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Rebel Re-enactor with a Cause
The Free-Lance Star/"Aw Shucks!" | 6-30-02 | Laura Moyer

Posted on 07/01/2002 2:49:16 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861

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To: GOPcapitalist
Re: #'s 9 & 14.

1 - Walt
2 - Walt
3 - Walt
4 - Walt
5 - Walt
6 - Walt
7 - Walt
8 - Walt
9 - Walt
10 - Walt
11 - Walt
12 - Walt
13 - Walt
14 - Walt
Bonus - Walt

21 posted on 07/01/2002 5:55:13 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: GOPcapitalist; TexConfederate1861
Great Post! As for GOPC's quiz, I'm gonna go with "False" for every question : )
22 posted on 07/01/2002 6:28:07 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
ROTFLOL! I have no doubt he'd agree with all of them! I'll post the answers in a minute or two.
23 posted on 07/01/2002 6:29:42 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist; stainlessbanner; 4ConservativeJustices; shuckmaster; Twodees
Answers to the 'Who Said It: Walt or Karl Marx?' Quiz

Answer #'s correspond to the quotations in post 9. Bonus corresponds to the quotation in post 14. Each quotation is identified by it's actual pro-yankee author and the source where it came from.

ANSWERS TO QUIZ:
1. Walt, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/703308/posts?page=2#2
2. Karl Marx, Address of the International Working Men's Association to President Johnson, 1865
3. Karl Marx, On the North American Civil War, October 20, 1861
4. Walt, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/700651/posts?page=88#88
5. Karl Marx, On the North American Civil War, October 20, 1861
6. Walt, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/688238/posts?page=62#62
7. Walt, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/688238/posts?page=42#42
8. Karl Marx, On the North American Civil War, October 20, 1861
9. Walt, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/688238/posts?page=42#42
10. Walt, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/662922/posts?page=85#85
11. Karl Marx, On the North American Civil War, October 20, 1861
12. Karl Marx, On the North American Civil War, October 20, 1861
13. Karl Marx, letter to Abraham Lincoln congratulating him on reelection as President of the United States, January 28, 1865
14. Walt, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/664750/posts?page=51#51

BONUS QUESTION:
Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf Volume 2, 1926

In other words Walt, who would no doubt agree with practically every one of those quotes that was not his own, echoes the pro-yankee sentiments expressed by two of the most notorious totalitarian nutcases in all of history.

24 posted on 07/01/2002 6:38:48 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
And for the record, here is the Lincoln Administration's formal reply to Karl Marx's letter congratulating Lincoln on reelection as president in 1864.

Charles Francis Adams, United States Ambassador to Britain, to Karl Marx of the International Workingmen's Association (my emphasis added in bold)

Legation of the United States
London, 28th January, 1865

Sir:

I am directed to inform you that the address of the Central Council of your Association, which was duly transmitted through this Legation to the President of the United States, has been received by him.

So far as the sentiments expressed by it are personal, they are accepted by him with a sincere and anxious desire that he may be able to prove himself not unworthy of the confidence which has been recently extended to him by his fellow citizens and by so many of the friends of humanity and progress throughout the world.

The Government of the United States has a clear consciousness that its policy neither is nor could be reactionary, but at the same time it adheres to the course which it adopted at the beginning, of abstaining everywhere from propagandism and unlawful intervention. It strives to do equal and exact justice to all states and to all men and it relies upon the beneficial results of that effort for support at home and for respect and good will throughout the world.

Nations do not exist for themselves alone, but to promote the welfare and happiness of mankind by benevolent intercourse and example. It is in this relation that the United States regard their cause in the present conflict with slavery, maintaining insurgence as the cause of human nature, and they derive new encouragements to persevere from the testimony of the workingmen of Europe that the national attitude is favored with their enlightened approval and earnest sympathies.

I have the honor to be, sir, your obedient servant,

Charles Francis Adams

25 posted on 07/01/2002 6:46:37 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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bump
26 posted on 07/01/2002 6:48:52 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: GOPcapitalist; TexConfederate1861
"Who Said It: Walt or Karl Marx?"

ROTFL!! GOP, you sir have made my night. Tex, great article posted as usual and thanks for posting the truth

27 posted on 07/01/2002 7:08:28 PM PDT by billbears
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To: billbears
Glad to be of service. Be sure to check out the bonus in post 14 and the answers in post 24.

Marx isn't the only totalitarian nutcase to espouse Walt's position.

28 posted on 07/01/2002 7:18:44 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
oops. Sorry. Post 14=Post 18 for bonus
29 posted on 07/01/2002 7:20:34 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
LMAO !.. I allways get those two mixed up myself! (Walt and Karl Marx)
30 posted on 07/01/2002 7:22:57 PM PDT by arly
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To: Ligeia
Thanks...they are good...my HTML isn't though...:)
31 posted on 07/01/2002 7:30:51 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: GOPcapitalist
Very good work. If you'll remember the time this past winter when the subject of Charles Sumner's well deserved caning at the hands of Bully Brooks, two of the brainiacs used Rev. Theodore Parker's hassayampa version of how Brooks "crept up on Sumner while his arms were pinioned in his chair(how on earth did that happen?) and beat him nearly to death with a lead loaded club". Neither seemed aware that they were simply repeating the fictional account provided by a fraud who wasn't even in the country when Sumner was thrashed with a hollow, gutta percha walking stick by a war veteran half his size.


