Posted on 07/03/2002 6:09:49 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
On Sunday, one of the "experts" in the endless parade of experts on cable news stated the obvious: "I am unaware of any special significance of the date Sept. 11." His implication was that there is no reason to anticipate a terror attack on July 4 because bin Laden didn't use date significance as a basis for selecting 9-11. Although he was technically accurate, he was pretty far from correct.
Bin Laden is trying to raise the entire Muslim world to Jihad. Creating the mystique of the Chosen is central to his goal, and symbolism is the greatest weapon in his arsenal (thus far). Consider what he said (twice) in his post-Sept. 11 video: "… after 80 years, the sword has come to America …" He was clearly referring to the resolution passed by the U.S. Congress endorsing the partition of Palestine (creation of a Zionist homeland) on Sept. 11, 1922.
Experts on American news networks continually warn us that al-Qaida may be encoding secret messages to sleeper cells in their videos and communiqués, but bin Laden speaks openly, relying on us not knowing even our own history, let alone Islamic history. Which brings us to July 4. We, in our narcissism, assume that July 4 is all about us. But to Muslims it is a day of ultimate triumph.
On July 4, 1197, Saladin (Salah al-Din) completely annihilated the 20,000-man Crusader army at the battle of the Horns of Hattin, driving the "Christians" from the Holy Land until the 20th century. And we can be sure it is not lost on bin Laden that Saladin won this battle in spite of the fact that the Crusaders carried with them the "True Cross" (the True Cross was a relic designated by Constantine's mother during the initial phase of the paganization of Christianity).
Consequently, July 4 is a very likely candidate for a terrorist strike, albeit only if the Islamists feel they have the means to achieve a final victory over the U.S.
The first question is, do they? Recently, al-Qaida spokesman Abu Ghaith promised to kill 4,000,000 of us, referring to America as "Hubal." Hubal was the last and the largest of the 364 pagan gods in the Kaaba to be toppled by Muhammad (al-ilah, the predecessor to Allah, was left standing). The image of Hubal was so large that Ali (Muhammad's son and the first Imam) had to stand on the Prophet's shoulders to push it over.
The second question is, clearly, is bin Laden ready to stand on the Prophet's shoulders now? That really should be a role of the 12th Imam (Al Mahdi – the long-awaited Muslim chosen one who will convert the whole world by the sword). Maybe bin Laden has been hanging around a guy in really old clothes for a reason: Mullah Omar wears the Cloak of Muhammad (which he stole from a museum in Kandahar). We all know neither clothes nor symbols make the man, but in an eschatologically-based war, image and deeds together can be larger than life. Remember, most of Europe capitulated before Tiger tanks bearing swastikas and the mere idea of blitzkrieg.
It is reported that Bin Laden writes poetry in the style of Saladin. For bin Laden, defeating the Crusader army and knocking over Hubal on July 4 would be the stuff of which epic poems are made.
Mark Robinson is a scientist and author.
OK - I'm wearing my tinfoil hat! But, on the night of September 11 I noticed that there was a crescent moon with a star next to it (venus?) - very, very bright. That is the symbol of the United Arab Emirates, if I'm not mistaken. I believe they perpetrated their act of terrorism under their symbol.
That is absolutely true. Dec. 25 was the date for the traditional celebration of the Sun God, in the pagan world. Whether you called him Ra or Apollo, ir didn't matter. Dec 25 was your day to give thanks. The Christians appealed to Constantine to have a date on their own, and Constantine said: "You can use Dec 25. Take it or leave it." So the early Christians decided that if they gave presents to each other (symbolizing the wise men), they would be different from all those other people also celebrating on Dec. 25.
What's your lat/long? I can research that.
They become historic after some deed randomly pans out on that date. The folklore is created ex post facto.
It seems to me that those who try to mimic history rarely make it.
The FBI now theorizes that the attacks of 9/11 were hastily moved up to that date when Moussouai was arrested. They beleive the mission was moved up in case details of it were obtained through interrogation.
Its a safe prediction that Fidel Castro will die on Cuba's greatest holiday.
I'm interested as to what you consider pagan symbols in the Christian recognition of Easter?
"Al Mahdi – the long-awaited Muslim chosen one who will convert the whole world by the sword."I don't suppose it ever occurred to these Satanists to try to "convert the whole world by the" TRUTH...and with the TRUTH...and to the TRUTH.
But then again, perhaps it did. TRUTH would mean the end of Islam.
Ummmmm....no.
They perpetrated the attack in good weather. 9/11 had CAVU (clear air, visibility unlimited) from Boston to Washington, DC. You can get a fairly reliable weather forecast 3 days out and you can be sure they didn't get a final "go" till 3 days beforehand.
Had 9/11 been cloudy you can bet your bottom dollar we'd likely be talking about the "9/18" attacks.
Those attacks were heavily dependent on no low clouds. Thus, a physical impossibility for them to be scheduled based on some date in ancient history or some silly astronomical feature.
One could actually argue that the Easter date calculation itself is a hold over from paganism. The official definition (used to this day is): (Gregorian Easter)
1) The media calls ANY military vehicle that isn't obviouly a jeep a "tank"......including APCs, AFVs, LAVs, etc.
2) The media calling any naval vessel..including frigates, cruisers, and destroyers, a "Battleship" (currently no battleships in active service anywhere in the world.)
3) The WORST one is the media confusing "casualties" with "killed" (this one is so bad I suspect over 50% of FR readers probably think casualty = killed); casualities refer to killed, WOUNDED (doesn't have to be mortal or even that badly wounded), and missing.
At my location, the moon wasn't up on the night of September 11.
Still, a moot point, as I've stated, because clear weather was absolutely critical; even with GPS, someone with a radio beacon at the target, etc., it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for them to hit either target with a low cloud deck, IMHO.
A reasonable assertion...however, you tend to view this from modern times, which have more rigorous dates and deadlines, commincations and modern transportation. Even the Romans would not have expected so efficient a census-taking as you would suggest in March. Some scholars believe the family remained in Bethlehem after the birth for several months, even to a couple of years.
Can't deny that there are pagan tones to religious holidays. One of the holidays least associated with paganism is the Feast of All Saints...Halloween.
If there's no one left to record history, did it really happen?
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