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H.L. Mencken on Abraham Lincoln
"Five Men at Random," Prejudices: Third Series, 1922, pp. 171-76. | H.L. Mencken

Posted on 06/20/2002 1:32:32 PM PDT by H.R. Gross

H.L. Mencken on Abraham Lincoln

From "Five Men at Random," Prejudices: Third Series, 1922, pp. 171-76.
First printed, in part, in the Smart Set, May, 1920, p. 141

Some time ago a publisher told me that there are four kinds of books that seldom, if ever, lose money in the United States—first, murder stories; secondly, novels in which the heroine is forcibly overcome by the hero; thirdly, volumes on spiritualism, occultism and other such claptrap, and fourthly, books on Lincoln. But despite all the vast mass of Lincolniana and the constant discussion of old Abe in other ways, even so elemental a problem as that of his religious ideas—surely an important matter in any competent biography—is yet but half solved. Was he a Christian? Did he believe in the Divinity of Jesus? I am left in doubt. He was very polite about it, and very cautious, as befitted a politician in need of Christian votes, but how much genuine conviction was in that politeness? And if his occasional references to Jesus were thus open to question, what of his rather vague avowals of belief in a personal God and in the immortality of the soul? Herndon and some of his other early friends always maintained that he was an atheist, but the Rev. Willian E. Barton, one of the best of later Lincolnologists, argues that this atheism was simply disbelief in the idiotic Methodist and Baptist dogmas of his time—that nine Christian churches out of ten, if he were live today, would admit him to their high privileges and prerogatives without anything worse than a few warning coughs. As for me, I still wonder.

Lincoln becomes the American solar myth, the chief butt of American credulity and sentimentality. Washington, of late years, has bee perceptible humanized; every schoolboy now knows that he used to swear a good deal, and was a sharp trader, and had a quick eye for a pretty ankle. But meanwhile the varnishers and veneerers have been busily converting Abe into a plaster saint, thus marking hum fit for adoration in the Y.M.C.A.’s. All the popular pictures of him show him in his robes of state, and wearing an expression fit for a man about to be hanged. There is, so far as I know, not a single portrait of him showing him smiling—and yet he must have cackled a good deal, first and last: who ever heard of a storyteller who didn’t? Worse, there is an obvious effort to pump all his human weaknesses out of him, an obvious effort to pump all his human weaknesses out of him, and so leave him a mere moral apparition, a sort of amalgam of John Wesley and the Holy Ghost. What could be more absurd? Lincoln, in point of fact, was a practical politician of long experience and high talents, and by no means cursed with idealistic superstitions. Until he emerged from Illinois they always put the women, children and clergy to bed when he got a few gourds of corn aboard, and it is a matter of unescapable record that his career in the State Legislature was indistinguishable from that of a Tammany Nietzsche. Even his handling of the slavery question was that of a politician, not that of a messiah. Nothing alarmed him more than the suspicion that he was an Abolitionist, and Barton tells of an occasion when he actually fled town to avoid meeting the issue squarely. An Abolitionist would have published the Emancipation Proclamation the day after the first battle of Bull Run. But Lincoln waited until the time was more favorable—until Lee had been hurled out of Pennsylvania, and more important still, until the political currents were safely funning his way. Even so, he freed the slaves in only a part of the country: all the rest continued to clank their chains until he himself was an angel in Heaven.

Like William Jennings Bryan, he was a dark horse made suddenly formidable by fortunate rhetoric. The Douglas debate launched hum, and the Cooper Union Speech got him the Presidency. His talent for emotional utterance was an accomplishment of late growth. His early speeches were mere empty fire-works—the hollow rodomontades of the era. But in the middle life he purged his style of ornament and it became almost badly simple—and it is for that simplicity that he is remembered today. The Gettysburg speech is at once the shortest and the most famous oration in American history. Put beside it, all the whoopings of the Websters, Sumners and Everetts seem gaudy and silly It is eloquence brought to a pellucid and almost gem-like perfection—the highest emotion reduced to a few poetical phrases. Nothing else precisely like it is to be found in the whole range of oratory. Lincoln himself never even remotely approached it. It is genuinely stupendous.

But let us not forget that it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it. Put it into the cold words of everyday. The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination—"that government of the people, by the people, for the people," should not perish from the earth. It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in that battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves. What was the practical effect of the battle of Gettysburg? What else than the destruction of the old sovereignty of the States, i.e., of the people of the States? The Confederates went into battle free; they came out with their freedom subject to the supervision and veto of the rest of the country—and for nearly twenty years that veto was so effective that they enjoyed scarcely more liberty, in the political sense, than so many convicts in the penitentiary.


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To: TheDon
"It is rather offensive."

And you are rather prissy - & that is especially ridiculous in a man.

I'll bet your idea of 'conflict resolution' had you on the receiving end quite a bit as a kid, right? I wonder who decides when the train of abuses is long enough? Left up to people like you, it becomes infinite. And there were plenty like you around AFTER the declaration - they were called tories.

