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Radical Islamists Honored at University of Wisconsin Christians Dismissed from Staff
Holy Bible, Koran | 6/8/02 | M. Curtiss MD

Posted on 06/08/2002 7:03:11 AM PDT by Love of Country

On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Fry MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture at the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam" after two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers calls for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan state no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask an innocuous question.


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To: semper_libertas
"The problem is they no longer have sufficient diginity, or moral bearing, to become aroused by anything other than the most blatant of insults, such as 9/11. "

It would be interesting to see how much support there is now in the US to continue the "War On Terrorism." But, anyway, you are right. The American people are weak now.

41 posted on 06/08/2002 9:12:15 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: norton
The grammatical errors alone are enough to make me doubt this guy has earned the educational requirements of an MD. I know I make an awful lot of careless mistakes while posting but this guy really sucks.


On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Fry MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture at the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam" after two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers calls for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan state no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask an innocuous question.

42 posted on 06/08/2002 9:12:44 AM PDT by adakotab
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To: adakotab
For your reading pleasure.

On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Frey MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam". After two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers called for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims' true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner by the United States government"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan State no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask innocuous questions.

I'm prepared to sue.

43 posted on 06/08/2002 9:14:14 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: FITZ
"I blame the liberal universities for much of what happened Sept 11 and before. Muslims have little contact with real Americans, they meet most Americans in the universities ---they formed an opinion of us from the limp-wristed liberals they've met....

Bingo.

While muslims complain that Americans don't know or understand Islam, the fact is, most Amerrican Christians know a lot more about Islam than most muslims know about Christianity. After you've discussed Koran, try talking about the Bible, or Jesus, with them. Most of them know nothing at all. Their expectation (coming out of their mind-set) is that the Universities would represent the finest in leading christian theology, when the reality is that the theologians in these schools have become so wrapped up secularism and phenomenological approaches that they have made themselves irrelevant to the christian movement in the world today. They just don't matter. Yet the muslim student sees them as normative. Big problem.

44 posted on 06/08/2002 9:17:58 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: adakotab
I would be reluctant to post if I thought most readers would be annoyed by my grammar errors. Yea, it's lazy to not always run through a spell checker, but like many of us here, I don't always do it. As a history major, I would say that Dr. Curtiss wrote pretty well for a science major, even in his first time around. Really good writing almost always requires the services of a skilled editor, but since none of us here have one, we shouldn't expect anything better than what Dr. Curtiss gave us. I certainly understood his initial story and find it a powerful one. If, I as I expect, it is true, Dr. Curtiss's 15 minutes are at hand.

Hmm. I really don't know whether the apostrophe in the last sentence of the previous paragraph was correctly placed. But that "Post Reply" button looks pretty tempting, so . . .

45 posted on 06/08/2002 9:29:43 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Love of Country
However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

And what relevance to the study of medicine did this have?

I am so sorry for your problem. I hope that it can be resolved to the benefit of your family and humankind. This is the most outrageous thing I've heard today. God Bless you and yours.

46 posted on 06/08/2002 9:33:04 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Love of Country
The Universities are first and foremost antiAmerican. Absent this war, Moslems were just more religious nuts.
Now that they have shown the good sense to declare war on America, the Universities adopt them as Saints-who-can do-no-wrong.After all if they want to kill Americans and Jews then they are perforce on the side of the angels. Academia is rapidly becoming a very dangerous "fifth column" which America has not the will, and will never have the will, to deal with, except to apologize to. The bureaucrats and the political elite canot but feel that the professors are wiser than the politicians and should probably be deferred to.
47 posted on 06/08/2002 9:34:06 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: floriduh voter
Click on the link at reply #30 to see what I mean about color.
48 posted on 06/08/2002 9:41:58 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: cookcounty
Discussing the bible with these people is quite hopeless, because wherever the bible is not in agreement with the Koran or with Hadith, it is due to the Christian authors having lied in order to create a religion that would give them position and justify their flouting of Allah's Law.

