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White House Says Court Ruling On Pledge Is 'Wrong'(Graham: Constitutional Amendment If Necessary)
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 6/26/02 | Jim Burns

Posted on 06/26/2002 3:17:41 PM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - The White House Wednesday called a California appeals court ruling on the Pledge of Allegiance "wrong," and announced that the Justice Department plans to take action.

The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the pledge is unconstitutional and should not be recited in schools, because the phrase "under God" violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution.

"The view of the White House is that this was a wrong decision and the Department of Justice is now evaluating how to seek redress," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said.

"The Declaration of Independence refers to God as the creator four different times. Congress begins each session of the Congress each day with a prayer and our currency says 'In God We Trust,'" he said.

Fleischer emphasized that the decision is one from a circuit court that only affects nine states and not a national court decision.

"I think that people are very naturally ... going to react strongly opposed to this," he said. "I think this decision will not sit well with the American people and it certainly does not sit well with the president of the United States.

"I think most Americans have faith in God, and they are going to express [their faith] and the pledge everyday that they can," he said.

Meanwhile, Rev. Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition said the ruling should be a wake-up call for President Bush to appoint more conservative court judges -- even if it means bypassing the Senate.

"We can expect more anti-God decisions like the one just handed down by the judicial tyrants in San Francisco, if we don't get good conservative judges on the federal bench," Sheldon said. "Senators Daschle, Leahy, and McCain need to get out of the way and confirm Bush's nominees quickly.

"We're sick and tired of Tom Daschle blocking the confirmation of God-fearing judges like Charles Pickering," he continued. "Americans want men like Pickering on the bench who respect America's religious heritage and understand that we truly are a nation under God.

"If Senators Daschle, Leahy, and McCain don't get out of the way this week, I think it's time for President Bush to begin making recess appointments of his judicial nominees," he said. "Enough is enough!"

Rep. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a member of the House Judiciary Committee, vowed to go a step further if needed.

"If necessary, I will offer a constitutional amendment to ensure Americans can voluntarily say the [Pledge of Allegiance] in public and private settings without being in violation of the law," said Graham.

"The reference in the Pledge to being 'one nation under God' is in no way the establishment of religion by the government. If America ever needed God's blessing and guidance, it's now," he concluded.

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To: Cultural Jihad
yooooo hoooooo! I think you can answer sodden rawk's question quite well.
101 posted on 06/26/2002 4:24:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: DJ88
Our kids CANNOT say the Pledge of Allegiance at school anymore

Only at public school, a place they shouldn't be to begin with. Real conservatives wouldn't even be conceding that public schools have a right to exist, much less what should and shouldn't be recited in them.

102 posted on 06/26/2002 4:26:38 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: aristeides
When will they be taking off? :-)
103 posted on 06/26/2002 4:27:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: McGavin999; deport; Miss Marple; maica; Amelia; PhiKapMom
Do you suppose McCain will now continue to hold up Bush's appointments to the bench??????
104 posted on 06/26/2002 4:28:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: anniegetyourgun
Your children are not required to say the pledge of allegiance either. Just as they are not required to pray during a moment of silence.

This ruling is about what the teacher says, not what the students say. I guess you missed that distinction in all the emotional ranting going on.

Perhaps you will see to it that they are not required to learned the preamble to the declaration of independence either. I'm sure you will do all you can to protect them from eternity in heaven with a God who loves them so.

That is your superstition, not mine. You have a right to it, but you do not a right to have it promulgated by a state institution. This decision is about that difference. It should not be such a difficult concept to understand.

105 posted on 06/26/2002 4:29:04 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Goldi-Lox
We need to play Red Skelton's reading of the Pledge on every radio...every hour.

How's that gonna show 'em? Radio stations are privately owned.