'Insurrection.' More slop. The states were not subordinate to DC - & would not have joined the compact if that had been the price of entrance. The south did not march on DC, did not try to wrest control of the DC govt - no insurrection (again, consult a dictionary...).

I am beginning to think a man that can continue to cling as you do,a man who can conclude that the men who refused to bend over for the british empire would then turn around & bend over for despotism & tyranny out of DC, is a man for whom being bent over is normal posture.
181 posted on 06/26/2002 12:53:24 AM PDT by budo
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To: budo
My source for the tariff information was "Lifeline of the Confederacy: Blockade running during the Civil War" by Stephen Wise. He references a government document, the "Statement Showing the Amount of Revenue Collected Annually", Executive Document No.33, 36th Congress, 1st Session, 1860. What source does your book use?

As for your second point, I'm referring to May 1861 when the south passed their tariff bill. A time when the south was not outmanned. A time when the south was not desperate. A time when the blockade had not been established, so the south wasn't in desperate need of everthing. And a time when the south had not kicked the hell out of anything, except civil liberties and their own constitution (but that is a topic for another post). In short, the tariff was the first thing the south turned to for revenue. Why would that be if the tariff was such a bone of contention prior to the war? Why wouldn't they try other sources before turning to something as hateful as a tariff?

182 posted on 06/26/2002 4:18:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: budo
Jefferson Davis was explicitly NOT tried for treason because his northern captors knew they would lose in open court on constitutional grounds.

Finally someone who admits that there were Constitutional grounds why Davis and his gang were never tried. But, I assume, that you arguement would be that secession was protected by the Constitution and that is, of course, false. Davis wasn't tried because the 14th Amendment had been ratified. Since that prevented the southern leadership from holding elected or appointed office in the Federal government, Chief Justice Chase's opinion was that any trial, conviction, and sentence for treason would violate their 5th Amendment protection against double jeopardy.

183 posted on 06/26/2002 4:23:23 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: budo
The states were not subordinate to DC - & would not have joined the compact if that had been the price of entrance. The south did not march on DC, did not try to wrest control of the DC govt - no insurrection

From earlier posts of mine:

The Constitution is the law of the land. States rights are circumscribed by Constitutional bounds, and subordinate to the Constitution in the powers over which the Constitution enumerates as in the federal government's sphere.

Article VI, Clause 2
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land"

Insurrection
The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.

Again, from an earlier post of mine:
Abraham Lincoln
FIRST INAUGURAL ADDRESS
MONDAY, MARCH 4, 1861

...

"I therefore consider that in view of the Constitution and the laws the Union is unbroken, and to the extent of my ability, I shall take care, as the Constitution itself expressly enjoins upon me, that the laws of the Union be faithfully executed in all the States. Doing this I deem to be only a simple duty on my part, and I shall perform it so far as practicable unless my rightful masters, the American people, shall withhold the requisite means or in some authoritative manner direct the contrary. I trust this will not be regarded as a menace, but only as the declared purpose of the Union that it will constitutionally defend and maintain itself.

In doing this there needs to be no bloodshed or violence, and there shall be none unless it be forced upon the national authority. The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere. Where hostility to the United States in any interior locality shall be so great and universal as to prevent competent resident citizens from holding the Federal offices, there will be no attempt to force obnoxious strangers among the people for that object. While the strict legal right may exist in the Government to enforce the exercise of these offices, the attempt to do so would be so irritating and so nearly impracticable withal that I deem it better to forego for the time the uses of such offices.

... All profess to be content in the Union if all constitutional rights can be maintained. Is it true, then, that any right plainly written in the Constitution has been denied? I think not. Happily, the human mind is so constituted that no party can reach to the audacity of doing this. Think, if you can, of a single instance in which a plainly written provision of the Constitution has ever been denied. If by the mere force of numbers a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might in a moral point of view justify revolution; certainly would if such right were a vital one. But such is not our case. All the vital rights of minorities and of individuals are so plainly assured to them by affirmations and negations, guaranties and prohibitions, in the Constitution that controversies never arise concerning them."

You see, from the definition, the Southern state governments were in "open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government." The President is bound by oath to uphold the Constitution, which the South was revolting against. Under these circumstances, war was inevitable.

...the men who refused to bend over for the british empire would then turn around & bend over for despotism & tyranny out of DC...

Care to attempt to list a comparison of the abuses suffered by the colonists at the hands of the British government versus those suffered by the Southern states at the hands of the federal government? Also, pay attention to the long suffering attempts by the colonists to simply have the British government recognize the colonists rights as British citizens before resorting to the sword, after all other avenues yielded no success. I'll give you some help, for the colonists, start with the Declaration of Independence. I'll let you come up with the list of abuses for the Southern states, if you can.

You will not be able to make such a comparison, because there is none to be made. That is what I find offensive about such an argument. To compare the two situations is what is offensive.

184 posted on 06/26/2002 7:56:55 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: budo
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo cus/news/703308/posts?page=162 #162
185 posted on 06/26/2002 8:00:08 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: budo
At any rate, you have way too much regard for mere legality

Did you really mean to say this?

