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That Trillion-Dollar Ripoff-- Clinton's Utah Coal Deal
various websites | 7-29-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 07/29/2002 12:04:45 PM PDT by backhoe

In light of the attention focused on coal and coalminers over the weekend, let's review one of the more sordid episodes of the late & unlamented Clinton Conspiracy of Criminals...

Review the information in these links, and judge for yourself- was the public interest ripped off?

The Utah Coal Lockup: A trillion dollar Lippo payoff?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/lippo.htm

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1 posted on 07/29/2002 12:04:45 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Grampa Dave; madfly
I'm flagging you to see if any on your list would be interested in this old fraud and corruption.
2 posted on 07/29/2002 12:08:15 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
This is one that I have been interrested in since it happened. That coal was low-sulfur coal with a fairly high BTU rating, and would have been invaluable for use in the northeast. The next best source of similar coal is INDONESIA.
3 posted on 07/29/2002 12:12:02 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
That coal was low-sulfur coal with a fairly high BTU rating, and would have been invaluable for use in the northeast. The next best source of similar coal is INDONESIA.

Interesting point, but if this were truly relevant I would think that the U.S. would now be importing coal from Indonesia as a result of Clinton's actions. I don't think this is the case -- even high quality coal has a very low value per unit weight, so it rarely makes economic sense to transport it long distances. I believe most of the coal that is used by utilities in the Midwest comes from the Powder River Basin in northeastern Wyoming and southeastern Montana.

4 posted on 07/29/2002 12:17:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: backhoe; Fracas
Backhoe --

Thanks again for these excellent links! You are better than a search engine!

PKM
5 posted on 07/29/2002 12:17:50 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Miss Marple
Appreciate your comments- thanks for checking in.
6 posted on 07/29/2002 12:25:39 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Alberta's Child
I never did understand the deal was with Utah's coal. I thought we had 500 years of low sulfur, 8300 BTU coal from the Powder River Basin around Gillette. I understand that Utah's coal is 10500-11000 BTUs/pound, but its still in a remote location--probably $35/ton train ride to the NE.
7 posted on 07/29/2002 12:26:05 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: *Enviralists; *Energy_List
Index Bump
8 posted on 07/29/2002 1:09:44 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: backhoe
Of course the wimped out GOP won't say diddly about this while the democrats attack every stupid issue
9 posted on 07/29/2002 1:12:36 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Alberta's Child
Maybe the question to ask is where are China and Japan getting THEIR coal? Maybe we could compete shipping it from Utah verses shipping it from Indonesia and THAT is the market we lost our on.
10 posted on 07/29/2002 1:12:37 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: Alberta's Child
The main point was to take it off the market. It would not be available to the market by the time the price may have been practical due to diminishing supplies of the cleaner burning coal.

Anytime a portion of a non-renewable resource is made unavailable it increases the value of what remains. That is why there is a "oil depletion allowance" to deduct the increasing cost of retrieving an energy source. In the existing tax code, certain oil, gas, coal and uranium producers receive a huge subsidy through the percentage depletion allowance.

11 posted on 07/29/2002 2:20:00 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I never did understand the deal was with Utah's coal

I may have responded to the wrong person.

The main point was to take it off the market. It would not be available to the market by the time the price may have been practical due to diminishing supplies of the cleaner burning coal.

Anytime a portion of a non-renewable resource is made unavailable it increases the value of what remains. That is why there is a "oil depletion allowance" to deduct the increasing cost of retrieving an energy source. In the existing tax code, certain oil, gas, coal and uranium producers receive a huge subsidy through the percentage depletion allowance.

12 posted on 07/29/2002 2:24:34 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for the bump, the ping, and the kind words- they are appreciated!
13 posted on 07/29/2002 2:25:20 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: uncbob
Of course the wimped out GOP won't say diddly about this while the democrats attack every stupid issue

No argument from me- bearing in mind that I identify myself as conservative rather than Republican.

But that's the point in bringing this up periodically- so it will go across the web, and maybe make it to talk radio.

14 posted on 07/29/2002 2:53:09 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe; PhiKapMom; Miss Marple
This is an excellent and timely subject. I would think after last weekend, that coal miners might be in 'vogue', so this might well get some play - particularly on local talk shows in PA, WVa, etc.

Thanks for all the effort you put into this research and organization. Well done!