32 posted on 07/01/2002 7:44:11 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: GOPcapitalist
Awesome post!

I can't believe I missed that many :o(

33 posted on 07/01/2002 8:48:04 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I can't believe I missed that many

I missed as many as you did! LOL!

34 posted on 07/01/2002 9:19:03 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: PistolPaknMama
I missed as many as you did! LOL!

I thought GOPcapitalist was giving us a "gimme".

35 posted on 07/01/2002 9:31:48 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: GOPcapitalist
ADDRESS OF THE INTERNATIONAL WORKING MEN'S ASSOCIATION TO U.S. PRESIDENT LINCOLN
Presented to U.S. Ambassador Charles Francis Adams January 28, 1865 [1]

Sir:

We congratulate the American people upon your re-election by a large majority. If resistance to the Slave Power was the reserved watchword of your first election, the triumphant war cry of your re-election is Death to Slavery.

From the commencement of the titanic American strife the workingmen of Europe felt instinctively that the star-spangled banner carried the destiny of their class. The contest for the territories which opened the dire epopee, was it not to decide whether the virgin soil of immense tracts should be wedded to the labor or the emigrant or prostituted by the tramp of the slave driver?

When an oligarchy of 300,000 slaveholders dared to inscribe, for the first time in the annals of the world, "slavery" on the banner of Armed Revolt, when on the very spots where hardly a century ago the idea of one great Democratic Republic had first sprung up, whence the first Declaration of the Rights of Man was issued, and the first impulse given to the European revolution of the eighteenth century; when on those very spots counterrevolution, with systematic thoroughness, gloried in rescinding "the ideas entertained at the time of the formation of the old constitution", and maintained slavery to be "a beneficent institution", indeed, the old solution of the great problem of "the relation of capital to labor", and cynically proclaimed property in man "the cornerstone of the new edifice" -- then the working classes of Europe understood at once, even before the fanatic partisanship of the upper classes for the Confederate gentry had given its dismal warning, that the slaveholders' rebellion was to sound the tocsin for a general holy crusade of property against labor, and that for the men of labor, with their hopes for the future, even their past conquests were at stake in that tremendous conflict on the other side of the Atlantic. Everywhere they bore therefore patiently the hardships imposed upon them by the cotton crisis, opposed enthusiastically the proslavery intervention of their betters -- and, from most parts of Europe, contributed their quota of blood to the good cause.

While the workingmen, the true political powers of the North, allowed slavery to defile their own republic, while before the Negro, mastered and sold without his concurrence, they boasted it the highest prerogative of the white-skinned laborer to sell himself and choose his own master, they were unable to attain the true freedom of labor, or to support their European brethren in their struggle for emancipation; but this barrier to progress has been swept off by the red sea of civil war.

The workingmen of Europe feel sure that, as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Antislavery War will do for the working classes. They consider it an earnest of the epoch to come that it fell to the lot of Abraham Lincoln, the single-minded son of the working class, to lead his country through the matchless struggle for the rescue of an enchained race and the reconstruction of a social world. [2]

Signed on behalf of the International Workingmen's Association, the Central Council:

Longmaid, Worley, Whitlock, Fox, Blackmore, Hartwell, Pidgeon, Lucraft, Weston, Dell, Nieass, Shaw, Lake, Buckley, Osbourne, Howell, Carter, Wheeler, Stainsby, Morgan, Grossmith, Dick, Denoual, Jourdain, Morrissot, Leroux, Bordage, Bocquet, Talandier, Dupont, L.Wolff, Aldovrandi, Lama, Solustri, Nusperli, Eccarius, Wolff, Lessner, Pfander, Lochner, Kaub, Bolleter, Rybczinski, Hansen, Schantzenbach, Smales, Cornelius, Petersen, Otto, Bagnagatti, Setacci;

George Odger, President of the Council; P.V. Lubez, Corresponding Secretary for France; Karl Marx, Corresponding Secretary for Germany; G.P. Fontana, Corresponding Secretary for Italy; J.E. Holtorp, Corresponding Secretary for Poland; H.F. Jung, Corresponding Secretary for Switzerland; William R. Cremer, Honorary General Secretary.

18 Greek Street, Soho.

Marx actually lays it out pretty well. The war was brought on by the slave power for the most heinous and immoral of reasons.

Walt

36 posted on 07/02/2002 3:22:54 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: goodieD
bump for the truth!

The record amply indicates that no more than a handful of blacks fought for the CSA.

Walt

37 posted on 07/02/2002 3:30:57 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa; shuckmaster; 4ConservativeJustices; Twodees; billbears; stainlessbanner; ...
"Marx actually lays it out pretty well. The war was brought on by the slave power for the most heinous and immoral of reasons." - Walt, 4/1/02

Bump for dixie. There you have it, everybody! After being accurately compared along side Marx in his pro-yankee arguments, there's Walt in his own words endorsing Karl Marx!!!

Oh, and thanks, Walt, for confirming what we've suspected all along. And to the other south-bashers out there, how's it feel to be the direct political heirs of Karl Marx?

38 posted on 07/02/2002 3:32:19 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Gee, Marx was against slavery. The nerve of him.
39 posted on 07/02/2002 3:34:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: GOPcapitalist
oops. 4/1/02=4/2/02
40 posted on 07/02/2002 3:35:34 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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