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Dems Claim Bush and Cheney Killed Flight 93 Heroes
Newsmax.com ^ | June 29, 2002 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 06/29/2002 10:42:42 AM PDT by Paul Atreides

A web site with ties to the Democratic Party and ex-President Bill Clinton is charging that President Bush is most likely "personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93," claiming that evidence shows Bush and Vice President Cheney ordered the plane shot down on 9-11.

The left-wing web site Democrats.com goes so far as to contend that the famous photo depicting President Bush talking on the phone that morning aboard Air Force One was likely taken as Bush was authorizing Cheney to give the order to have Flight 93 blown from the sky.

"Here is a very likely scenario," says the web site. "Bush was approving the shooting down of hijacked airliners, which led Dick Cheney to order the shooting down of Flight 93 - with all of the Heroes on board."

The photo, offered earlier this year for $150 as part of a GOP fundraising package, has the Democratic web site complaining that sale of the picture was "a huge insult to the victims of 9-11 — who died never knowing they were helping raise big bucks for the Republican party."

The report, by Democrats.com co-founder Bob Fertik, blames Bush - and not the terrorist hijackers - for killing the Flight 93 heroes:

"A careful analysis of all available evidence points to a shootdown as the most likely cause of the crash of Flight 93 - thus making George W. Bush personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93."

Democrats.com accuses the Bush administration of perpetrating a massive cover-up by going along with the convenient cover story that it was the battle between Flight 93's passengers and the plane's hijackers that caused it to crash into a rural field in Shanksville, Penn.

"Certainly, the White House has every reason to lie," says the Democratic Party's web promoters. "After all, it would look pretty horrible if Bush and Cheney were responsible for the deaths of the crew and passengers about Flight 93, even if the planes were shot down to protect Washington DC."

"Unfortunately for the White House" says web site continues, "there is overwhelming evidence that Flight 93 was shot down - and no evidence at all that the Heroes succeeded in taking control of the cockpit."

In fact, no one has ever claimed that Flight 93's heroes "succeeded in taking control of the cockpit." Otherwise the crash might have been prevented. The question is, did their failed efforts to regain control distract the hijackers long enough to foil their ultimate plans to attack Washington, D.C.

Given their public comments to date, the families of Flight 93's heroes seem to have no doubt about the cause of the crash.

Last April, after hearing the in-flight recording of the plane's final 30 minutes in a special session arranged by the FBI, family members seemed convinced that their relatives' heroic effort to storm the cockpit - and not a missile from an F-16 - was what brought the plane down.

"I felt incredible pride," said Deena Burnett, whose husband, Tom, died on the United Airlines plane, told reporters after hearing the tape. "It was obvious they all acted heroically."

"I never doubted that there were specific individuals who worked together, and the tape confirmed that," said Alice Hoglan, mother of Flight 93 hero Mark Bingham. "I never doubted that the cockpit had been taken over by terrorists who were thwarted, and the tape definitely confirmed that."

Hoglan, who along with the other Flight 93 relatives was asked by the FBI not to discuss specifics, described the tape as "wonderful in a strange and odd way" - hardly the words of someone reacting to evidence that her son was killed on orders of the president.

Further proof of a shootdown, Democrats.com argues, comes from reports that debris from Flight 93 was discovered eight miles away from the actual crash site, a detail the continues to perplex those on both sides of the political aisle.

But if Flight 93 did explode in midair, there are other plausible explanations, such as the bomb the hijackers said they had and threatened to detonate, according to several passengers who relayed the news in cell phone calls to relatives.

But Democrats.com doesn't let details like that get in the way of accusing President Bush of responsibility for the crash and the ensuing "cover-up."

"The FBI has stated that there was no evidence of a bomb at the crash site," the web site argues. "If the hijackers detonated a bomb, it is hard to imagine a reason why the FBI would cover it up."

Democrats.com has at least nominal connections to ex-President Bill Clinton.

Former Clinton pollster Stan Greenberg sits on the web site's advisory board.

And last August, Democrats.com boasted it had "arranged with the office of former President Clinton for birthday greetings sent by e-mail to be delivered to him personally," adding, "Please join us in thanking the last legally elected President of the United States for his dedication to public service."

On its "Community" page, the left-wing web site explains:

"Democrats.com is the largest online community of Democrats. We have created a unique space where Democrats can meet, discuss, and work towards building a stronger Democratic Party.... Take our Voter Pledge to sweep all Republicans out of office."


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To: Timesink
The owner of RATS.com is the former Webmaster of the White House that is a clinton lackey if I remember right!
121 posted on 06/29/2002 12:36:45 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: ActionNewsBill
"No depth is too low for the Democrats to sink. Theirs is a quest for power. They will do anything for it."
"And that is different from Republicans.....how?"
There are some Republicans who are both wise and decent and who do not seek power at any cost. Few if any Democrats are like this.

George W. Bush is an excellent example.

Republicans generally represent the American Heartland, the American spirit, everything that made the United States the greatest nation the world has ever known.

Democrats without exception represent decadence and policies and attitudes that threaten to destroy the United States. These people, their policies, and their attitudes are directly responsible for the September 11 Massacre. If these people succeed, they will cause the destruction of the U.S., of Western Civilization, of liberty, and of representative constitutional government.

There are corrupt, stupid, misguided, and decadent Republicans, but not nearly so many as there are Democrats, and there are Republicans who do not hunger for power.

George W. Bush would not do anything for power. He has not been on a quest for power.