They enthusiastically agree that Jesus was born of Mary, a virgin, but from that point on all is lies. With that mindset, one cannot argue anything.

49 posted on 06/08/2002 9:44:50 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Love of Country
OK if I use your name when I contact UW?
50 posted on 06/08/2002 9:45:08 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: arthurus
Any ideas on attorneys or conservative legal firepower? Someone want to e-mail O'Reilly, Rush etc,,,, thanks in advance.

DrMike

51 posted on 06/08/2002 9:46:11 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: Love of Country,JohnHuang2
Contact Jay Sekulow at the American Center for Law and Justice.

What you have described here is red meat for those guys.

Johnny, this guy needs your help.

52 posted on 06/08/2002 9:49:18 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Love of Country
Radical Islamists

There is no such thing as an islamist. A person who follows the religion and practices of Islam is a Muslim, not a islamist.

53 posted on 06/08/2002 9:57:42 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Steve Eisenberg;adakotab;Love of Country
As a history major, I would say that Dr. Curtiss wrote pretty well for a science major,
even in his first time around.


During my "tour of duty" in graduate school (biochemistry), trying to
decipher the writing of some professors was a challenge.
I do remember one professor saying he was ashamed of the "C" grades in English
on his transcripts.

As for some M.D.s, I suspect the purposefully make their handwriting so bad in an attempt
to disguise their poor English.

And having been in the "belly of the beast" known as academia, I am reticent to
assign "urban legend" status to any reported outrage of political correctness or ideological
insanity.

For example, a few months back a venerable professor overheard me listening to
a talk radio show on the topic of "how can America tell Israel to hold her punches with
the Palestinians when we kick the Taliban's and Al-Quida's butts?".

The fellow, a devout Democrat, tried to engage me in conversation about this topic; I simply
said it was a complex issue and I could understand valid arguments on both
sides of the issue.

For G-d knows what reason, this didn't seem to be a satisfactory answer; I guess the
proper answer was "Those Isreali b@stards should stand down!", as he launched into an
"Israel as the killer of children" diatribe.

After he finished frothing, I said "OK" and let it die.
After a few minutes it hit me, that this guy had made a speech that would make Pat
Buchanan sound ultra-moderate. Incredible.

But I should not have been suprised; Victor Davis Hanson, who writes for National Review,
(and is a professor of classics) says 90% of academia is for the Palestinians, 90% of
the students are for Israel.
54 posted on 06/08/2002 10:01:37 AM PDT by VOA
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To: MosesKnows
And a Jew is jew but they are sometimes referred to by their not so close friends as zionists. Whats the point?
55 posted on 06/08/2002 10:02:42 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: VOA
Next time refer him to me. :-}
56 posted on 06/08/2002 10:04:16 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Love of Country
Any ideas on attorneys or conservative legal firepower?

I'll second the motion for Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ.
If you want a sample of their approach, you can listen to "Jay Sekulow Live"
(OK, sometimes taped) over the internet from KKLA 99.5FM in Los Angeles...
just go to www.kkla.com and go with the "listen online" options.
The show is on 9:00-9:30AM Pac Time M-F.

I'm not a lawyer, but your situation is at least in the general area of Sekulow's expertise.

Other background on Sekulow (IIRC): Messianic Jew; has argued religious liberty/rights cases
before the US Supreme Court a number of times. He's got the right stuff.
57 posted on 06/08/2002 10:10:14 AM PDT by VOA
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To: jwalsh07
Absolutely
58 posted on 06/08/2002 10:12:41 AM PDT by Love of Country
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To: Love of Country
However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

Sigh.
Thanks for the heads up.

These morons haven't figured out that suicidal "tolerance" is an individual choice and can't be rammed down others' throats.
They will reap what they sow.

Some highly educated Americans are truly ignorant, stupid and clueless.
But very PC; that is tres important...

60 posted on 06/08/2002 10:40:57 AM PDT by Publius6961
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