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6:00 Samantha Runnion Press Conference... Live thread.

Posted on 07/19/2002 6:32:07 PM PDT by Partisan Hack

The Sherriff just said that he is 100% certain that Alejandro Avila is the man that kidnapped, raped, and murdered Samantha.


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To: Vidalia
A Cigar cutter would work. Hooah
61 posted on 07/19/2002 7:16:28 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: BellStar
My heart breaks for YOU, also...
as a mother of three (and grandmother of eight), I can't imagine the pain of losing a child - however it happens. Obviously, the pain lingers on and on....I'm so sorry for the loss of your son.
Sincerely, Sandy
62 posted on 07/19/2002 7:18:10 PM PDT by SandyEgo
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To: jackbill
I agree with you that Smanatha's little friend deserves the bulk of the credit. Not only did she give an accurate description of the baby raper but she also pegged his car and his accent.

I'd be comfortable with that kid watching my back anytime.

63 posted on 07/19/2002 7:19:12 PM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: altura
I think it's because the main witnesses are children, who are too traumatized to make good witnesses.

Defense trial tactics are absolutely brutal to these kids. Few parents desire to have their children attacked and traumatized on the witness stand in the fashion that has become the norm in child sex abuse trials.

Kids older than 12 are typically subjected to particularly savage cross-examinations. The goal is to rattle the kid so badly that he or she appears confused and unsure. That's all a good defense attorney needs to cobble together enough reasonable doubt to get an acquittal.

That is why so many of these cases never make it to trial or are dealt out at reduced sentences.

In this case, Samantha Runnion is dead and cannot be further brutalized. The miscreant has few places remaining to hide.

64 posted on 07/19/2002 7:19:32 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: TomGuy
How about public castration?
65 posted on 07/19/2002 7:19:55 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: sweetliberty
I don't think this is a time to bring up the abortion issue. That is totally another subject and has nothing to do with raping children.
66 posted on 07/19/2002 7:20:02 PM PDT by I-couldnt-make-this-stuff-up!
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To: Skip Ripley
I hope a good portion of the reward money goes to little Sara Ahn. Maybe enough to send her to law school someday, so she can be a California judge, putting these monsters away.
67 posted on 07/19/2002 7:22:30 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: I-couldnt-make-this-stuff-up!
I have been thinking the same thing all day.
Especially after a few Freepers on another thread started heaping blame on this little girls father because he lives 3000 miles away.

Why are we as parents being taught that we "deserve" this to be done to our children?

Don't we have the "right" to just a bit of peace of mind?

I mean, I'm actually considering buying one of those locator bracelets for my son.

I feel like we and our children are being imprisoned while the loonies are free.

68 posted on 07/19/2002 7:22:43 PM PDT by katnip
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To: Vidalia
OK. Fine. As long as it's available on national TV, AND all convicted pedophiles are required to watch.
69 posted on 07/19/2002 7:22:53 PM PDT by HarryArmpitch
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To: altura
Just go to the website and check out your own community.

Do you have a link for us? Or do you know what agency handles that database? I'd love to have a look at my community.

70 posted on 07/19/2002 7:24:47 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: roob
Does Illinois have a database online for sex offenders? That's the other thing that's got to change, all sex offenders should be on a searchable database which includes every state with photos, details of crimes and updates on them. Most states seem to make it almost impossible to get information.
71 posted on 07/19/2002 7:25:10 PM PDT by I-couldnt-make-this-stuff-up!
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To: Partisan Hack
I'd assumed something like that when they said her body had been posed. As a mother, I can't imagine the hell her mother is going through with these graphic details. These images will haunt her the rest of her life.
72 posted on 07/19/2002 7:25:12 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Partisan Hack
Did the police say that the other little girl who was there and saw him and gave a postive ID on this guy as the perp?
73 posted on 07/19/2002 7:25:17 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Palladin
The castration MUST take place sans anesthetics. Should be a looooooong drawn-out affair. Possibly a week?
74 posted on 07/19/2002 7:25:43 PM PDT by HarryArmpitch
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To: altura
One of the men I work with, his daughter was sexually assaulted last year in their home by a repeat sexual offender. He and his wife were always extremely careful to make sure all the doors were locked, tightly. But their oldest two boys would sneak out at night and play in the backyard, and then sneak back in after they were told to go to bed. They thought they always relocked the basement door. One night they forgot, and the sexual pervert just happened to be in their neighborhood, trying to see if there were any unlocked doors at the houses. He got into their basement right after midnight, went into their nine year old daughter's bedroom and sexually assaulted her. She finally screamed, the pervert ran, but through very fortunate circumstances was found cowering at his grandmother's home a short time later. I can't remember how many charges this guy had against him, but it was more than one. And he was released from prison for "good behavior" after each crime. Not for this one though, he is going away for a very long time.

When is society going to learn, that it is almost never that those perverts don't reoffend and remolest???

