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What is the evidence that the hijackers used "box-cutters" and "plastic knives"?
Edward Jay Epstein (website) ^ | 3 June 2002 | Edward Jay Epstein

Posted on 06/03/2002 1:07:58 PM PDT by Kermit

Question:

In response to questions about the advance warning President Bush received from the CIA concerning a possible hijacking plot, his press spokesman Ari Fleischer (identified by the New York Times as the anonymous “senior administration official) replied in his daily press briefing on May 15th, 2002: "The administration, based on hijackings, notified the appropriate agencies and, I think, that's one of the reasons that you saw that the people who committed the 9-11 attacks used box cutters and plastic knives to get around America's system of protecting against hijackings."

What is the evidence that the hijackers who took over the Boeing 767s that crashed into the World Trade Center “used box cutters and plastic knives?”

Answer:

There is zero evidence of box-cutters on either plane that hit the World Trade Center. Not a single flight crew member or passenger on American Airlines Flight 11 or United Airlines Flight 175 reported seeing box-cutters or plastics knives. Nor were they mentioned in the FAA executive summary on any of the hijacked plane.(LINK FAA MEMO.) Only on American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon, was there a near-mention by one passenger that the hijackers in the back of the plane had knives and "card-board cutters," and even that passenger to claim to see what weapons were actually used to hijack the plane. The claim by administration officials that plastic knives were used to hijack the planes is pure invention. (See Fictoid #9)

Since unlike guns, metal knives and bombs, it was legal for airline passengers on September 11th 2001 to carry aboard box-cutters and plastic knives, the claim that they used such devices to commandeer the planes that destroyed the World Trade Center is a functional fictoid. Not only does it serve to shield the airlines, airports and airport screeners from massive liability from the victims at the World Trade Center, it protects the Bush Administration by diverting attention away from concern that airport security at three Federally-supervised airports was dangerously lax.

Collateral Question:

Since CBS News quoted press briefer Ari Fleischer verbatim, why did the New York Times identify him anonymously as a “senior administration spokesman?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; boxcutters; conspiracy
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To: Terriergal
I can't imagine that a plastic knife is capable of holding any edge, unless someone can correct me here... ceramic maybe.


CeraStar Ceramic Chef's Knife

61 posted on 06/03/2002 4:47:10 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: archy
Thanks for posting that. Things like that always give me the cold chills up my back. Someone trained to fight terrorists sitting right beside one of 'em- fate. God has a hand in these things, I'm certain.
62 posted on 06/03/2002 4:47:12 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Kermit
Flight 93. Several people called home on cell phones and mentioned box cutters and a 'bomb like object' strapped to one of the hijackers. There was the mention, don't remember from where, that a pair of hands were found bound together with wire at the Trdae Center. Check out Snopes.com, I think. That should have some info. (The Urban References page should have some facts.)

The problem here is, this guy (the article writer) is trying to 'excuse' the terrorists.

63 posted on 06/03/2002 5:59:21 PM PDT by Darksheare
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To: miamimark
Suggesting that Ted Olson, who is in a great deal of grief over losing his wife in the attack, is part of some grand 9/11 conspiracy is disgusting.
64 posted on 06/03/2002 6:21:18 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Kermit
Any thought that, just maybe, the FBI interviewed the airport screeners at Boston who may "just perhaps" have remembered seeing (but allowing to pass, since they were legal!) the box cutters actually in the hands of these hijackers?

Why would the FBI need to release very detail of their interviews with these screeners?

Might the screener vidoe photograph records shown box cutters?

65 posted on 06/03/2002 6:35:44 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: alnick
I made no such suggestion. Merely stated what the facts are/
66 posted on 06/03/2002 6:58:16 PM PDT by miamimark
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To: Kermit
I thought the idea of terrorists using Boxcutters or small knives to hijack a plane was rather far fetched at first, the more you think it about it, it makes incredible sense.

1.About an estimated 30,000 terrorists went through Osama Bin Ladens training camps in afghanistan. And who knows how many in camps around the world.

2.We know for a fact that Bin Laden was planning to use airplanes as missiles since as early as 1995, but it was most probably on his mind much earlier. So for the last decade or so Bin Laden and associates were probably looking for possible candidates among the many tens of thousands of people who were available to him.

3.Now 99% of the people who went through his camps were probably incompetent idiots, but it is feasible to say that 19 of them were smart, strong, and committed to something on the 9/11 scale.

Conclusion:The terrorists were training for over a decade on hand to hand combat. Out of tens of thousands people, the top 20 were picked. To avoid blowing the whole operation, they ignored using bombs or guns, and concentrated soley on small knives and hand to hand combat. Kill about 5 people of the strongest men on aboard to set an example, and the rest will remain complacent thinking they will be allright when they land.

67 posted on 06/03/2002 7:20:51 PM PDT by chudogg
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To: Kermit
Someone please help me answer a questions. Was it not legal as of 9-11-01 to carry aboard an airplan a pocket knife with maximum blade length of 3"? Why couldn't they have had small folding knives?
68 posted on 06/03/2002 7:31:58 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Kermit;ALL
All of this back and forth about what kind of weapon was used is moot. While it may be inportant to someone, all I know is that until I'm allowed to carry the implement of my choice for my personal self-defense (a handgun), I'm not flying again.

Why would anyone believe anything the govt has to say anymore. Over and over again the govt has been proven to be a bunch of dim bulb, pathological liars.

69 posted on 06/03/2002 8:30:04 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: JohnGalt
I think the $64K question that no one wants to answer is whether the box-cutters were brought through the metal detectors or whether the weapons were stashed on the plane.

I have two boxcutters at work that are imprinted with the logo of the airline that handed them out to customers. Bet they don't do that anymore.

Dave in Eugene

70 posted on 06/03/2002 9:05:42 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly
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To: concerned about politics
Uh...DUH! People were calling family members with their cell phones.

Cell phones don't work too well at 30,000 feet.

---max

71 posted on 06/03/2002 9:25:20 PM PDT by max61
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To: alisasny
I can see a bomb threat with a box cutter working wonders on passengers taken off guard....why resist......the furthust thought from the passengers minds as well was they would never crash into buildings....

That is indeed part of the problem. Another part, I think, is the general attitude of our society that all violence is evil, resistance is futile, trust your govt "professionals" to handle everything, etc. It took the knowledge that death was inevitable to get a few men on one flight to resist. IMHO Jeffrey Snyder has it right in his essay "Nation of Cowards" (written in 1993); resistence to assault should be the norm not the exception.

72 posted on 06/04/2002 4:59:55 PM PDT by alpowolf
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To: Kermit
Using the same logic, what evidence exists that the hijackers didn't use F-16s, hand grenades, aircraft carriers or Trident D-4 boats? Get the point?
73 posted on 06/04/2002 5:11:44 PM PDT by pfflier
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