Dems Claim Bush and Cheney Killed Flight 93 Heroes

Newsmax.com ^ | June 29, 2002 | Carl Limbacher

[Paul Atreides]

A web site with ties to the Democratic Party and ex-President Bill Clinton is charging that President Bush is most likely "personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93," claiming that evidence shows Bush and Vice President Cheney ordered the plane shot down on 9-11.

The left-wing web site Democrats.com goes so far as to contend that the famous photo depicting President Bush talking on the phone that morning aboard Air Force One was likely taken as Bush was authorizing Cheney to give the order to have Flight 93 blown from the sky.

"Here is a very likely scenario," says the web site. "Bush was approving the shooting down of hijacked airliners, which led Dick Cheney to order the shooting down of Flight 93 - with all of the Heroes on board."

The photo, offered earlier this year for $150 as part of a GOP fundraising package, has the Democratic web site complaining that sale of the picture was "a huge insult to the victims of 9-11 — who died never knowing they were helping raise big bucks for the Republican party."

The report, by Democrats.com co-founder Bob Fertik, blames Bush - and not the terrorist hijackers - for killing the Flight 93 heroes:

"A careful analysis of all available evidence points to a shootdown as the most likely cause of the crash of Flight 93 - thus making George W. Bush personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93."

Democrats.com accuses the Bush administration of perpetrating a massive cover-up by going along with the convenient cover story that it was the battle between Flight 93's passengers and the plane's hijackers that caused it to crash into a rural field in Shanksville, Penn.

"Certainly, the White House has every reason to lie," says the Democratic Party's web promoters. "After all, it would look pretty horrible if Bush and Cheney were responsible for the deaths of the crew and passengers about Flight 93, even if the planes were shot down to protect Washington DC."

"Unfortunately for the White House" says web site continues, "there is overwhelming evidence that Flight 93 was shot down - and no evidence at all that the Heroes succeeded in taking control of the cockpit."

In fact, no one has ever claimed that Flight 93's heroes "succeeded in taking control of the cockpit." Otherwise the crash might have been prevented. The question is, did their failed efforts to regain control distract the hijackers long enough to foil their ultimate plans to attack Washington, D.C.

Given their public comments to date, the families of Flight 93's heroes seem to have no doubt about the cause of the crash.

Last April, after hearing the in-flight recording of the plane's final 30 minutes in a special session arranged by the FBI, family members seemed convinced that their relatives' heroic effort to storm the cockpit - and not a missile from an F-16 - was what brought the plane down.

"I felt incredible pride," said Deena Burnett, whose husband, Tom, died on the United Airlines plane, told reporters after hearing the tape. "It was obvious they all acted heroically."

"I never doubted that there were specific individuals who worked together, and the tape confirmed that," said Alice Hoglan, mother of Flight 93 hero Mark Bingham. "I never doubted that the cockpit had been taken over by terrorists who were thwarted, and the tape definitely confirmed that."

Hoglan, who along with the other Flight 93 relatives was asked by the FBI not to discuss specifics, described the tape as "wonderful in a strange and odd way" - hardly the words of someone reacting to evidence that her son was killed on orders of the president.

Further proof of a shootdown, Democrats.com argues, comes from reports that debris from Flight 93 was discovered eight miles away from the actual crash site, a detail the continues to perplex those on both sides of the political aisle.

But if Flight 93 did explode in midair, there are other plausible explanations, such as the bomb the hijackers said they had and threatened to detonate, according to several passengers who relayed the news in cell phone calls to relatives.

But Democrats.com doesn't let details like that get in the way of accusing President Bush of responsibility for the crash and the ensuing "cover-up."

"The FBI has stated that there was no evidence of a bomb at the crash site," the web site argues. "If the hijackers detonated a bomb, it is hard to imagine a reason why the FBI would cover it up."

Democrats.com has at least nominal connections to ex-President Bill Clinton.

Former Clinton pollster Stan Greenberg sits on the web site's advisory board.

And last August, Democrats.com boasted it had "arranged with the office of former President Clinton for birthday greetings sent by e-mail to be delivered to him personally," adding, "Please join us in thanking the last legally elected President of the United States for his dedication to public service."

On its "Community" page, the left-wing web site explains:

"Democrats.com is the largest online community of Democrats. We have created a unique space where Democrats can meet, discuss, and work towards building a stronger Democratic Party.... Take our Voter Pledge to sweep all Republicans out of office."

