AL QAIDA IN THE RANKS? Noncitizen (Naval) reservist suspected of ties to terrorist network

Navy Times | July 29, 2002 | Christopher Munsey & Patricia Kime

[aristeides]

Betty Jo tells us he's related to the Saudi Alamoudi, who was involved in some terrorism (attack on the Cole, if I remember correctly.)

[SkunkPunk]

Who knows how many more are out there indeed. How much damage could one muslim fighter pilot do if he decided to steel a fully loaded F-14? Could start a real war.

[Catspaw]

If that's the case, I'm going to get the willies.

These people ARE NOT our friends. They ain't even close. But they have friends in Washington--and some sitting in the House of Representatives.

Shudder.

[Travis McGee]

Forget the military: at this time any "American" who speaks Arabic is on the ultra high speed career fast track at the CIA and FBI.

The FBI and CIA are even recruiting at the same mosques which have served as terrorism engines. So any Muslim who can pretend to salute the American flag and lie as he takes his oath is practically guaranteed super rapid promotion, both for his language skills and general PC affimative action principles.

In ten or 15 years, we are going to be "shocked" (!!??) to discover that a high % of our Arab Muslim recruits to the FBI and CIA back in the 2000s are traitors and spies.

This country may be too naive to survive.

[aristeides]

Anybody know to what extent the Arabic classes at DLI in Monterey have been expanded?

[rdavis84]

"I still can't figure out how a non citizen can be in our military!!! Why???"

I was in the Artillery back in '65-'68 with some fellas that probably weren't citizens at the time. They were just as good as cannon fodder as we were. Or, as otherwise known, Targets.

None of us asked if they were citizens.

[knighthawk]

Thanks for the article!

[Betty Jo]

aristeides, I think I'm going to have a nervous breakdown!

Yes, this Alamoudi is related to the Cole attack-Bin Laden funder, Al-Amoudi.

I know because back then, I emailed him and asked him, and he said yes,and he was sorry he didn't see him more often.

It must be remembered that this would be American Alamoudi is not only a Clinton friend, but was at the BUSH WHITEHOUSE more than once!

I think we are in so deeply that we may not survive.

When you start adding up the bits and pieces,it is overwhelming.

I truly will not be surprised if people VERY high in our government are exposed as actual TRAITORS right now.

[Betty Jo]

Why are our laws allowing these non-citizens in to our military?

Isn't this Alamoudi the guy that gets to choose what Muslim Clerics get to minister to our troops?

This whole thing is a 75 % off cheap spy military novel!

Deport this Alamoudi now.

PS. he is a trained "BIOCHEMIST"!

[Travis McGee]

BUMP!

[Catspaw]

On this thread, L.N. Smithee and I are having a conversation about Cynthia McKinney & I posted this link--and guess who turns up on McKinney's donor list (from this thread)? 

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To: L.N. Smithee

Here are the McKinney files. The first link takes you to her donors. Prepare yourself to be shocked.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669149/posts

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And here he is--note the date of the donations, too.  It looks like someone was working on 9/11.  I haven't scanned the list to see if I recognize any more of the donors, but I'd bet they're in McKinney's list:

Alamoudi, Abdurahman
9/11/01 $2,000.00
Falls Church, VA 22041
American Muslim Foundation/Presiden -[Contribution]
Transaction itemized by: CYNTHIA MCKINNEY FOR CONGRESS
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Alamoudi, Abdurahman
9/11/01 $1,000.00
Falls Church, VA 22041
American Muslim Foundation/Presiden -[Contribution]
Transaction itemized by: CYNTHIA MCKINNEY FOR CONGRESS
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Alamoudi, Abdurahman
9/11/01 -$1,000.00
Falls Church, VA 22041
American Muslim Foundation/Presiden -[Contribution]
Transaction itemized by: CYNTHIA MCKINNEY FOR CONGRESS
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[bvw]

Here's a story I heard in West Trenton NJ today. One of the paki mechanics at the the garage I took my car to skipped the country last month. The FBI had come around and told the paki's in the area that they had six weeks to move along or face the music -- this 61 year old fellow, who supposedly was on the lam from Pakistan when he came here -- a broken partnership in a lumber busness, maybe a related murder or threats of murder -- went and signed up for as many credit cards as he could. He bought about $20,000 worth of stuff -- computers, cell phones, other stuff and then withour any notice fled back to Pakistan. He even had the audacity to take a $600 pay advance from the garage owner the day before he took off.

