation of industry, commerce and finance, rigid censorship, and forcible oppression of opposition.Webster's Unabridged Dictionary

Writing in The New Australian on January 24th, 1999, James Henry noted that, "The state of American education being what it is, the vast majority of people are totally incapable of recognizing a fascist economic program, even when it is used to slap them in the face. This is because they have not been taught that fascism means state direction of the economy, cradle to grave ‘social security’, complete control of education, government intervention in every nook and cranny of the economy — and the belief that the individual belongs to the state."

And just in case you think you aren't included in that latter chattel, consider that the popular expression used to describe labor these days is human resources. Members of the executive committee of the White House Health Project under Hillary Clinton's failed effort to monopolize medicine were even excited about proposals for the mandatory implantation of livestock identification micro chips in your body. If you didn't submit you wouldn't qualify for any licensed health care. Now admit it. Weren't there any myopic advocates on the left that even momentarily felt like sheep at that proposal?

And in a January 26, 1999 piece for WorldNetDaily, Joseph Farah wrote in "Moving Toward a Police State" that, "President Clinton has declared more 'states of national emergency' than any of his predecessors. And he's done it in an era he boasts about as the freest, most peaceful and most prosperous time in recent American history. President Clinton has issued more executive orders than any of his predecessors. His top aides have even boasted of using them as a political strategy to go over the heads of the legislative branch of government. ‘Stroke of the pen, law of the land,’ boasted Paul Begala of the plan. ‘Pretty cool, huh?’"

Pretty cool all right. If there's any sensible readers from the left still with us, they're probably beginning to squirm uncomfortably by now. So let's step back and broaden our perspective. Where do we get the word Fascism anyway? Isn’t it associated with the Roman "fasces," the bundle of wooden rods covering the battleaxe Roman magistrates used as a symbol of their authority? And wasn’t Benito Mussolini the man who took as his symbol the "fasces" of classical Rome, and in doing so gave the modern world the term, "Fascism"? And what was the political slant of Mussolini? Was he a republican constitutional conservative, a product of the "far right?" Or was he a socialist like Adolph Hitler?

"At first the claims of the propaganda were so impudent that people thought it insane; later, it got on people's nerves; and in the end, it was believed." —Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

Liberal revisionists insist that Mussolini was a product of the political "right wing." In fact, there’s strong indication that he was for years an orthodox Marxist, who (like Hitler) came to power through democratic means. His dictum was "Everything for the State, nothing outside the State, nothing above the State." So it’s a little unnerving that the symbol of the fasces also appeared on the reverse of the "Winged Head of American Liberty" or "Mercury" dime in 1916. That just about coincides with the period the Marxist tenet of progressive income tax became an American institution and the Federal Reserve Corporation was inserted as a central banking monopoly inside the American banking system. The schizophrenic symbolism of the Liberty Head obverse and the fasces reverse on that design of the American 10-cent coin reflects the very disturbance of opposing forces in American culture that we are discussing.

And what do we really remember of Mussolini and Hitler from today’s university history? Do we remember that socialist icon George Bernard Shaw highly praised Mussolini for his collectivist policies, or that the venerable Mahatma Gandhi called him a "superman?" Gandhi's term became the catchword description of Mussolini for the cultural elite of his day. And we’ve forgotten that the chairman of the U.S. House Foreign Relations Committee told his colleagues in 1926 that Mussolini "is something new and vital . . . It will be a great thing not only for Italy but for all of us if he succeeds." And we for some reason can’t remember that in the 1930's prominent banker Otto Kahn said that the world owes Hitler "a debt of gratitude." Or that Arnold Toynbee thought he was a "man of peace," or that the French intellectual Andre Gide said that he "behaves like a genius . . . Soon even those he vanquishes will feel compelled . . . to admire him." Neither can academia recall that in 1934 the president of Hunter College in America declared that Hitler was "destined to go down to history as a cross between Hotspur and Uncle Toby and to be as immortal as either."

 

Well, Hitler went down to immortal history all right. That much we all agree on.