75 posted on 07/19/2002 7:26:57 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: swheats
Some have commented on how this case is being handled in comparison to the Smart abduction. The following is a note I just received via e-mail.

Church or no church I believe ANY parent would have dialed 911 before anything not run around the neighborhood and calling bishops and all. I realize mormons are deeply into all this but it's their child. Call them after but before? Also there's the matter of all the "people" in the home before the police arrives and I cannot believe that one of those people didn't say.. Wait.. we shouldn't be here now.

Then there's the matter of a kidnapper knowing exactly where the childs bedroom is (I know 14 is not a child but it is to me) having to pass the parents bedroom not once but twice.. allowing her to put her sneakers/shoes on. Would you waste that precious time? And then there's the matter of the 9 year old waiting two hours before notifying the parents. Tell me did she really look at the clock? I doubt it. Apparently she was going to the parents but saw the kidnapper in the house. Where did she see the kidnapper for the second time? Why did he linger in the house with his victim?

We have not heard of anything being taken from the home as in a burglary.. where are the fingerprints? We dot even know if there are any. How did the perp enter the home? If the doors were locked he either had a key or the door was unlocked. I find an unlocked door hard to believe. What was the exit route?

Now as for the child, the 9 year old seeing the perp. She can see he's wearing a "polo" shirt, that he was wearing a jacket, she can see hair on his hands, a hat all this while pretending to be asleep. And but no composite? Why wasn't that done? I have also read that she was in fact questioned by the authorities three times and each time in the presence of her mother.

Any and all information that the public has been fed was contradicted after the fact. Mr Smart himself can not answer a straight question because he doesnt want to jeopardize the case but yet.. he goes on a Press Conf. and tells us about a letter that was recieved. A letter the police were, at the time, unaware of. A letter that Uncle Tom FAXED to the police department and today we hear about an E-mail he "accidently" deleted. Again, the police knew nothing.

Now you can laugh about the Enquirer being a rag magazine but they have no fear of anything especially law suits and have, believe it or not, award winning journalists working for them. This "gay" porn found on the computers.. this journal of supposed sexual perversion would destroy them in the Mormon community if proven to be true and when Mr Smart was questioned on it his answer was not something a "normal" people would say, in my opinion anyway. He said something like.. it's irrelevant or nothing to be concerned with where someone else would say that's absurd or yeah so what I had porn on my computer.

It seems to me that this whole ordeal is either a total sham for money or notoriety or he knows exactly where his daughter is and always has but it's gone beyond his control and now has to play his own game.

In my own opinion and I stress this as I have no solid proof to back it up but I think this child is alive and now with the 5th wife. I think Smart got himself into severe financial trouble or he was being blackmailed because of his sexual preferences.

These are just a few thoughts of mine so tear it apart if you will but these are my opinions and thanks for asking.

76 posted on 07/19/2002 7:27:40 PM PDT by Partisan Hack
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To: saradippity
I don't suppose it ever occurred to any of them that that is what they get paid to do and if they had really been on their toes a report of an abducted child that they received within 4 minutes of the abduction should have led to an apprehension of the suspect before he raped and killed that little girl.

Right, I am sure if you were there you would have solved the case in three minutes before the witnessing girl had even been interviewed and a sketch of the perp made. I'm sure he was the only guy who fit the description in the whole freaking country and you could have just pulled his home address right out of a hat like a rabbit without actually having to investigate. Ah! If only the police were as gifted and experienced in crime solving as you! Show us the link to the post where you solved the case within 4 minutes of the abduction- you had as much info as the cops did within 4 minutes, after all, and you should have had the case solved. Save your criticism for the panel of other 'brilliant' American citizen-detectives who will let the guy off because some lawyer can convince them that his "bloody glove" didn't fit, and save it for the bleeding hearts who will whine and complain about tough sentencing, the death penalty, the unnatractive color of the prison uniforms, police brutality or whatever.

77 posted on 07/19/2002 7:27:50 PM PDT by piasa
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To: saradippity; Shaka
I had the same reaction to the "press conference." I was expecting to hear how they got confirmation that this was their guy. Instead they were high-fiving as America watched with a broken heart because Samantha is dead. I noticed that Fox just broke away.
78 posted on 07/19/2002 7:28:09 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: sweetliberty
We began having tolerance for rape and child murder in this country when rape was used as the original excuse to legitimize the murder of unborn children

This is a poignant and very true statement. Don't expect the average poster to agree with you or to see the connection, however. The average poster is much too much into himself and his own greedy self-obsessions to face this ugly truth.

Children became disposable commodities in our culture beginning with Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade and the Samantha Runnion kidnap-rape-murder are related in a fundamental, powerful sense.

We now return to the regularly scheduled programming of denial and moral compartmentalization.

79 posted on 07/19/2002 7:28:35 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: HarryArmpitch
And they must use a rusty knife to perform the castration.
80 posted on 07/19/2002 7:28:50 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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