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..FOLLOW ME in new -Time of War- = The Vietnam Vet / RICK RESCORLA..
Opinion Journal ^ | ALOHA RONNIE

Posted on 05/26/2002 7:45:06 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET

Memorial Day 1966 =

Americans say Vietnam Veterans are too close to the action to know what the Vietnam War is really all about.

Memorial Day 2002 =

Former CIA Director ..JAMES WOOLSEY.. says that a new Commission of America's -Best and Brightest- Minds should be brought together in a D.C. Conference Room to come up with recommendations on how to best fight a new World War on Terrrorism...

...with a picture placed on the wall above them of Vietnam Veteran ..RICK RESCORLA.. the Lifesaving Hero of the Battle of IA DRANG-1965, the World Trade Center Bombing-1993 and World Trade Center Airstrikes-2001 ..shining down as ..THE.. Example to follow in protecting our Country in a new Century.

...What a fitting Memorial Day Tribute to -The Vietnam Veteran- ...just when it is most needed...

...with an Enemy that is now just around the corner and up your Street...???

Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE Guyer / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 / Landing Zone Falcon / See.. www.LzXray.com

NEVER FORGET


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NEVER FORGET

...To sign our Petition for President BUSH to consider for a Medal of Freedom Award to ..RICK RESCORLA.. who gave all he had in saving the lives of 1,000's of others at Tower 2 on Sept 11th...

...please go to our .."WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG".. website right under his IA DRANG-1965 Picture on.. www.LzXray.com..

...And see our various ..RICK RESCORLA, Morgan Stanley Hero, "WE WERE SOLDIERS-The Movie," Bookmarked Freerepublic.com Threads by simply hitting the.. ALOHA RONNIE ..on this Thread.

May I suggest starting with the last Thread on my Bookmarked List titled:

..'The bravest man I ever knew'..

NEVER FORGET

1 posted on 05/26/2002 7:45:07 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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NEVER FORGET
2 posted on 05/26/2002 7:50:36 AM PDT by pad 34
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I will never forget. Thank You, Aloha Ronnie. God bless our nation and those who fight to preserve her freedoms.
3 posted on 05/26/2002 7:52:56 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BTTT
4 posted on 05/26/2002 7:56:43 AM PDT by facedown
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NEVER FORGET

...While The Enemy Within/Decades-Long Friend of Terrorists ..HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON.. now suddenly calls for an Investigation of our President BUSH and the Attacks of Sept 11th by Terrorists in -Time of War-..

...we have been calling for her and her Husband to be held accountable ever since September 11, 2001 for their deliberate sabotaging of our Intelligence Operations during the 1990's that brought us all to Sept 11th and the untimely and unnecessary death of one Mega-Lifesaving ..RICK RESCORLA..!!

See our .."WE WERE SOLDIERS-The Movie".. -Off Topic- General Discussion Forum Thread on...

.. www.WeWereSoldiersFILM.com ..

...that was started on Sept 11th by a son Battle of IA DRANG-1965 Helicopter Commander Hero and Congressional Medal of Honor deserving ..BRUCE CRANDALL.. titled:

'September 11, 2001--Another Day That Will Live in Infamy'

NEVER FORGET

5 posted on 05/26/2002 8:00:00 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

6 posted on 05/26/2002 8:01:42 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: All
NEVER FORGET

See also the -Operation Enduring Freedom- Forum Threads on...

.. www.Newsmax.com .. titled:

..'Guilty CLINTON: "It ain't my Fault" (9-11-01)'..

..'WE are ALL SOLDIERS Now'..

...because after the Attacks of Sept 11th...

...WE ALL really are...???

NEVER FORGET

7 posted on 05/26/2002 8:09:28 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"You've never lived til you,ve almost died. For those who fought for it Life has a flavor the protected will never know"

NEVER FORGET

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

8 posted on 05/26/2002 8:12:17 AM PDT by Boonie Rat
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I will not forget, ever.

"FOLLOW ME" is the epitome of Courage. With a capital "C".

I'm getting into middle age and soon into old age.

I could still follow a green Lieutenat, if he led out front and shouted "Follow Me!"

Yep. Lock and load and to heck with the rest.

9 posted on 05/26/2002 8:14:04 AM PDT by LibKill
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NEVER FORGET

...Here's a .."FOLLOW ME".. Bump 4-U...

