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This affects many of my friends here in the city. Seems that a lot of people have forgotten about the struggling New Yorkers. Sad.
1 posted on 06/11/2002 2:14:27 PM PDT by nicholle
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2 posted on 06/11/2002 2:15:05 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: nicholle
Mrs. Engstrom, who worked in the Internet division of a financial firm, has been jobless for a year, despite a diligent search and a willingness to take pretty much any job.

I am having trouble believing this lie

3 posted on 06/11/2002 3:00:28 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: nicholle
Yep. Situation is really bad in NYC right now. That is why I started this thread Let's try to help each other out a little.
16 posted on 06/11/2002 4:04:07 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: nicholle
From the "Two Thousand Year Old Man":

Interviewer: What was the main source of transportation back then"

Two Thousand Year Old Man: Fear. You would see a lion and you would run 2 miles!

So my friends, fear is a good thing. It motivates you. It can make you want to work! Starvation used to be a motivation back in the 'old days'. My dad would say to me, "If you don't get off your duff your're going to starve to death. Back then, there was no "welfare state" and people had to work to survive. I guess we are much better off now. Aren't we?

45 posted on 06/11/2002 4:55:30 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: nicholle
I'll make a bet that as soon as the benefits run out, many - if not most - of these people will all of a sudden find jobs. That is if they are really serious about wanting to work.
67 posted on 06/11/2002 7:21:18 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Willie Green
Appears as though reality is starting to 'bite'...
69 posted on 06/11/2002 7:28:08 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: nicholle
More immigration, that will solve the problem.
78 posted on 06/11/2002 9:12:47 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: nicholle
My 2 cents: The best way to handle this new era of toggling labor shortages and massive layoffs, is to realize that the gov't is going to make our lives hell, and it won't end until it goes bankrupt. So, you have to save money while you are working so that when you get laid off, you can go back to school full time. Not only does this pass time until things pick up, but you upgrade/change your skills while getting to use the best job source out there IMO - school job fairs and placement offices. My personal recommendation is avoiding public schools in favor of private vocational schools since scheduling is easier, and you get what you pay for. For those out there that will have to wait until the next cycle to heed my advice, you'll just have to take what is out there until the famine is over - should only be another year or two. I found one job (they contacted me out of the blue via monster.com), but turned it down in favor of finishing an MS degree since I think I can do much better if I wait until next year. One thing you can do now is join groups and associations. The one interview I got since being laid off was for the simple reason that the guy doing the was also a member of Mensa. I have not had much luck networking, but social groups will certainly increase your exposure.
86 posted on 06/11/2002 11:36:45 PM PDT by sixmil
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To: nicholle
"We've always saved for a rainy day, but I think this could very well go into next year," she said. "Then what?"

Get a job?

94 posted on 06/12/2002 5:51:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: nicholle
Andrew M. Cuomo, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for governor, said on Friday that he supported an extension ...

He seems fairly flippant with Other People's Money.

96 posted on 06/12/2002 7:02:46 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: nicholle
"...as many as 100,000 jobless New Yorkers will lose their economic lifeline: temporary unemployment benefits."

Sorry, nicholle, but these folks need to get a friggin' job and quit living off the rest of us who ain't afraid to work!!

There're plenty of jobs out there...MUD

156 posted on 06/12/2002 12:05:58 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: nicholle
Over the next two weeks, as many as 100,000 jobless New Yorkers will lose their economic lifeline: temporary unemployment benefits.

They should have networked. I am confident that there are 100,000 jobs available in New York. Damn, lazy people.

157 posted on 06/12/2002 12:07:54 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: nicholle
I am really tired of the whining on this thread. So much so that I have gotten a log-in after 2 years of lurking. Let me establish some credentials first:

I was employed by a major semiconductor equipment manufacturer in Silicon Valley. I grew up in the Washington D.C. area where I had some experience with the Defense industry in summer jobs in college, but fairly little. After I got my education in CA in semiconductor manufacturing, I stayed there because, well, if you do R&D in making chips smaller, where else would you work? My background was in computational modeling of semiconductor manufacturing chambers and processes, a fairly specialized field.