[Dales]

Your propaganda isn't taking root. You will have to try harder.

[max61]

" claiming that evidence shows Bush and Vice President Cheney ordered the plane shot down on 9-11.

If anyone has evidence of this, let's see it. I'm sure we can come up with some evidence for the moon being made of cheese to go with it.

---max

[mhking]

See HOLY SEE ADHERES TO CONVENTION AGAINST TORTURE ;-)

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition....

[Wondervixen]

Cousair, Hon, you may be right and you may be wrong, but either way it should be a win-win for the Bush Administration and a huge blow to Clinton and his scumbags.

If we did NOT shoot it down, the people on board truly WERE heroes in causing the crash.

If we DID shoot it down, it was the right thing to do to avoid catastrophe in numbers we have no way of calculating.

If the Dums want to alledge that Bush/Cheney are guilty of MURDER, extinction is their prize! Keep those gums flapping with your brains out of gear Slick & company...We NEED your cooperation!

[solo gringo]

I have never logged on to the site and do not intend to.I have seen some comments and like i said imho they try to and have failed to start any upriseing so far thay are a bunch of slime and most people know it.

[FreeTally]

You response makes absolutely no sense. The flight recorder is not available to the public. To make a claim about something one has not heard is at least silly.

[Cachelot]

Wait for Michael Rivero to join in the chorus and peddle this to all insane jihad sites in the world.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"Unfortunately for the White House" says web site continues, "there is overwhelming evidence that Flight 93 was shot down - and no evidence at all that the Heroes succeeded in taking control of the cockpit."

Apparently these jackoffs have never bothered to listen to the recording from the Cleveland Center air traffic control. Nowhere in that recording is there any mention of any non-civilian aircraft in the area.And what exactly is this "overwhelming eveidence" they speak of that prove Flight 93 was shot down? Hmmm?

"After all, it would look pretty horrible if Bush and Cheney were responsible for the deaths of the crew and passengers about Flight 93, even if the planes were shot down to protect Washington DC."

More BS. I think that most Americans would have been proud of the President for having the guts to do it and proud of the Air Force for reponing so quickly.

A-holes.

[Dales]

LOL

Whatever you say, Eisenhower. You just go on believing that people are buying what you are trying to peddle.

[FreeTally]

So is democrats.com run by the DNC or a terrorist front group?(Please, no jokes about the DNC being a terrorist front group ;-/)

Personally, I do not doubt it is run in some way by the DNC. I just thought it was humorous that you guys were simply discounting the "shoot down" theory because of the source of this stupid, tasteless article. It looked like the typical "Republicans" vs "Democrats" propaganda war. I'm applogize if my comments seemed childish or offensive.

[Lower55]

Our Gov hasn't disarmed me one bit.

You're paranoid.

FYI I don't drink or do drugs.

If there is somewhere I can't go with my gun, I don't go.

Simple as that.

The Gov. can protect the country. I will protect my family. I can't do that flying around in any plane, anywhere.

So, If you will leave your family to their own devices while you fly around trying to mpress someone, or quench some thirst for recreation, I'll be near my family, with my gun.

[Wondervixen]

>>Clinton would have lied just for the hell of it. I don't see this in Bush.

Paraphrasing the words of country comedian Jerry Clower, "Bill Clinton would climb a tree to tell you a lie when he could just as well stand on the ground and 'fess up"

[FreeTally]

So you have heard the flight recorder too? Link me, please, if you will.

[hoosierham]

Some people think: "lead, follow, or get out of the way" is a wonderful saying; I've got one for them: "pound salt".

[Paul Atreides]

They are part of the Vast Kneepad Conspiracy. They worship the ground on which the Clintons walk. They are like rabid dogs, foaming at the mouth, looking for something in which to crucify Bush and Cheney.

[bonesmccoy]

no. They need colonoscopy...that's why they are so fascinated and fixated on the President health today.

[Ingtar]

As to the items found up to 8 miles away: this sounds more like what would be found if the passengers opened a door to distract the hijackers. Likely, whatever brave person performed that act would have been sucked out.

[operation clinton cleanup]

There were people on the plane on the cellphones.

Yeah, was it just good timing that it was shot down just as the heroes stormed the cockpit?

[Paul Atreides]

All of this makes me think of the media, and some historians, lamenting the fact that Bubba didn't have a 9-11 in order to have his precious "legacy."

[mhking]

I've got one for them: "pound salt".

I like it...