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HOME SCHOOL EXPEDITION UNCOVERS RARE ALLOSAUR and GIANT SAUROPOD
Vision Forum ^ | 05.20.02 | Vision Forum

Posted on 05/23/2002 6:48:35 AM PDT by Registered

 

     FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
     A SPECIAL REPORT FROM
     THE VISION FORUM, INC.
     ================================================
     HOME SCHOOL EXPEDITION UNCOVERS
     RARE ALLOSAUR and GIANT SAUROPOD
     ================================================


     COLORADO, May 20 -- A dinosaur fossil expedition for home educators
sponsored by Vision Forum and Creation Expeditions has excavated a rare,
large, intact Allosaurus measuring more than 22 feet in length, 10 feet in
height, with a complete skull more than a yard long. Allosaurs are
believed to be a close relative of the Tyrannosaurus rex, and differ from
the T. rex primarily in size and cranial capacity.

     Under the leadership of Vision Forum president Doug Phillips, an
adjunct professor of apologetics with the Institute for Creation Research,
and Peter DeRosa, a veteran archaeologist and paleontologist with
Creation
Expeditions
, the team of thirty home educators spent a week hunting for
and excavating fossils in a privately owned location in the Skull Creek
Basin of Northwest Colorado.

     Of the thirty-seven Allosaurs which have been discovered around the
globe, only thirteen have been found with more than twenty-five percent of
the fossilized remains intact. Of those thirteen, only three complete
skulls have ever been recovered. The Skull Creek Allosaur not only
provides the world with the fourth complete skull, but nearly seventy
percent of the animal has already been found which lends credence to
speculation that it may prove to be the best-preserved and most
fully-articulated allosaur yet to be excavated.

     "Most people do not realize that there is a tremendous paucity of
dinosaur bones available to scientists," said Doug Phillips. "Ninety-five
percent of all the fossils in the world are marine invertebrates.
Ninety-five percent of the remaining five percent are plants. The vast
majority of the rest of the fossil record is fish and insects. Only a
fraction of a percent of the remaining fossil record includes land
vertebrates, and those finds usually consist of less than one bone. To
find a complete Allosaur is simply historic."


     FOSSILS POINT to RELATIVELY RECENT
     and CATASTROPHIC BURIAL

     ================================================
     The significance of the find arises not only from its rarity, but
also from the circumstances surrounding the death of the animal.

     "The evidence strongly points to a relatively recent and catastrophic
event similar to that described in the Bible as the Flood of Noah's day,"
said Pete DeRosa.

     "We found a complete section of vertebrae more than twelve feet in
length which was fully articulated. The dinosaur appears to be in much the
same position as he was at the time of his death and burial, which must
have been virtually instantaneous, and caused by a catastrophic event. Not
only was this fully articulated dinosaur found laying in a bed of leaves
and plant debris, but there is wood from trees mixed in among the bones,
some of which contains petrified and non-petrified elements in the same
piece of wood. If this creature were millions of years old, the evidence
would look quite different."

     The discovery of such a valuable dinosaur by creation scientists
could send shockwaves through the scientific community. Phillips notes
that "up to now, a well-funded and insular community of evolutionary
theorists have dominated the field of paleontology, directing most of the
large dinosaur finds to research and museums committed to interpreting the
fossil evidence through the faith-driven assumptions of evolution.  To
have a dinosaur of this size and significance within the camp of
scientists committed to the creation model is nothing short of a coup
d'etat."

     The DeRosas, who have a contract on the fossil rights to the property
and own the right to the material they excavate, had been working the site
well in advance of the arrival of the home school expedition. Their
preliminary work over a period of months led them to believe that they had
an allosaurus, but it was not until the Vision Forum home school
expedition arrived and preformed the heavy lifting of moving a lot of
dirt, that evidence was found to validate their suspicions.


     HOME SCHOOL FATHER FINDS ALLOSAURUS SKULL
     ================================================
     As often happens with fossil expeditions, the discovery of the
Allosaur skull came at the last moment of the last day of the trip. With
just minutes to go before calling quits on the expedition, Dr. Bruce
Bellamy, a home school father from Clinton, Missouri, broke dirt on what
would prove to be the neck vertebrae leading up to the skull.

     "I placed a $250 bounty on anyone who found the skull," Phillips
said. "It was just a small incentive for my team, of course. The actual
skull could be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars."

     Last week, Pete DeRosa brought in a fresh team of professional
excavators to plaster jack the skull and remove it from the ground for
laboratory preservation. It is not yet known when the skull will be
available for viewing.


     GIANT "BEHEMOTH" SAUROPOD UNCOVERED
     ================================================
     Dr. Bellamy was not the only one to uncover a last minute prize. Just
yards away on a second site, nine-year-old home schooler Haley Meadows was
dusting away dirt with her brush when she found the claws to a 100-foot
Sauropod, presently believed to be of the rare Ultrasaurus variety.