I have been planning to get married for some time to my fiancee, but we had not been able to make it work easily since she lives in the D.C. area and works for a big defense contractor. We had been debating for some time where we should live and who should move, but after the dot.com bust, it was clear that I should move to D.C., just as soon as the economy turned up so I could find employment. Well, after 9/11 I got real moved to hurry up and get a job in the defense industry. Loud mouthed conservative that I am I told everyone in the office about it. When the next layoff came, well, that's when I got the notice.

After the initial shock wore off (about 1 hour) I determined that I was going to move back to D.C. and not take any jobs in CA. Now don't think that this was some sort of stoic tough chinned reaction when I was moving. I was scared, I ate at least 40 lbs. of choclate, put on weight, dilly-dallied and tried to practice avoidance, but I couldn't avoid my circumstance and it really hurt. But I made my plans, sent my stuff to goodwill that I couldn't take and went straight back to D.C.

Finding a job here was not as easy as it would seem, since although there was a lot of defense sector hiring going on here, it was all only for people with active clearances. Since I had been doing chips for several years, I had no active clearances, and you can't get one without being in a defense contractor. The goverment agencies wouldn't hire me either, since they create the position first and hire to the position. Wasn't much need for chip makers here. So with my family and my fiancee standing on my ass I applied to every job board and went to every job fair and applied to every head hunting firm in the area looking for anything at all that was slightly techie.

To make a long story short, after being rejected by everybody because I didn't have a clearance or wasn't what they were looking for, I got a call from a small company in Fredericksburg, VA who saw my resume on monster.com. I drove down there the next day, (70 miles from my fiancee's house) got an offer at the same money I earned in CA and said yes. So I am now staying in hotels during the week at my own expense until my commuter apartment is available.

In summary my lessons were:
1) There are jobs out there
2) Network with EVERYBODY
3) Be willing to move!
4) Be prepared in your old job to lose it through no fault of your own (Thankfully I did this financially.)
5) Take anything! (You can always look for another job.)
6) LOOK FOR SMALL COMPANIES! THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE HIRING DURING A RECESSION!

Been working here now for a month and a half, and am now loving life.

Trust me, I made all the excuses that have been put on this board while I was unemployed, but the guys here are absolutely right about finding positions. They have not been terribly diplomatic about the truth, but hell I am not going to be diplomatic either, since it is the truth!

There are 280 million people in this country, most of whom are employed and millions of employers looking for solid capable people during any economic climate. If you can't find a job it is due to your lack of imagination or lack of sweat equity. And stop whining because NO ONE WILL HIRE SOMEONE WHO CANNOT GET A JOB FOR THEMSELVES

195 posted on 06/12/2002 1:21:37 PM PDT by Netheron
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To: nicholle
"We've always saved for a rainy day, but I think this could very well go into next year," she said. "Then what?"

She could move to a new location, NYC is a pretty terrible place to live, unless you are one of the apparatchiks that work for the city governmnent.

I'm not talking about the cops and firemen , they mostly live in Long Island anyway.

230 posted on 06/12/2002 8:28:18 PM PDT by Rome2000
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She said that like many of her friends in their 30's, 40's and 50's, she has been living off her savings and unemployment insurance payments, which will run out within weeks.

"We've always saved for a rainy day, but I think this could very well go into next year," she said. "Then what?"

HOW ABOUT FINDING A JOB your not supposed to use unemployment as an excuse to not look for work ITS HELP to pay bills and FIND A JOB

To many people use unemployment as a vacation when the money is gone they cry it wasnt enough i didnt have time if you cant find some type of job in 6 months or more maybe you need to think about a different job path

241 posted on 06/13/2002 5:09:26 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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