106 posted on 06/26/2002 4:29:24 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: All
I just heard a preview of tonight's Bill O'Reilly's show. He said that they have evidence that the judge on this issue is wrong. Stay tuned to Fox's O'Reilly.
107 posted on 06/26/2002 4:30:14 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: mlo
They don't.
109 posted on 06/26/2002 4:30:24 PM PDT by alnick
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To: PhiKapMom
What Feinstein was referring to was the proposal that the Ninth Circuit be split in two, which the Congress has seriously considered in the past. I think now is the time to go ahead with that proposal.
110 posted on 06/26/2002 4:30:59 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: mlo
You're either being deliberately obtuse, or else you don't understand what's going on here, or maybe you're an atheist, or maybe you're just plain stupid and can't help yourself. This is more than a simple ruling on a simple phrase that can or can't be recited. There's a lot more to it than that. This may be no big deal to you, but it should be patently obvious to you that it is a big deal to a lot of people. Most people in this country believe in God. There has been a steady trickle of court rulings that have effectively banned any mention of God, incorrectly interpreting the Constitution to create a false notion of separation of church and state. The amendment dealing with establishment of religion does NOT mean you can't talk about God or say His name in public schools or other public settings. The ACLU and these other groups will next go for "In God We Trust" on our currency. The anti-God people in this country accomplish their agenda by chipping away, little by little. This is just one move in a long line of moves, and they will keep on as long as people like you sit back and do nothing.

Please respect the fact that most of us feel very strongly about this, that we're not stupid or blind or unfamiliar with the law, and above all, stop feigning ignorance about why we're upset!
111 posted on 06/26/2002 4:31:09 PM PDT by wimpycat
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To: Howlin
I think they take a July 4th recess. If so, it should be about to begin.
112 posted on 06/26/2002 4:32:32 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: southern rock
as part of the "civil disobedience." Instead of stifling the Pledge, it should be everywhere, said by everyone, constantly, until this decision is overturned...one way or another.
113 posted on 06/26/2002 4:33:31 PM PDT by Goldi-Lox
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To: mlo
Clueless you... it is a well established decision that those whose religion forbids pledging to flags (e.g. Jehovah's Witnesses) are not harmed by being allowed to remain silent while the (gasp) TEACHER leads the rest of the class. Let's turn it right back on you: what kind of nonfaith do you have, that a so called "superstition" can rouse you so? Were the teacher to lead a recitation about the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus would you be so upset? Maybe the "superstition" is rousing things in your conscience you don't want to hear?
114 posted on 06/26/2002 4:33:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Howlin
Do you suppose McCain will now continue to hold up Bush's appointments to the bench??????

This ruling makes the debate about judgeships very graphic to me....IMO it's more the liberal judges making rulings like this that are destroying the culture than it is the Congress....(no, I'm not saying Congress is perfect, but I don't think they are destroying our culture brick by brick like judges are.)

We need to get the Senate back & get those judicial appointments moving.

116 posted on 06/26/2002 4:36:12 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: mlo
Atheists and pagans don't have rights to their beliefs?

Of course they have the right to their beliefs. They do not however have the right to suppress the expressions of the beliefs of others because they claim that they are somehow injured by hearing people around them utter the name of God.

117 posted on 06/26/2002 4:38:01 PM PDT by alnick
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Clueless you... it is a well established decision that those whose religion forbids pledging to flags (e.g. Jehovah's Witnesses) are not harmed by being allowed to remain silent while the (gasp) TEACHER leads the rest of the class.

The decision says there is harm. If I have to come down on one side or the other I say it is right.

Let's turn it right back on you: what kind of nonfaith do you have, that a so called "superstition" can rouse you so? Were the teacher to lead a recitation about the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus would you be so upset? Maybe the "superstition" is rousing things in your conscience you don't want to hear?

Rouse me? It's not me talking about how enraged I am, that's the other side. I'm only arguing my views on an issue I hadn't given a second thought to before today. Trust me, I'm not riled. My arguements are valid though. It is those you should address.

118 posted on 06/26/2002 4:38:24 PM PDT by mlo
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To: alnick
Well said.
120 posted on 06/26/2002 4:38:47 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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