NEVER FORGET

10 posted on 05/26/2002 8:19:29 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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"Down these mean streets a man must go, who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid." - Raymond Chandler
11 posted on 05/26/2002 8:30:31 AM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: Boonie Rat
In 1966 I was a junior in high school. My dad had just died. It seems like a very long time ago.
12 posted on 05/26/2002 8:31:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Woolsey: Foiling the Next Attack
Opinion Journal | 05/21/2002 | R. JAMES WOOLSEY
Posted on 5/20/02 9:06 PM Pacific by Pokey78

Stop the blame game. There's work to be done.

It might be useful to call a truce, step back from the finger-pointing about who in the government made what mistakes before Sept. 11, and look for a moment at who was doing things right.

Based on what is now publicly known, it looks as if a handful of people were demonstrably prescient before Sept. 11 about terrorists being trained as pilots and crashing aircraft into major buildings in the U.S.:

• The late Rick Rescorla, the remarkable chief of security for Morgan Stanley in the World Trade Center, who foresaw the magnitude of the attack and died a hero's death while saving over 3,000 people.

• Two FBI agents, Kenneth Williams in Phoenix and another agent in Minneapolis, each of whom separately shared his specific concerns about terrorist pilots with colleagues inside the FBI.

• Rex Hudson, an analyst at the Library of Congress, who was asked to assess the psychology of terrorists by the National Intelligence Council in 1999 and whose analysis of suicide pilots was published well before Sept. 11.

• Stephen Gale, a terrorism expert at the University of Pennsylvania, who, together with two colleagues, gave the Federal Aviation Administration in 1998 an analysis of how suicide pilots would operate, and was met with a shrug.

• And Tom Clancy, who published a novel ("Debt of Honor") in 1994 centered on the concept of a rogue pilot flying a 747 into the U.S. Capitol.

Much of the information upon which these men reached their conclusions was available to the rest of us. Why weren't we as perceptive as Rick Rescorla et al.?

It is probably in part because in order to make decisions about what we need to do to thwart terrorist attacks in this country we've been relying too much upon the prospect of obtaining foreign intelligence. For a number of reasons this source of information--stealing secrets abroad by, principally, recruiting spies and intercepting communications--will only rarely be able to give us advance warning about terrorist attacks. If we are smart and lucky we may conceivably strike gold--recruit a member of al Qaeda's inner circle or tap into their communications--but during the years, perhaps decades, of war that lie ahead this will occur at best only rarely. It would be extremely difficult for a CIA case officer to recruit and run an agent who stays in place in al Qaeda and gives us a continuing stream of information. To find one who has access to the organization's advance plans would be more difficult still.

Intercepted communications could be a more promising source of intelligence if it weren't for our national tendency to logorrhea about the subject. U.S. intelligence figured out in the late 1990s how to intercept bin Laden's satellite telephone conversations, and then someone talked to the press about it; the source of course dried up. Recently there have been periodic press reports about how we have been able to intercept al Qaeda e-mail and other communications. (Hint to the blabbermouths in the government who have access to intercepts of terrorist communications: Members of al Qaeda read newspapers.)

The most useful thing the president could do to avoid intelligence failures in the war against terrorism would be to order the government to treat intercepted communications the way we treated the fruits of U.S. and British code-breaking in World War II: Cut back the number of people with access to intercepts by about 99.9% and threaten the few who retain access with severe punishment if they even think of talking about intercepts outside authorized channels.

In part because of these problems there apparently was no foreign intelligence (in the sense of secrets stolen abroad) that was available before Sept. 11 and that would have reasonably led the government to expect that terrorists would fly airliners into buildings, on that date or any other time. The intelligence warning given the president by the CIA last Aug. 6 about possible al Qaeda hijackings was, as is often the case, vague and general; it did not deal with suicide pilots at all. As long as the White House was relying on the foreign intelligence it was given, it is hard to see how the president could reasonably have done more than he did--alert law enforcement agencies and the airlines.

Each of the half dozen or so individuals who did take some action before Sept. 11 to get us to focus on the threat of suicide pilots attacking buildings did so based not on foreign intelligence but on his own judgment, sparked by other sources of information. The two FBI agents were acting on hunches developed during law-enforcement investigations inside the U.S. Mr. Hudson, the Library of Congress analyst, had read that after his capture Abdul Hakim Murad, Ramzi Yousef's colleague in the 1995 plot to blow up a dozen U.S. airliners, had reportedly spoken of the possibility of a suicide-pilot attack against CIA headquarters. The University of Pennsylvania researchers were insightful for similar reasons. Mr. Clancy presumably decided on the plot of his novel based on his own fertile imagination, combined with his extensive research. The extraordinary Rescorla, who had also foreseen the earlier truck bomb attack against the World Trade Center, was just one of those rare individuals--as he had shown in his distinguished military career--who have an invaluable sixth sense of being able to think like their enemies and the intellectual courage to act on their judgments. The question is how to replicate such insights across the spectrum of government.