And yet, in a fit of modern denial, collectivist apologists compulsively and erroneously distance themselves from the age of Neville Chamberlain. They blithely forget the doublespeak of Giovanni Gentile, one of Fascist Italy's leading philosophers stating that, "The maximum of liberty coincides with the maximum of state force." Once again they fail to remember that Mussolini's thesis was: "If historic fact exists it is this, that all of the history of men's civilization, from the caves to civilized or so-called civilized man, is a progressive limitation of liberty." Somehow our educational system fails to remind them that the collectivist advocate Herbert Matthews, a New York Times writer who was instrumental in bringing Castro to power in Cuba, claimed that he was "an enthusiastic admirer of Fascism."

The quasi-intellectuals of the left boldly proclaimed that the 1996 Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole was a "Fascist" for criticizing violent, sexist rap music. But don’t ever point out that Mussolini was fundamentally a socialist, or make any reference to Hitler at all. For if you do, they insist that you lose the argument by default. Then they either smugly pick up their toys and march home, or arrogantly shout you down.

Sorry, kids, but Fascism is historically associated with National Socialism, and National Socialism was a centralized, collectivist federal authority. Fascism is an institution of statism, and unbridled statism is antithetical to the true conservative thought of those on the "right." And as much as tight-eyed crypto-Marxist intellectuals on the collectivist American left many try to deny it, Marxism is unbridled statism.

"Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same." —Nobel laureate Friedrich A. Hayek

F. A. Voigt, after years of close observation as a foreign correspondent prior to and during WW2, wrote that, "Marxism has led to Fascism and National Socialism, because, in all essentials, it is Fascism and National Socialism." After spending twelve years in Russia as an American correspondent only to have his own socialist ideals shattered, W. H. Chamberlin concluded "socialism is certainly to prove . . . the road not to freedom, but to dictatorship and counter-dictatorships, to civil war of the fiercest kind." According to author John Toland, Hitler himself said, "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic . . . system." But the children of the lie, those on the modern left, know that perfectly well. The idolaters of the collectivist icons Emperor Clinton and Empress Hildabeast just want the next collectivist dictatorship to end up under their control. Their god is power, not truth.

"We are the priests of power-do not forget this, Winston-always there will be the intoxication of power . . . If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face––forever." —O'Brien, Inner Party member of the collectivist oligarchy and brain washing specialist in the final scene of Orwell's 1984

Can't you hear them barking, "Oh, but get real! We’re not National Socialists. We’re International Socialists!" Well––excuse me. But if we rub the sleep from our pretty little eyes, what do we remember of International Socialism? Besides Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim Ill Sung of course. I know, I know. It’s bad enough to have brought Mussolini and Hitler into the argument, but completely unfair to bring the litany of International Socialists into the picture as well. For years, if you dared to point out liberal inconsistencies by analogy to certain historic personalities, your own argument was painted an ad hominem, illogical appeal to passion. But the times are a-changing.

Even ultra-liberal Jewish Harvard law professor and O.J. Simpson defender, Alan Dershowitz, publicly stated before an assembly at Yale that he'd defend Adolph Hitler. Furthermore, he insisted, he'd win. So relax and consider concert pianist Balint Bazsony, author of America’s 30 Year War. He survived not only National Socialism under the Germans, but International Socialism under the Stalinists as well. And here’s what he tells us about his years in America after escaping collectivist Hungary.

"During the late 1960s, I watched in despair as my brilliantly gifted [American] piano students suddenly began to speak as if someone had replaced their brains with prerecorded tapes. They spoke in phrases—repeated mechanically—which were neither the product of, nor accessible to, intelligent consideration. At first, these tapes seemed to contain only a few slogans about "love and peace." Fruitful conversation became impossible, but that was merely regrettable. The situation became alarming when the "tapes" began to include words and phrases that had become familiar to me in Hungary during the Nazi and Soviet occupations, and which contributed to the reasons for my decision to escape. Worse yet, the words and phrases were soon followed by practices of similar pedigree.

"Reactionary," "exploitation," "oppressor and oppressed," and "redistribution" were some of the words taken straight from the Marxist repertoire. The term "politically correct" first came to my attention through the writings of Anton Semionovich Makarenko, Lenin’s expert on education. Adolf Hitler preferred the version "socially correct." Then came the affirmative action forms which classified people by ancestry—first signed into law in Nazi Germany—and the preferential treatment of specific categories, introduced by the Stalinist government in 1950."

