[Grampa Dave]

Actually, the economy of Oregon started to crumple two years ago last Oct/Nov.. That kept Kalis from going to Oregon and started a reversal of people moving from Oregon to Kali.

In our annual fall trek to the Oregon country in Oct 2000, we ran into a lot of Kali/Oregonians returning to Kali or just moving to Kali for the jobs that Oregon didn't have.

A lot of jobs and in particuliar the heavy construction jobs companies were the first to feel the upcoming economic eco recession. This was due to the anti business, anti capitalism and watermelon behavior of the Governor and others in power in Oregon.

Then our power crisis in Kali drove up their electrical rates, and this wiped out a lot smaller companies and jobs.
The flow back into Kali started in ernest in the early part of 2001. After 9/11, their economy tanked, and the envirals agenda/desire of getting rid of a lot of people in Oregon came true.

[Grampa Dave]

Looks like Oregon Live has awakened and is now posting stories and articles about the wildfires in Oregon. Here is the latest report by fire:

The Associated Press

Several major wildfires were burning on about 200,000 acres in Oregon on Tuesday. About 8,660 firefighters are working in the state.


WINTER-TOOLBOX FIRES

Started: in Lake County 07/12/02 and merged Saturday.

Size: 97,392 acres

Containment: 40 percent

Evacuations: Voluntary evacuations of 65 homes.

Damage: No.

On scene: 2100 firefighters

Cause: Lightning.


EYERLY FIRE

Started: 15 miles NE of Camp Sherman, 07/09/02.

Size: 24,637 acres.

Containment: 85 percent.

Evacuations: 280 homes asked to voluntarily evacuate last week.

Damage: 18 houses destroyed.

On scene: 1,029 firefighters

Cause: Lightning.


MALHEUR COMPLEX

Started: 8-25 miles from Prairie City, 07/12/02.

Size: 9,783 acres.

Containment: 30 percent.

Evacuations: None; 50 residences are threatened, and 10 commercial properties, and 184 outbuildings.

Damage: None.

On scene: 893 firefighters

Cause: Lightning


TILLER COMPLEX

Started: Outside Tiller, east of Canyonville off Interstate 5, 07/12/02.

Size: 5,500 acres.

Containment: 14 percent

Evacuations: None at this damage.

Damage: No listed damage

On scene: 897 firefighters

Cause: Lightning.


FLAGTAIL FIRE

Started: 13 miles west of Seneca, 07/15/02

Size: 8,100 acres.

Containment: 85 percent

Evacuations: None

Damage: Part of Bear Valley Work Center destroyed, one home destroyed, one outbuilding destroyed.

On scene: 623 firefighters.

Cause: Lightning.



NORTH UMPQUA COMPLEX

Started: 25 miles east of Glide, 07/12/02.

Size: 883 acres.

Containment:25 percent.

Evacuations: 20 residences threatened

Damage: one commercial property and ten outbuildings.

On Scene: 414 firefighters

Cause: Lightning.


MONUMENT FIRE

Started: 9 miles southwest of Unity, 07/12/02

Size: 24,700 acres

Containment: 40 percent.

Evacuations: 75 residences threatened, plus five commercial buildings and ten outbuildings.

Damage: Unknown.

On Scene: 811 firefighters, military battalion from Topeka, Kansas in place.

Cause: Lightning.


GRIZZLY FIRE

Started: 15 miles west of Lakeview.

Size: 6,050 acres.

Containment: 95 percent.

Evacuations: RV Park threatened. Cottonwood Meadows Lake campground and group camp area is closed.

Damage: Unknown.

On scene: 316 firefighters.

Cause: Lightning.


747 FIRE

Started: Northeast of Paulina in Black Canyon Wilderness, 07/13/22.

Size: 12,398 acres

Containment: 45 percent.

Evacuations: None.

Damage: Road closures.

On scene: 467 firefighters.

Cause: Lightning.


BISCUIT COMPLEX

Started: 17 miles southwest of Cave Junction, 07/13/02. requesting a Type One team

Size: 7,040 acres

Containment: zero percent.

Evacuations: None.

Damage: Unknown, but a wildnerness area is threatened.

On scene: 663 firefighters.

Cause: Lightning.



SHEEP ROCK FIRE

Started: 7/20/02, two miles northeast of Riverside, Ore.

Size: 884 acres

Containment: 90 percent

Evacuations: none

Damage: none

On Scene: 13 firefighters

Cause: lightning


LAVA FIRE:

Started: 7/13/02, 15 miles north/northwest of Christmas Valley,Ore.

Size: 400 acres

Containment: zero percent

Evacuations: Unknown, possible structures national forest land

Demage: Unknown

On scene: zero personnel

Cause: lightning




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Source: The Northwest Interagency Coordination Center

[Joe Hadenuf]

That may be true to an extent, however, you know as well as I that there are probably 1000 times more envirals in Cal than Oregon. I personally know of at least 10 people that have moved to Oregon from Cal in the past 7 years or so. Only one returned to take over a family business due to a death. All of these folks that moved there were strong conservatives to the core. We hated to see them go.

What area of Oregon do you vacation in Dave?