We will pick up a good deal of information about possible terrorist attacks in the future from several different sources: by interrogating prisoners captured abroad, by our armed forces capturing terrorists' computers in Afghanistan, by law enforcement investigations here in the U.S., by tips from friendly intelligence and law-enforcement organizations in other countries, and to some extent through our spies and our collection of electronic intelligence. Military actions abroad may be quite fruitful, but foreign intelligence that we ourselves collect--the secrets we steal abroad--may be a relatively small share of the important information in the government's hands.

One major reason is that much of the terrorists' plotting may be done here in the U.S., as terrorist expert Steven Emerson has been saying for years. Much of the hijackers' planning for Sept. 11 apparently took place in the U.S. and in Germany. Neither the FBI nor its German counterpart have a hunting license to spy domestically on whatever interests them. Both investigate specific crimes, past and potential. The terrorists knew exactly what they were doing--they worked out of two countries where civil liberties are strongly protected and, as long as they obeyed the law, they knew they would probably not even be watched, much less interfered with.

Some of the pre-Sept. 11 barriers to communication about terrorism within and between the intelligence and law enforcement communities have been removed in the last eight months. The CIA has reportedly now suspended, at least in matters relating to terrorism, the highly dysfunctional guidelines it issued in late 1995 that deter case officers from recruiting spies who might have some propensity to violence--obviously a major obstacle to penetrating terrorist groups. The USA Patriot Act made it legal last fall (it was illegal before) for the FBI to provide material to the CIA obtained pursuant to grand jury subpoenas in domestic terrorism investigations. FBI Director Robert Mueller, who inherited from his predecessor an extremely decentralized organization that was not well-focused on dealing with terrorism, has recently consolidated counterterrorist work; this should help ensure in the future that FBI agents in Phoenix and Minneapolis who have suspicions about a terrorist threat will not work in ignorance of one another's efforts.

What is needed, urgently, is a way for the potpourri of information available to the government--including assessments of our infrastructure's vulnerabilities, foreign intelligence, law-enforcement material, and the hunches of FBI agents and academic analysts--to be pulled together in one place and assessed by people with the sixth sense of a Rick Rescorla. The only institution which both the law enforcement and intelligence communities recognize as their superior is the presidency, so this task, it would seem, must be done in the White House. The most obvious place to focus it would be in Tom Ridge's Homeland Security office.

But Mr. Ridge needs more resources than civil servants on loan from other parts of the government. And to get the job done properly his charter needs to let him move well beyond coordinating the efforts of various government departments. Among other tasks, he needs to take charge of both assessing and correcting the vulnerabilities in all of our national networks--the electricity grid, the Internet, food production and distribution, oil and gas pipelines, and so on. Each of these networks has different vulnerabilities, and it is necessary for those who understand the networks and those who can put themselves in the shoes of the enemy to work side-by-side.

During World War II the most talented people in the country were brought to Washington and many worked for a dollar a year to handle the myriad new tasks needed to win the war. Something like that spirit and commitment are needed now. President Bush and Mr. Ridge should ask the best people that the country can provide to help assess, network by network, our vulnerabilities and especially those (such as flimsy airliner cockpit doors before Sept. 11) that invite terrorist attack and exploitation. Congress should then be asked to give the executive branch whatever authority it needs to get those vulnerabilities fixed promptly.

The White House could start with the collection of Nobel Prize winners and top industry experts now involved in the National Academies' (Science, Engineering, Medicine) forthcoming report on using technology to protect us from terrorism; divide them up into different working groups for each network; add the nation's best experts on the Mideast such as Bernard Lewis and Fouad Ajami; season with FBI agents and others who have demonstrated prescience about terrorists' tactics; add Tom Clancy for a dash of spice; give them full access to all terrorist-related information; put a picture of Rick Rescorla on the wall as their guiding spirit, and tell them to get busy.

We must now concentrate on finding, and getting judgments made by, the people who are likely to be right. Put off the recriminations and televised hearings. There's work to do.

Mr. Woolsey, director of Central Intelligence from 1993 to 1995, practices law in Washington.

13 posted on 05/26/2002 8:40:11 AM PDT by RonDog
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From www.LZXray.com:

The American Soldier
(Rick Rescorla Pictured / shot by Peter Arnett)

A great battle shot.

No sleep for 48 hours.

Grimy, unshaven, filthy uniform.

Canteens loose, dogtags hanging out, pocket unbuttoned, helmet strap hanging.

No insignia of rank, sleeves up.