That’s all very well and good, but Bazsony's students were just children of the sixties. So be serious. What could America under Liberal Democracy possibly have in common with the Fascist, dictatorial policies of National or International Socialism? Well not much, I suppose. Unless you include centrally monopolized banking, militantly enforced progressive income tax, the involuntary military draft, affirmative action for special cultural, racial, or political groups, oppressive regulation of the environment, oppressive regulation of business, oppressive regulation of commerce, a call to national service, a call for a national identity system, a call for nationally monopolized health care, a progressively intense call for a ban on private ownership of firearms, a call for state assisted euthanasia, a call for legalizing post-partum infanticide (can you imagine people dragging their toddlers down to the "State Euthanasia Center for Baal Worshipers," complaining that "this brat’s got a bad attitude?"), a call for a national police force with Pentagon assistance, the creation of statutes by centralized executive order, nationalized public education emphasizing radical collectivist and politically correct propaganda, a centralized and progressively unaccountable central government, personal and real asset forfeiture for all manner of infraction, interest bearing State-monopolized fiat money, a two-tiered legal system (one emphasizing an apologetic waiver for cultural icons and bureaucrats on the left, and quite another for "conservatives" on the right and the common man), a phalanx of central ministry "alphabet soup" agencies attacking everyone from licensed physicians to health food store proprietors, political assassination, government cover-ups, Gramscian destruction of dissenting traditional culture, disregard for the constitutional rule of law by the appeal of popular propaganda or "democratic" expediency, a shouting down of dissenters and objectors, redefinition of political terms to suit the power elite, a call for the popular globalization of these "progressive" institutions, and … well I don’t know. As I said, not much. Except that every one of these proposals appears to be fact.

"For government consists in nothing else but so controlling subjects that they shall neither be able to, nor have cause to do it harm." —Nicolo Machiavelli

Joseph Farah recently reminded us that, "America is not slouching toward totalitarianism, it is rushing headlong toward it. " And if so, are there any apologists that can sincerely argue that a people rushing toward a totalitarian police state aren't seriously flirting with that harlot we call Fascism? And if we are, then denial herself is the brutal, silent, black leather-clad dominatrix of the entire affair. History would suggest she is an indifferent whore, much to the tragic sadness of those throughout the ages who insist on getting involved with her. She's just as likely to strike down her most powerful despots and ideological advocates as she is the powerless and innocent.

Still, no matter how much you try, you can never backtrack after considering these notions. There's a legitimate contention for reasonable limitations to the possible abuse of central power. That goes for the most justifiable causes, including nationally or internationally homogenized education, health care, or militant police protection. There's a popular line of reasoning circulating these days arguing that governments are basically in the business of selling protection. Protection from poverty, foreign invaders, thieves and other common criminals, "class injustice," our "inability" to provide for ourselves, those who would insult us, environmental degradation, our propensity to drive without fastening our seat belts or ride without our helmets, anything and everything they can think of. So when they come to sell you this protection you may ask them what happens if you decline their monopolized services. What happens if you should like to shop elsewhere for these "necessities," in a more competitive market? What happens if even from a reasonable posture, you refuse to unilaterally allow the federal, state, or local authorities to take your money in exchange for limiting your freedom to negotiate with them?

Well, there's a strong possibility that they'll read you your "rights" and flat out tell you that then you'll need protection from them. That this fact so reminds any reasonable thinker of the protection rackets of organized crime should cause any rational person to look at the entire matter from a different perspective.

"In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant." —Charles de Gaulle

While to a certain degree the views presented here may be considered an over-simplification, or hyperbole for the benefit of illustration, they still color every further thought we might have about government. The worst thing about seeing our aging collectivist king without his clothes is that you can never get his fat, hairy, greasy image out of your mind again.

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from The Laissez Faire City Times, Vol 3, No 6, Feb. 8, 1999

Orginally posted on 07/17/2001 12:06:52 PDT by Coyote


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Reposted, as articles prior to 9-4-01 cannot be 'bumped'.
1 posted on 05/21/2002 10:21:23 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
What's wrong with a little Fascism?
2 posted on 05/21/2002 10:23:29 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: rageaholic
What's wrong with a little Fascism?

Nothing, according to "conservatives" like Bill Bennett and his authoritarian ilk, and many posters on FR.