The garage guy claims that over 100 pakis in the apartments nearby have up and dissappeared since, and left the apartment owner on the hock for what leases and rents due there were.

He says he informed the local police and the FBI, who have a local office down the block or so.

[rdavis84]

"I truly will not be surprised if people VERY high in our government are exposed as actual TRAITORS right now."

Yes, but it's all 'Rationalized' in their minds, therefore to the only ones who matter, it's NOT Treason.

It's more like doing the very best they can to bring about Peace in the Whole World. To take care of the masses and provide security for them under their magnificent umbrella of compassion.

And like they also have rationalized, you've got to break some eggs to make an Omelet (that would be those of us who resist).

But Treason? No. They're Citizens of the World, and our Shepherds, Born to Lead! The Rightful Masters of Mankind!

Just Ask Them. Start with Kissinger, then GHWBush, and then GWBush. They'll 'splain it to you. ;-)

[Chad Fairbanks]

It's interesting... in 1988, I went to boot camp (GLakes)with a guy from Iraq... he wasn't a citizen, either...

This article just reminded me of that... now I'm wondering whether we have "sleepers" in our military... scary thought...

[Betty Jo]

I think some of my replys were taken off from the above links to McKinneys donors. As I remember, I posted little nastys about the relationship of Alamoudi to Bush.
This whole nightmare continually brings up the Bush family connections to the bad guys.It is totally impossible to keep up with all of it.Everyday there are new events.I have never hated every politician as much as I do now.

[Honorary Serb]

Whatever happened to those people who said that the whole idea of muslim fifth columnists in America was just a lie conconcted by "Serb propagandists working out of Belgrade", who were spreading "Serb nationalist disinformation"? </sarcasm off>.

[Betty Jo]

Are you familiar with the Congressmen who resigned from the Republican group that controlled the "Task Force On Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare" that authored a report written by BODANSKY that they toltally freaked out about?

It covered your concerns.

[Our man in washington]

I'm in the Naval Reserves, and about a fourth of my unit are non-citizens. I'm not going into any detail, but suffice it to say that it could be a very bad thing for the country if any traitors are in this particular unit.

After reading this article, I'm keeping my eyes open. They're my buddies, and I hate to be paranoid, but I'm sworn to defend the country against all enemies.

[Sabertooth]

Federal authorities in the Seattle area are holding a drilling Naval reservist, a non-U.S. citizen, suspected of having ties to Islamic radicals with known connections to al-Qaida.

Construction Mechanic 3rd Class Semi Osman, 32, was arrested May 17 at his home in Tacoma, Wash., on charges of illegally trying to become a U.S. citizen and possession of a handgun whose serial number was “obliterated or altered,” according to court documents....

The military services allow noncitizens to enlist. The active-duty Navy has 16,248 noncitizen members. Noncitizens are not allowed to hold certain ratings, including those that require security clearances. Statistics on how many noncitizens are in the Naval Reserve were not available.

This dummy should have waited.

In a July Fourth speech to troops in West Virginia, Bush announced that he had signed an executive order making it immediately possible for 15,000 soldiers to become citizens. All of those who qualify are already legal permanent residents.
LINK

President Bush was about to make him a citizen anyway...

Construction Mechanic 3rd Class Semi Osman could have been a much more effective terrorist had he bided his time.

Hey, if Osman was arrested on suspicion if Al Qaeda involvement on May 17th, shouldn't the President have known about it when he offered immediate citizenship to immigrant service members?

Oops.

Bush speeds citizenship for military

Immigrants Serving Active Duty in Military Will Be Immediately Eligible for Citizenship

[Askel5]

Hey, if Osman was arrested on suspicion if Al Qaeda involvement on May 17th, shouldn't the President have known about it when he offered immediate citizenship to immigrant service members?

You ask way too many questions.