     "What is amazing about this sauropod is the fact that it constitutes
an entire hill," Phillips said. "This is an enormous and impressive
creature. Everywhere we dig, we seem to be finding more bones -- from
six-foot femurs to ribs to vertebrae.


     HOME SCHOOL ADVENTURE TURNS
     INTO HISTORY-MAKING EXCAVATION

     ================================================
     Excavating a fully articulated dinosaur is a highly specialized,
expensive, and technical task -- for which the DeRosa family was well
prepared.

     "We were blessed to be under the supervision of Pete DeRosa and his
entire staff from Creation Expeditions," Phillips said. "These guys are a
top-notch team with hundreds of digs behind them and more than a decade of
experience working on some of the most interesting fossil sites in the
world. I think everyone was impressed by their professionalism, their
knowledge, and their passion for excellence."

     Home educators paying $995 per person were treated to a rare
opportunity to study dinosaurs, learn excavation techniques, and actually
uncover world-class dinosaur bones on a privately owned site once
described by National Geographic as one of the fifty best fossil dig sites
in the world.

     "The home schoolers on this trip paid for the privilege of shoveling
dirt, hacking at rocks, and the possibility that some of them might
uncover dinosaur bones," Phillips said. "Many of our guests came with
minimal expectations, but the dig proved successful beyond the imagination
of both trip sponsors and participants. There is not one child in a
million who gets an opportunity like this. This is what home education is
all about."

     "Learning paleontology and excavation techniques from a godly, highly
experienced team of expert paleontologists, has not just been a highlight
of our family's home school experience, but one of the greatest
experiences God has ever given to my family," Phillips said.

     "I have been lecturing on dinosaurs and creation for years, but this
was the first time I ever had the thrill of sitting with my boys on the
edge of a cliff and uncovering a behemoth femur or a Stegosaurus plate,"
Phillips said. "It is difficult to describe the exhilaration to know that
you are uncovering something very similar to the animal described by Job
as the great 'behemoth,' an animal which in this case died and was buried
during the Flood of Noah's day, and which has remained unseen by the eyes
of man for thousands of years. Incredible!"


     THE FOSSIL SITE MAY YIELD
     GREATER DISCOVERIES YET

     ================================================
     For many, the fact that creation scientists have broken through the
monopoly on paleontology with access to such a fossil-rich treasure trove
is the real story.

     "The story behind the location of this site is perhaps the greatest
miracle," said DeRosa. "Through a series of remarkable events, more than
120 acres fell into the hands of the current owners, a Christian home
schooling couple committed to biblical creationism."

     The owners, an evangelical Christian couple who home educate their
own children, have been approached by museums, television networks, and
leading evolutionists who have expressed a strong interest in the fossils
found on the property.

     "I am sure the evolutionists would love to get their hands on these
bones. Who can blame them," Phillips said. "It is like a goldmine for
paleontologists."

     Creation Expeditions, which believes the land may contain dozens of
more fully articulated dinosaurs, hopes to be excavating the site for
years.


     VISION FORUM to SPONSOR TWO MORE FOSSIL DIGS
     ================================================
     A similar fossil recovery expedition is planned in the first week of
February 2002, for the Peace and Rainbow Rivers of Florida, where the team
hopes to recover fossilized mammoth, megalodon, woolly rhino, giant sloth,
giant beaver, and other ice age creatures. A recent expedition by the
DeRosas to these locations uncovered the largest fully articulated mammoth
jaw in the world.

     A dinosaur dig to the Colorado location is planned for May 2-6. Last
year's dig was filled within about a week of the announcement by e-mail.
Terms and application requirements for the 2003 Dino Dig will not be
announced until later this year. However, if you would like to be
considered with members of your family for a spot on the 2003 trip, you
can send your contact information to Brian Howell at
brian@visionforum.com. Space will be limited to just thirty.


     VISION FORUM to RELEASE DOCUMENTARY
     ================================================
     Vision Forum is planning to release a video documentary on the
historic Dragon's Den Expedition in the future.

     For more information on the creation work of Vision Forum, go to
http://www.visionforum.com. To read about the ministry and conferences of
Vision Forum Ministries, visit http://www.visionforum.org. For information
on supporting the work of Vision Forum Ministries in its efforts to
communicate the Gospel through creation, click here:

     http://www.visionforum.org/sections/support/

     ###

     For Press Contacts with Pete DeRosa or Doug Phillips, call Bob Renaud
at (210) 364-6647, or e-mail him at bob@visionforum.com.


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To: john in missouri
That's going to a lot of work just to demonstrate the fact that you're ignorant, don't you think?
41 posted on 05/23/2002 12:05:36 PM PDT by medved
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To: Future Snake Eater
Could they extrapolate their appearance based on a couple of bones? I doubt it.