3 posted on 05/21/2002 10:38:30 AM PDT by bassmaner
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To: Stand Watch Listen
As Ludwig von Mises observed, Fascism, Nazism, and Socialism are varying versions of the same core conviction: that it is the sacred duty of popular government to prevent the emergence of profits by public control of production and distribution. What distinguishes Fascism and Nazism from Socialism in economic theory is how they translate "public control" into reality.

For the socialist, it means outright nationalization-government ownership-of private business. In a socialist state, the government owns and operates the airlines, railroads, banks, phone companies, and any other business you can think of. Everyone is an employee of the State.

For the fascist, public or government control is just that-control, rather than nationalized ownership, via complete bureaucratic regulation of ostensibly private business.

As an ardent admirer of Marx, Mussolini coined the term "Fascism" for his brand of authoritarian, patriotic Marxism. Fascism operates under the principle of "might makes right," through the exercise of raw, naked governmental police power.

In America today, the increasingly rough-shod violation of constitutional rights by government agents in the name of "protecting the environment" or the "war on drugs" is an indication of how far we are proceeding in this direction.

Intellectually, fascism is far more dishonest than socialism, which at least has the courage to assert legal ownership of the economy and thus assume the legal responsibility for its functioning.

As we can see, liberals are the pro typical Fascist - they're dishonest and they want Government control of all aspects of our life.

4 posted on 05/21/2002 10:41:33 AM PDT by jimkress
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To: Stand Watch Listen
involuntary military draft

involuntary registration?? Is that still the law?
5 posted on 05/21/2002 11:05:46 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: Stand Watch Listen
The difference between Facists, Communists, and Socialists:

Facists were pretty uniforms. Steal everything you have, and kill you if you don't believe it's for your own good, or if they just feel like it.

Communists were camofloge uniforms. Steal everything you have, and kill you if you don't believe it's for your own good, or if they just feel like it.

Socialists were bad suits. Steal everything you have, and kill you if you don't believe it's for your own good, or if they just feel like it.

6 posted on 05/21/2002 11:38:30 AM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: My Identity
Yes, all males are required to register for the draft on their 18th birthday under penalty of law.
7 posted on 05/21/2002 11:40:26 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Stand Watch Listen
"Fascism: Any program for setting up and centralizing an autocratic regime with severely authoritarian politics exercising regulation of industry, commerce and finance, rigid censorship, and forcible oppression of opposition. —
Webster's Unabridged Dictionary "

Sure sounds like Communism but you would have to add control of education, media and Hollywood.

8 posted on 05/21/2002 11:42:57 AM PDT by ex-snook
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Great article. Thanks!

Now what? Unfortunately I don't see a way back. Our best efforts only slow the ever increasing reach of the Fascists. I'm 45. I worry about my kids, but despite my best efforts they are less outraged than I am. Perhaps my grandkids (should my children be granted procreation licenses) will find it all so normal it won't bother them at all.

With both parties fully supporting income redistributing, eco-regulating, cradele-to-grave tracking big government I don't see a lot of options for restoring freedom.

The Free State Project has a new idea, so I'm checking them out. I'm still voting, contributing, etc. And posting and reading but I'm not expecting any change in the right direction. Sadly.

9 posted on 05/21/2002 11:45:24 AM PDT by Jack Black
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What ever happened to The Laissez Faire City Times? I can no longer find it on tne web.
10 posted on 05/21/2002 11:50:44 AM PDT by thrcanbonly1
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Thanks for reposting this. I have bookmarked it.

Sometimes when I refer to Fascist Davis, those who have not learned about Fascism challenge me. This will be an excellent tutorial to refer them to.

11 posted on 05/21/2002 12:04:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Jack Black
Up to twelve years in the 'public schools'/re-education camps has a large effect on all kids, just as the Party planned.

But there's enough residual liberty left in the country to teach most kids to be cynical about the agenda shovelled out to them by supposedly 'responsible' adults.

The cynicism of alienated youth may turn out to be the country's salvation! lol

History is almost entirely an ironic account. ;^)

12 posted on 05/21/2002 12:07:18 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Stand Watch Listen
In the real world of non-revisionist history, the problem of politics has always been the diametric polarization of the individual and a governing elite.

Poor guy. Why must he use his prose like guillotine? He's cut the world in half, with the unreal part prior to the Enlightenment chopped off, legs dangling, while the severed head, happy with all the blood, speaks of an absolute and false dichotomy of the individual and state. Methinks it is looking cross-eyed from staring at polarities.