Dirty fingernails.

His bayonet is fixed; trigger finger alert and ready for action.


Lt. Rick Rescorla, Platoon Leader, B Co 2/7 Cav in Bayonet Attack on the morning of 16 Nov 1965.

Photo by Peter Arnett



14 posted on 05/26/2002 8:45:38 AM PDT by RonDog
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"NEVER FORGET

...To sign our Petition for President BUSH to consider for a Medal of Freedom Award to ..RICK RESCORLA.. who gave all he had in saving the lives of 1,000's of others at Tower 2 on Sept 11th...

...please go to our .."WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG".. website right under his IA DRANG-1965 Picture on.. www.LzXray.com..

...And see our various ..RICK RESCORLA, Morgan Stanley Hero, "WE WERE SOLDIERS-The Movie," Bookmarked Freerepublic.com Threads by simply hitting the.. ALOHA RONNIE ..on this Thread.

May I suggest starting with the last Thread on my Bookmarked List titled:

..'The bravest man I ever knew'..

NEVER FORGET" - ALOHA RONNIE

From http://www.weweresoldiersfilm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1564:
"Most of you are aware of the Rick rescorla thread awhile back. But I will update you anyway. Rick is the man on the book cover. He was revered by his men. A good leader. In the garage bombing of WTC in early 90's he was instrumental in getting people out. On 9/11 he was responsible for saving over 2600 people from his workplace and he lost his life trying to save more. At the following URL there is an online petition for awarding Rick "The Presidential Medal of Freedom". it can be signed online. I ask that you go read it and then make up your mind if you want to sign it. At least read it. And if you agree with it, pass it on to your friends on your email list. I knew Rick and he was everything they say plus more. Thanks"
http://www.petitiononline.com/pmfrick/petition.html

DICK

_________________
Recon 2/7 Cav '65
Ia Drang Valley survivor
LZ XRAY & LZ ALBANY
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(I am just helping with the HTML here. These are the words and actions of others. - RonDog)

15 posted on 05/26/2002 9:08:28 AM PDT by RonDog
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NEVER FORGET

...See.. www.LzXray.com's ..'IA DRANG - Interest' Section...

'Ronnie Guyer Photo Collection'

...for a Time of Feelings BIG TIME.

NEVER FORGET

16 posted on 05/26/2002 9:10:13 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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From http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm:

Ronnie Guyer Photo Collection
 

Collection features shots of many of the principals in the Ia Drang Campaign - Moore, Plumley, Kinnard, Nadal, Herren - taken at various locations (Plei Me, Falcon, An Khe, Bong Son)
Also features a few shots of Ronnie - thanks much for allowing us to post this history!

All photos copyright Ronnie Guyer - reuse not permitted without permission

Collection Set #1 - Bong Son, Plei Me, Ted Kennedy
Collection Set #2 - An Khe after Ia Drang, LZ Falcon, Bong Son
Collection Set #3 - Pleiku, Kinnard, POWs
 
Actor SAM ELLIOTT who portrays Hero CSM BASIL PLUMLEY to MEL GIBSON's Lt. Col. HAL MOORE in ..'WE WERE SOLDIERS'.. with ALOHA RONNIE Guyer/Radio Operator to both in Vietnam ...and the real IA DRANG-1965 Hero S-3 Operations Officer Capt MATT DILLON ...who I also Clerked for ...to the left at our Year 2001 IA DRANG Alumni D.C. Conference. (photo taken by Kevin Burke)


17 posted on 05/26/2002 9:38:03 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; MeeknMing; Snow Bunny; JohnHuang2
Ronnie Guyer Photo Collection
ALOHA RONNIE picture collection - ping!
18 posted on 05/26/2002 9:43:51 AM PDT by RonDog
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Americans say Vietnam Veterans are too close to the action to know what the Vietnam War is really all about.

Perhaps it is the draft-dodging cowards of the Bill Clinton/Chris Matthews variety who don't have a clue what the Vietnam War was really about.

E. A. Scum
101st Airborne Division
Hue/Phu Bai, 1969-70

19 posted on 05/26/2002 9:50:10 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: RonDog;All
NEVER FORGET

...For more on Lifetime Lifesaver ..RICK RESCORLA..

...See ..'The Movie'.. Discussion Forum Threads on the FanSite for ..MEL GIBSON/RANDALL WALLACE's.. supurb .."Braveheart".. in 'Nam Motion Picture .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. titled:

.. www.WeWereSoldiersFILM.com ..

GARRY OWEN, Sir

NEVER FORGET

20 posted on 05/26/2002 9:53:19 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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