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[medved]

That's going to a lot of work just to demonstrate the fact that you're ignorant, don't you think?

[medved]

Could they extrapolate their appearance based on a couple of bones? I doubt it.

Particularly since, as the articles on this find note, dinosaur skeletons are rarely if ever found with more than a fraction of the bones in one place.

[Little Bill]

They should try digging in Maryland, or rather lookig.

[Wm Bach]

Love piltdown pics.

[tutstar]

bump

[sauropod]

thx. His Royal Podness.

[john in missouri]

That's going to a lot of work just to demonstrate the fact that you're ignorant, don't you think?

No, but since you want to frame the discussion in such terms, it's going to a lot of work just to demonstrate that you are.

But your basic point, that I spent a lot of work for essentially nothing, is a good one. Although I did have a lot of fun finding the images.

[sauropod]

Apparently a good book to read. 'Pod

[Rebelbase]

"Not only was this fully articulated dinosaur found laying in a bed of leaves and plant debris, but there is wood from trees mixed in among the bones, some of which contains petrified and non-petrified elements in the same piece of wood. If this creature were millions of years old, the evidence would look quite different."

Any other news sources to verify or support what was claimed above? I'm skeptical.

[Registered]

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[john in missouri]

#1) You know, if anybody could produce an early cave drawing of a stegosaurus that looks like this:

then, hey, I would say we have something. Instead, all we've got is something that looks like this:

Now that looks to me a hell of a lot like a threatened cat.

And this:

This is supposed to be a brontosaurus. Yet it could just as easily be a drawing of a guy standing beside a rock, or an ancient flower of some sort. Or maybe a sun symbol or a random abstract doodle. Yet we are supposed to believe that conclusive proof has been found that stegosaurs and brontosaurs walked with man.

#2: Even if stegosaurs and brontosaurs did walk with man, I don't really see how that would really mean a damn thing in terms of "disproving evolution." The fact is, we have at least two known species of dinosaurs that are living today because they have never died out -- the crocodile and the coelacanth.

So none of this makes a lot of sense any way you cut it -- unless, of course, you've already made up your mind and are looking for evidence to back up what you already believe. Which is, unfortunately, how most people make their decisions.

[Rodney King]

Now, You couldn't easily prove that Luke and Ray-Bob couldn't possibly make money buying and selling for $2 since they could always say they merely needed the next size bigger truck

Sure you could. You could teach them that -2 + 2 =0

That has got to be the lamest analogy ever written, and one could no possibly expect anyone to bother to read the rest of the article.

[Rodney King]

sorry, the previous post is meant for medved.

[tictoc]

More proof:

[john in missouri]

sorry, the previous post is meant for medved.

Not a problem. I agree with you BTW that the analogy is extremely lame and flawed.

Now there may be some decent evidence for the creationist viewpoint, but if there is (and I certainly haven't seen it lately), this isn't it.

Personally, I tend to put my money on something like theistic evolution or progressive creation.

I started out believing the creationist position, and the first research-type paper I ever wrote was in support of "creation science." But, hell, what do I know? I am, as medved points out, "ignorant."

[john in missouri]

Whoa buddy! Did the lone mariner survive?

[tictoc]

Whoa buddy! Did the lone mariner survive?

I believe Carson of Venus dispatched that chicken-of-the-sea with little trouble.

[Physicist]

I've read his Rochester Roundabout, a history of high energy physics as it developed through the "Rochester conferences" (which ultimately became the International Conference on High Energy Physics). Recommended.

[advocate10]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/686851/posts

[medved]

Love piltdown pics.

You need to call the state park systems of Ontario and Utah up on the phone and tell them both they're involved in a conspiracy to perpetrate the same fraud on the public.

The thing which strikes me as overwhelming about the stegosaur glyphs is the fact that, aside from the one or two fairly accurate images like the one at Agawa Rock in Ontario, there are others which are more like ideograms rather than representational art, and yet all such show the dorsal spikes of the stegosaur because that is the way that all Indian lore describes the water panther.