Did I misunderstand him? He don't like some folks and he can say so with humility giving way to hate.

13 posted on 05/21/2002 12:19:38 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: thrcanbonly1
Try this ...
http://www.zolatimes.com/

14 posted on 05/21/2002 12:21:50 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen; Marine Inspector
Outstanding post. Here's a quote I think is apropos.

"It should never be forgotten by leaders of democratic nations that nothing except the love and habit of freedom can maintain an advantageous contest with the love and habit of physical well-being. I can conceive of nothing better prepared for subjection in case of defeat than a democratic people without free institutions." - De Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1835.

15 posted on 05/21/2002 12:27:45 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Here are a few more thoughts on the subject.

"We have to combat the wolf of socialism, and we shall be able to do it far more effectively as a pack of hounds than as a flock of sheep." - Winston Churchill, speech, 1937.

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill, House of Commons, October 22, 1945.

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill, Perth, May 28, 1948.

"The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination: between concentration of ownership in the hands of the State and the extension of a property-owning democracy; between a policy of increasing restraint and a policy of liberating energy and ingenuity: between a policy of levelling down and a policy of finding opportunities for all to rise upwards from a basic standard." - Winston Churchill, speech in Woodford, England, January 28, 1950.

16 posted on 05/21/2002 12:44:17 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Stand Watch Listen
How about a link to the original thread...did I miss it?
17 posted on 05/21/2002 12:51:57 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PsyOp
The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination

Happily, that is not the only or most momentous choice in life.

18 posted on 05/21/2002 12:53:06 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: f.Christian
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b548ccc25e5.htm

19 posted on 05/21/2002 1:47:55 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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*Bump* for later
20 posted on 05/21/2002 2:07:27 PM PDT by Yardstick
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"The state of American education being what it is, the vast majority of people are totally incapable of recognizing a fascist economic program, even when it is used to slap them in the face. This is because they have not been taught that fascism means state direction of the economy, cradle to grave 'social security', complete control of education, government intervention in every nook and cranny of the economy - and the belief that the individual belongs to the state."

"During the late 1960s, I watched in despair as my brilliantly gifted [American] piano students suddenly began to speak as if someone had replaced their brains with prerecorded tapes. They spoke in phrases-repeated mechanically-which were neither the product of, nor accessible to, intelligent consideration. At first, these tapes seemed to contain only a few slogans about "love and peace." Fruitful conversation became impossible, but that was merely regrettable. The situation became alarming when the "tapes" began to include words and phrases that had become familiar to me in Hungary during the Nazi and Soviet occupations, and which contributed to the reasons for my decision to escape. Worse yet, the words and phrases were soon followed by practices of similar pedigree.
"Reactionary," "exploitation," "oppressor and oppressed," and "redistribution" were some of the words taken straight from the Marxist repertoire. The term "politically correct" first came to my attention through the writings of Anton Semionovich Makarenko, Lenin's expert on education. Adolf Hitler preferred the version "socially correct." Then came the affirmative action forms which classified people by ancestry-first signed into law in Nazi Germany-and the preferential treatment of specific categories, introduced by the Stalinist government in 1950."

Joseph Farah recently reminded us that, "America is not slouching toward totalitarianism, it is rushing headlong toward it. "And if so, are there any apologists that can sincerely argue that a people rushing toward a totalitarian police state aren't seriously flirting with that harlot we call Fascism?

There's a popular line of reasoning circulating these days arguing that governments are basically in the business of selling protection. Protection from poverty, foreign invaders, thieves and other common criminals, "class injustice," our "inability" to provide for ourselves, those who would insult us, environmental degradation, our propensity to drive without fastening our seat belts or ride without our helmets, anything and everything they can think of. So when they come to sell you this protection you may ask them what happens if you decline their monopolized services. What happens if you should like to shop elsewhere for these "necessities," in a more competitive market? What happens if even from a reasonable posture, you refuse to unilaterally allow the federal, state, or local authorities to take your money in exchange for limiting your freedom to negotiate with them?
Well, there's a strong possibility that they'll read you your "rights" and flat out tell you that then you'll need protection from them. That this fact so reminds any reasonable thinker of the protection rackets of organized crime should cause any rational person to look at the entire matter from a different perspective.

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These are some of the particularly pertinent, and chilling, quotes I take from the article.