186 posted on 06/26/2002 8:01:20 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Non-Sequitur
Do you have a link to support that double jep. stuff you're selling? Never heard of that one.

The truth is that Andrew Johnson pardoned Davis, just before a 3 judge panel could be assembled to vote on whether or not to indict him. Many wanted him tried, but those who looked into the Union's case started having second thoughts. After the pardon, they quickly lost interest. It was a convenient excuse not to try him, since he would have proven secession to be constitutional.

A voluntary Union is a more Perfect Union.

187 posted on 06/26/2002 5:31:16 PM PDT by H.Akston
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To: budo
But they (Founders and Southerners) were all secessionists.

The Union Party Radicals of the 1860s were of another spirit. Thank you for not personally attacking me. :)

You must be a Southern Gentleman.

188 posted on 06/26/2002 5:40:17 PM PDT by H.Akston
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To: budo
What is the difference between a Federalist and an anti-federalist? They both seem benign to me. The real villians were the radical republicans = Nationalists.
189 posted on 06/26/2002 5:43:28 PM PDT by H.Akston
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To: H.Akston
There are several excellent biographies of Davis which go into the details of his post-war legal issues to one extent or another, like "Jefferson Davis, American" by William Cooper. Here is a website which also gives a fairly detailed overview of the situation. Johnson never pardoned Davis, either. He just delayed acting on the issue, the trial of Davis remained on the court docket until 1869. As for Davis himself, he was never pardoned having never been convicted of a crime. But he did have his citizenship restored by Jimmy Carter, for all the good that did.

As for a trial, if there is anyone who thinks that Davis would not have been convicted if placed on trial then they are unbelievably naieve. And such a trial would have done nothing to prove or disprove the legality of secession. Than was decided by the Supreme Court in 1869. It's illegal.

190 posted on 06/26/2002 7:15:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: WhiskeyPapa
A voluntary Union is a more Perfect Union.
191 posted on 06/27/2002 2:51:49 AM PDT by H.Akston
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To: H.Akston
A voluntary Union is a more Perfect Union.

Our Union -is- voluntary.

When the people grow tired of it, they can exercise their constitutional right to amend it, or their revolutionary right to overthrow it.

Walt

192 posted on 06/27/2002 4:36:54 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"When the people grow tired of it, they can exercise their constitutional right to amend it, or their revolutionary right to overthrow it."

The people of the states may disunite without being killed, by holding state conventions and voting to secede?

193 posted on 06/27/2002 3:05:38 PM PDT by H.Akston
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To: WhiskeyPapa
When the people grow tired of it, they can exercise their constitutional right to amend it, or their revolutionary right to overthrow it.

You mean like New Yorkers reserved the right to do when they ratified the Constitution:

That all Power is originally vested in and consequently derived from the People, and that Government is instituted by them for their common Interest Protection and Security.
That the enjoyment of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness are essential rights which every Government ought to respect and preserve.
That the Powers of Government may be reassumed by the People, whensoever it shall become necessary to their Happiness that every Power, Jurisdiction and right, which is not by the said Constitution clearly delegated to the Congress of the United States, or the departments of the Government thereof, remains to the People of the several States [emphasis added for Walt], or to their respective State Governments to whom they may have granted the same; And that those Clauses in the said Constitution, which declare, that Congress shall not have or exercise certain Powers, do not imply that Congress is entitled to any Powers not given by the said Constitution; but such Clauses are to be construed either as exceptions to certain specified Powers, or as inserted merely for greater Caution.

?

194 posted on 06/29/2002 4:39:32 AM PDT by H.Akston
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To: r9etb
And why did slavery figure so prominently in those wily Southerners' Declarations of Secession?

What was featured in South Carolina's declaration was not slavery but the failure of the north to enforce the provision in the Constitution requiring the return of fugitive slaves. In other words, we didn't break the compact, you did.

195 posted on 01/18/2011 10:04:46 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp
What was featured in South Carolina's declaration was not slavery but the failure of the north to enforce the provision in the Constitution requiring the return of fugitive slaves. In other words, we didn't break the compact, you did.

lol...

"It's not about slavery, it's just about our slaves."

Honestly ... do you nutjobs even read what you write?

196 posted on 01/19/2011 6:32:50 AM PST by r9etb
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To: SeeSharp
What was featured in South Carolina's declaration was not slavery but the failure of the north to enforce the provision in the Constitution requiring the return of fugitive slaves. In other words, we didn't break the compact, you did.

lol...

"It's not about slavery, it's just about our slaves."

Honestly ... do you nutjobs even read what you write?

197 posted on 01/19/2011 6:33:03 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Do you ever read what you are replying to? The SC declaration establishes who broke the compact.


198 posted on 01/19/2011 7:38:43 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

The comment stands. Your boys gambled and lost it all, over slavery. What a dismal, wretched little cause.


199 posted on 01/19/2011 7:50:12 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
The comment stands. Your boys gambled and lost it all, over slavery. What a dismal, wretched little cause.

You cultists are all the same. When logic fails, just spew insults.

200 posted on 01/19/2011 7:55:39 AM PST by SeeSharp
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