Particularly since, as the articles on this find note, dinosaur skeletons are rarely if ever found with more than a fraction of the bones in one place.

42 posted on 05/23/2002 12:08:45 PM PDT by medved
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To: sauropod
They should try digging in Maryland, or rather lookig.
43 posted on 05/23/2002 12:19:56 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: medved
Love piltdown pics.
44 posted on 05/23/2002 12:21:28 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Registered
bump
45 posted on 05/23/2002 12:23:49 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: ppaul
thx. His Royal Podness.
46 posted on 05/23/2002 12:32:06 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: medved
That's going to a lot of work just to demonstrate the fact that you're ignorant, don't you think?

No, but since you want to frame the discussion in such terms, it's going to a lot of work just to demonstrate that you are.

But your basic point, that I spent a lot of work for essentially nothing, is a good one. Although I did have a lot of fun finding the images.

47 posted on 05/23/2002 12:32:15 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: Wordsmith; Physicist
Apparently a good book to read. 'Pod
48 posted on 05/23/2002 12:34:12 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: Registered
"Not only was this fully articulated dinosaur found laying in a bed of leaves and plant debris, but there is wood from trees mixed in among the bones, some of which contains petrified and non-petrified elements in the same piece of wood. If this creature were millions of years old, the evidence would look quite different."

Any other news sources to verify or support what was claimed above? I'm skeptical.

49 posted on 05/23/2002 12:41:55 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
Pop Visionforum an email.
50 posted on 05/23/2002 12:48:35 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Future Snake Eater
#1) You know, if anybody could produce an early cave drawing of a stegosaurus that looks like this:

then, hey, I would say we have something. Instead, all we've got is something that looks like this:

Now that looks to me a hell of a lot like a threatened cat.

And this:

This is supposed to be a brontosaurus. Yet it could just as easily be a drawing of a guy standing beside a rock, or an ancient flower of some sort. Or maybe a sun symbol or a random abstract doodle. Yet we are supposed to believe that conclusive proof has been found that stegosaurs and brontosaurs walked with man.

#2: Even if stegosaurs and brontosaurs did walk with man, I don't really see how that would really mean a damn thing in terms of "disproving evolution." The fact is, we have at least two known species of dinosaurs that are living today because they have never died out -- the crocodile and the coelacanth.

So none of this makes a lot of sense any way you cut it -- unless, of course, you've already made up your mind and are looking for evidence to back up what you already believe. Which is, unfortunately, how most people make their decisions.

51 posted on 05/23/2002 12:54:05 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
Now, You couldn't easily prove that Luke and Ray-Bob couldn't possibly make money buying and selling for $2 since they could always say they merely needed the next size bigger truck

Sure you could. You could teach them that -2 + 2 =0

That has got to be the lamest analogy ever written, and one could no possibly expect anyone to bother to read the rest of the article.

52 posted on 05/23/2002 1:00:15 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: john in missouri;medved
sorry, the previous post is meant for medved.
53 posted on 05/23/2002 1:07:35 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: john in missouri
More proof:


54 posted on 05/23/2002 1:29:40 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: Rodney King
sorry, the previous post is meant for medved.

Not a problem. I agree with you BTW that the analogy is extremely lame and flawed.

Now there may be some decent evidence for the creationist viewpoint, but if there is (and I certainly haven't seen it lately), this isn't it.

Personally, I tend to put my money on something like theistic evolution or progressive creation.

I started out believing the creationist position, and the first research-type paper I ever wrote was in support of "creation science." But, hell, what do I know? I am, as medved points out, "ignorant."

55 posted on 05/23/2002 1:34:43 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: tictoc
Whoa buddy! Did the lone mariner survive?
56 posted on 05/23/2002 1:37:25 PM PDT by john in missouri
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To: john in missouri
Whoa buddy! Did the lone mariner survive?

I believe Carson of Venus dispatched that chicken-of-the-sea with little trouble.

57 posted on 05/23/2002 1:43:05 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: sauropod; Wordsmith
I've read his Rochester Roundabout, a history of high energy physics as it developed through the "Rochester conferences" (which ultimately became the International Conference on High Energy Physics). Recommended.
58 posted on 05/23/2002 2:03:59 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Registered
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/686851/posts
59 posted on 05/23/2002 2:07:41 PM PDT by advocate10
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To: Wm Bach
Love piltdown pics.

You need to call the state park systems of Ontario and Utah up on the phone and tell them both they're involved in a conspiracy to perpetrate the same fraud on the public.

The thing which strikes me as overwhelming about the stegosaur glyphs is the fact that, aside from the one or two fairly accurate images like the one at Agawa Rock in Ontario, there are others which are more like ideograms rather than representational art, and yet all such show the dorsal spikes of the stegosaur because that is the way that all Indian lore describes the water panther.


60 posted on 05/23/2002 2:42:44 PM PDT by medved
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