21 posted on 05/21/2002 2:24:38 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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I'm 45. I worry about my kids, but despite my best efforts they are less outraged than I am.

Same here. I really don't want my granddaughter to grow up in the world as it is going. I have (finally) convinced my daughter to put her in a private school when she is old enough, but my daughter tends to shrug off any other comments I make. I dread the day she wakes up and sees the truth.

22 posted on 05/21/2002 3:39:42 PM PDT by serinde
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To: thrcanbonly1
Glad to help a former Londonista: Try here

There was some sort of falling out among the Laissez Faire City people.

23 posted on 05/21/2002 4:02:00 PM PDT by jodorowsky
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Bump.
24 posted on 05/25/2002 7:26:22 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Jack Black
With both parties fully supporting income redistributing, eco-regulating, cradele-to-grave tracking big government I don't see a lot of options for restoring freedom.

A good example, Pataki commenting this week on the facial-scanning cameras installed at the Statue of Liberty. He likes them and wants them installed in a bunch of other places. Pretty sickening to hear. The interviewed people going through the lines, and they said it made them feel "safer". One person even said something along the line of "you have to give up some freedoms to keep other freedoms".

Truly disgusting how weak our country has become. Didn't we once fight a few World Wars and a Civil War and a Revolution?

25 posted on 05/25/2002 8:28:14 PM PDT by texlok
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Fascism and Marxism are opposite ideologies. Marxism is based on historical materialism. It believes that history is influenced only by economic forces and rejects the importance of individuals in history. According to this theory human history involves an unending class struggle between the ruling class and the oppressed. For example, in feudalism the landowners, or aristocrats were the ruling class. The aristocrats were overthrown by the bourgeoisie who then became the ruling class and replaced feudalism with capitalism. The new underclass in capitalism were the proletariat, who Marxists believe will eventually overthrow capitalism and replace it with socialism, just as the slave societies of the ancient world were replaced by feudalism, and feudalism was replaced by capitalism.

Fascism rejects the theory of historical materialism. It believes that history is not determined by economic factors, but in "heroism and in holiness", as Mussolini says in "What is Fascism?". It places a strong emphasis on the role of individuals and mythology. Because it rejects historical materialism it also rejects that the class struggle is the dominant force of change in society, and even the existence of a continuous class struggle. Fascism rejects both of these things, which are the core of Marxist theory.

Another trait of Fascism is its strong emphasis on nationalism. Mussolini's dream was the recreate the Roman Empire, which was the origin of the salute used by both Fascists and Nazis. This is opposed to Marxism in that Marxism is an internationalist theory. Real Marxism believes that socialism cannot be established in one country because one country doesn't have the resources or the capacity to create a classless society. It believes in the necessity of a world wide revolution for the creation of socialism. Marxists believe that with the creation of a classless society there will be no more need for a state and it will whither away until it has disappeared. Fascism on the other hand places the importance of the state above all else.

Mussolini himself said that "Fascism [is] the complete opposite of Marxian Socialism . . . ." Since Marxism is a left-wing ideology it's opposite, Fascism, is a right-wing ideology.

26 posted on 05/31/2002 11:41:24 AM PDT by Euphen
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Bump
28 posted on 05/31/2002 12:06:31 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Euphen
Mussolini himself said that "Fascism [is] the complete opposite of Marxian Socialism . . . ." Since Marxism is a left-wing ideology it's opposite, Fascism, is a right-wing ideology.

"Q.E.D."

The rejection of the collectivist premise altogether, classical liberalism, is the true opposite of Fascism/Communism. The two big 20th century totalitarian cults differ only in their imagery and the personality types that find them attractive.

"The hammer and sickle is a swastika in drag."

29 posted on 05/31/2002 5:25:12 PM PDT by jodorowsky
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To: Stand Watch Listen
It's been a battle over who has ownership of human rights––who possesses innate sovereignty––the individual or the state.

Madison and Jefferson would say that sovereignty lies in the consent of the people and Liberals would say with the state. I think though, that sovereignty comes from and lies in God. If power isn't exercised in harmony with God's law then it isn't legitimate, no matter how many people consent to it.