"No depth is too low for the Democrats to sink. Theirs is a quest for power. They will do anything for it."
"And that is different from Republicans.....how?"
This does not apply to George W. Bush, the Republican leader, for a starter...
122 posted on 06/29/2002 12:36:59 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Paul Atreides
Take a look at the nice picture they have in the middle.

http://www.democrats.com

They're so tolerant, doncha think? ::sarcasm::

Little bastards.

The worst part of all of this is that they actually think they're right...

Au revoir,

*Belle

123 posted on 06/29/2002 12:41:24 PM PDT by belleoftheball414
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To: Timesink
"The signals from the tinfoil on their heads are making it hard for them to concentrate?"

It is a well known fact among the initiated that the most technologically advanced forms of tin foil hats are SOOOOO powerful there IS the possibility that they magnify the wearers inner thought patterns to such a DISTRACTING degree that the assimilation of outside stimulus is impossible.

Therefore, all wearers of the most advanced tin foil head gear are strongly advised to stick bits of chocolate into the nooks and crannies of their hat. The cocoa butter in the chocolate has the effect of filtering out the noise of the screaming voices in the wearers' heads.

TIP: The scent of the chocolate also enables the wearer to disguise him/herself as an unobtrusive sweet in a candy dish.

124 posted on 06/29/2002 12:49:38 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Paul Atreides
Anyone with a miniscule brain could figure out from the impact site that the plane plowed into the ground at a high rate of speed. Never heard any reports of debris found miles away. Besides, if a Democrat says it, it's naturally a lie with some small basis on actual events. Planes were not shot down, but if they were - better shot down than on the White House lawn.
125 posted on 06/29/2002 1:03:26 PM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: FreeTally
I'm applogize if my comments seemed childish or offensive.

No problem. We're all just doing the online equivalent of sitting on the front porch shooting the doo-doo, anyway.

After a couple too many drinks, of course.

126 posted on 06/29/2002 1:04:43 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Lower55
Sure you can.....first the cabin was stormed, but say it was 'unsuccessful'. Naturally, the plane would be shot down. Another non-story from the Demoncraps.
127 posted on 06/29/2002 1:06:45 PM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: Paul Atreides
So what if they did shoot it down.
128 posted on 06/29/2002 1:08:21 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: FreeTally
"Thats funny, some other poster said it was fact that it is run by the DNC. Maybe you two should get your propaganda straight."

The DNC are terrorzing civilians with this stupid, unfounded story, and the Libertarian crowd which seems prevalant on FR during the weekends is buying their propaganda, hook line and sinker and sure seems terrified enough...'cause they're so terrified of government in general they would not believe the truth even if they were witnesses...not when a gibment agency is might be involved. Not even when a gubment agency was the target.

129 posted on 06/29/2002 1:10:32 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: dighton
Bob Fertik is one of America’s leading Internet political strategists - and also a leading feminist.

How can a man be a feminist, or is he in other words a "Fruit?"

130 posted on 06/29/2002 1:11:36 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: RasterMaster
These were featured, prominently, on their website...

It shows what mentality of people they actually are. Now, if you'll excuse me; I have to go take a shower, after going there.

131 posted on 06/29/2002 1:14:19 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Ingtar
"As to the items found up to 8 miles away: this sounds more like what would be found if the passengers opened a door to distract the hijackers"

Yep. Decompression.

132 posted on 06/29/2002 1:16:23 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: hoosierham
What's the color of the night time sky on your world ?
133 posted on 06/29/2002 1:17:31 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: Paul Atreides
Democrats.com accuses the Bush administration of perpetrating a massive cover-up by going along with the convenient cover story that it was the battle between Flight 93's passengers and the plane's hijackers that caused it to crash into a rural field in Shanksville, Penn.

.... and Todd Beemer's wife being invited to the President's speech was a phoney prop and her speaking around the country, and the cell phone call from the plane and those who claimed they heard him say "let's roll" before taking on the highjackers were lying...etc etc etc.
Right.

I hope the Democrats keep this crap up so everybody can see them for the hysterical delusional mental cases they really are.

134 posted on 06/29/2002 1:18:59 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: RasterMaster
I said "they". You missed my point.
135 posted on 06/29/2002 1:20:45 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: Paul Atreides
"All of this makes me think of the media, and some historians, lamenting the fact that Bubba didn't have a 9-11 in order to have his precious 'legacy.' "

Which reminds me...isn't this the SAME DNC which spent two years convincing the world that GW is stupid? An intellectual lightweight...now they're coming up with another theory which would require a considerable amount of evil genius, as well as a lightening quick mind, on Bush's part? (The "Bush engineered 9-11 propaganda" didn't work, so they're backing down a notch?)

136 posted on 06/29/2002 1:24:47 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Jorge
Next thing you know, the Bush family will be the cause of the Titanic sinking.
137 posted on 06/29/2002 1:25:28 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Timesink
The signals from the tinfoil on their heads are making it hard for them to concentrate?

Yes and for all their impressive psychic powers..they can see things none of the rest of us can see....and yet they can't seem to comprehend facts that are right in front of their face.

138 posted on 06/29/2002 1:26:50 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: cake_crumb
Don't forget; according to them, Cheney is pulling all the strings. It's a good thing W wasn't having that colonoscopy during all of that or they would be claiming that Cheney orchestrated the whole thing during that two hours.

Isn't it interesting how people, with the brains God gave a goose, are trying to cast W as unintelligent?

139 posted on 06/29/2002 1:28:33 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Jorge
If this had happened on Bubba's watch, and Washington D.C. was just a smoking hole in the ground, they would be singing his praises. I honestly believe that the Dim Party has turned into a Clinton Cult.
140 posted on 06/29/2002 1:30:07 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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