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To: Dead Dog
manipulating the system

The police break your door down some night, storm your bedroom shooting you and your wife, killing her and paralyzing you. They find a couple of marijuana cigarettes in your sock drawer.

It turns out that they had no warrant or even a hint of probable cause because they had the wrong address.

Your attorney files a motion to throw out the evidence based on the the Fourth Amendment.

There's not the slightest doubt in your attorney's mind that you were guilty of possessing marijuana illegally.

Is he manipulating the system?

77 posted on 07/25/2002 3:31:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
...marijuana cigarettes...

LOL - who are you, Ned Flanders?

89 posted on 07/25/2002 3:44:51 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Dog Gone
Great hypothetical. I'd like to hear a response from those who believe that the lawyer is wrongly "manipulating the system."
109 posted on 07/25/2002 4:08:55 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Dog Gone
Is he manipulating the system?

Of course not, he is defending his client by the letter of the law. He is attacking the basis of argument, not making baseless accusations about the personal lives of the witness.

Now, had the coppers served a warrant, all of these things transpired, and the lawyer claimed space monkeys flew out of a circus elephant's behind and planted the pot plants for medical purposes. that would be a fabrication.

This isn't about lawyers insisting on due process, it's about going beyond the call of duty so they can score another W with no regards to the damage done to the judicial system.

I've seen a public defender claim his client had "Demons Inside", trying to get a minimum sentence for an attempted murderer. By the way, the defendant had stabbed my fiancé in the throat three times, attempted to solicit her murder from jail, and told prosecutors that he still wanted to kill her....on the day of his sentencing.

That's a little different then getting off on a gross violation of the 4th amendment. What was a game for this lawyer was determining whether or not my wife or I would have a fight to the death in the near future. This is serious, and it is real.

Some lawyers don't seem to appreciate the power they command, and some really don't have the integrity to handle it. It should be a noble profession.

136 posted on 07/25/2002 5:15:36 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dog Gone
No--he is not manipulatying the system. That evidence never happened because the police were there illegally.
151 posted on 07/25/2002 6:38:47 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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