I'm sure I'll be accused of being a theocrat, but by placing sovereignty in the people, rather than God and divine law, the framers of the constitution left the door open for any evil so long as it was justified by majority rule. Ultimately, therefore, the reason the constitutional system was perverted so quickly is not the fault of the governmental system set forth in the constitution, but rather it allows matters of truth and morality to become open questions, not anchored in divine law.

flame retardent on!

30 posted on 05/31/2002 5:45:19 PM PDT by JMJ333
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The left is buying up the means of production. Government union members are sitting on the boards of Fortune 100 companies. Calpers can make or break financial firms. Nearly 7 million government workers pay no Social Security taxes but have every dime of their pensions invested in the markets. The government workers who are in SS also have private plans controlled by their union, the state or local municipality. Someday everyone may be working, in effect, for their kid's teacher or the clerk at the DMV.
31 posted on 05/31/2002 5:53:30 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Grampa Dave
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32 posted on 09/10/2002 6:50:22 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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33 posted on 09/10/2002 6:51:29 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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34 posted on 09/10/2002 6:51:53 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Thans for the ping.

Here is a link to another thread where the path of socialism in Germany led to Fascism. Of course the socialists want to deny this and say that Fascism is reserved for the right wingers. Wrong Fascism is the ultimate goal of the elite socialists. Fascism enables the elite socialists to control the corporations and to live the elite life styles that the Germans, Italians and Spainards lived in the 1930's and 1940's. (Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist, and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape, and the time has come to expose it. link)

Here are some key paragraphs in this article:

Nazism was inspired by Italian Fascism, an invention of hardline Communist Benito Mussolini. During World War I, Mussolini recognized that conventional socialism wasn't working. He saw that nationalism exerted a stronger pull on the working class than proletarian brotherhood. He also saw that the ferocious opposition of large corporations made socialist revolution difficult.

So in 1919, Mussolini came up with an alternative strategy. He called it Fascism. Mussolini described his new movement as a ``Third Way'' between capitalism and communism. As under communism, the state would exercise dictatorial control over the economy. But as under capitalism, the corporations would be left in private hands.

Hitler followed the same game plan. He openly acknowledged that the Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the ``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler eliminated trade unions, and replaced them with his own state-run labor organizations. Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler hunted down and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

Hitler regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so in speech after speech. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps.

The Nazis are widely known as nationalists, but that label is often used to obscure the fact that they were also socialists. Some question whether Hitler himself actually believed in socialism, but that is no more relevant than whether Stalin was a true believer. The fact is that neither could have come to power without at least posing as a socialist.

35 posted on 09/10/2002 7:14:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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HUGE 'KEEP THIS ALIVE' BUMP
36 posted on 02/12/2003 3:41:14 AM PST by Brian Allen (This above all -- to thine own self be true)
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37 posted on 02/12/2003 3:56:14 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Cynical)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Reposted, as articles prior to 9-4-01 cannot be 'bumped'.
BUMPable now!
38 posted on 02/12/2003 4:02:50 AM PST by philman_36
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To: rdavis84
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39 posted on 02/12/2003 5:23:02 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Brian Allen
Amen!

40 posted on 02/12/2003 5:24:11 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: philman_36
bttt and link to orginal thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b548ccc25e5.htm

41 posted on 02/12/2003 5:25:50 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
bttt and link to...http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38650bf67620.htm
...an even older version.
42 posted on 02/12/2003 6:47:44 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Thanks for the update and the link...apreciate it.

43 posted on 02/21/2003 8:46:24 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Save for reference


44 posted on 12/05/2004 7:20:07 PM PST by neb52
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To: neb52

for reading later


45 posted on 11/03/2006 8:57:15 PM PST by John Galt's cousin ("Innocent until proven guilty" is more correctly phrased: "Innocent UNLESS proven guilty")
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It's a real pity Coyote (Ace) no longer posts here.

L

46 posted on 11/03/2006 9:02:52 PM PST by Lurker (A liberal thinks they can sleep in, and someone will cover their lame ass. Ted Nugent)
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To: Lurker
On the off chance somebody actually understands what's happening to us.

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47 posted on 02/15/2009 3:44:40 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Nicely stated and well written.


48 posted on 02/15/2009 7:36:40 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Jack Black

>Great article. Thanks!
>Now what? Unfortunately I don’t see a way back.

2nd amendment... and a LOT of bloodshed.


49 posted on 02/15/2009 7:38:06 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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