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That may be true to an extent, however, you know as well as I that there are probably 1000 times more envirals in Cal than Oregon. I personally know of at least 10 people that have moved to Oregon from Cal in the past 7 years or so. Only one returned to take over a family business due to a death. All of these folks that moved there were strong conservatives to the core. We hated to see them go.

What area of Oregon do you vacation in Dave?

Actually some of the most rabid envirals I have ever met and seen are native Oregonians. Next are our enviral trash that moved to Oregon in the last decade or so. They are very bad.

We have them here in Kali too.

We love the SW Oregon coast from Brookings to Bandon. We try to get there or to the upper Rogue River area every fall after labor day. I've seen a lot of beautiful coasts, including our great coasts here in California.

However, the coastline from Brookings to Port Orford, Oregon is the most incredible that I have seen.

If I go up by myself to fly fish in the summer time, I will stay in the Deschutes River Area. It is a little too isolated and barren for my wife. She likes the Sisters area if it doesn't burn up this year. I had planned a one week trip to the Deschutes area early next month and have my wife fly up on Thursday night or Friday morning to the Redmond/Sisters area. Then we would drive back together or she would have flown back. Then I could fly fish down 97, then fish to I5 and down.