15 posted on 07/29/2002 3:09:27 PM PDT by Fracas
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To: Fracas
Midwest Coal fields are mostly shut down. Due to the Clean Air Act, it is cheaper for utilities to buy Wyoming Coal and ship it here by rail than to put scubbers on their plants and buy higher sulfur Indiana Coal.

Originally scrubbers were going to be required at some point, but the utilities somehow managed to get that portion dropped, so here we sit on tons of coal while we ship it in from the West. The same thing happened to the eastern coal...There aren't nearly as many mines working in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and other Appalachian states as there used to be.

The Clean Coal technology that is in the Energy Bill would help the mining industry, as well as giving us a source of energy that is relatively low in cost. Of course, Tom Daschle has that bill bottled up.

16 posted on 07/29/2002 3:23:37 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Fracas; PhiKapMom; Miss Marple
Appreciate the kind words... and my personal feelings about the Utah Coal Ripoff aside, I hope this mine ordeal that just played out will remind all Americans just how important regular working people are. My Mom's folks are from Ohio, and long ago we had some miners in her side of the family- it's hard, dirty, dangerous work-- but it's work that somebody has to do.

I would dearly love to collar some of these overpaid News Jackals you see on TV and get an honest day of manual labor out of them in the hot summer sun...

17 posted on 07/29/2002 3:30:20 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Ahban
Maybe the question to ask is where are China and Japan getting THEIR coal?

Manchuria ... cheapest coal on earth. It is mined by Chinese slave labor.

18 posted on 07/29/2002 3:31:32 PM PDT by bimbo
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To: MosesKnows
That is why there is a "oil depletion allowance" ...

I could stand corrected, but I believe the "oil depletion allowance" went the way of the Dodo bird as part of Carter's assault on "excess profits" in the '70s. Since the demise of the allowance, there hasn't been any "depletion" of oil reserves at all! Oil reserves have increased annually ever since, as the Oil companies were forced to earn money through the production of oil, rather than through a tax gimmick.

19 posted on 07/29/2002 3:40:00 PM PDT by bimbo
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To: All
BTW, FYI, & FWIW-- I understand Robert Reford was mainly responsible ( besides mr. bill ) for this disgrace:

White House Secretly Planned Utah 'land grab
Topic: White Water White House Secretly Planned Utah 'land grab The Washington Times 24 July 97 Paul Bedard Administration environmentalists, egged on by allies such as actor Robert Redford, operated

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20 posted on 07/29/2002 4:06:02 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
backhoe,I just wanted you to know, that I have something from 1996-a follow up- not a transcript,but a follow-up that I'd be willing to E-Mail you if you freep Mail me,I'll do that.It's not long at all.It's rather "Pithy" if I may say so myself.Thanks for those Links.(This was really another incident involving the media,with kept their eyes shut.)

The title is: "Quid Pro Coal" on THE AMERICAN INVESTIGATOR on NET (National Empowerment Television) Thurs. 12/19/96 From an interview by Jim Quinn on WRRK 97 FM in Pittsburgh, PA on Friday, Dec. 20th.

21 posted on 07/29/2002 4:14:36 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
You know, I was late getting on the 'net- a freebee Juno disc from my brother-in-law on Thanksgiving 1999 was my start- and I really did not realize how badly mis and un-informed I had been previously, despite subscribing to Human Events, the WSJ, the American Spectator ( and, God help me, the New Republic! ) and a number of other things.

The media "spin cycle" was so pervasive that you really had to draw away from it to avoid being deafened by all the noise.

I started keeping a scrapbook of clippings in 1996, and a pattern very quickly emerged:

1- don't talk about it at all...
2- if you must, mention it once, then haughtily declare "it's OLD NEWS!"
3- dump data- tons of data, dozens of confusing stories, hoards of witnesses and tellers-of-tales-- so the viewers get bored and restless and loose interest quickly.

The whole "Clinton Story" was very much a creation of the press and entertainment media, who still love and worship them.

22 posted on 07/29/2002 5:12:25 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Pagey; Fracas; PhiKapMom; Miss Marple; All; Free the USA
Here's a little more of "The Rest of the Story"--

"Quid Pro Coal" on THE AMERICAN INVESTIGATOR on NET(National Empowerment Television) Thurs. 12/19/96

From an interview by Jim Quinn on WRRK 97 FM in Pittsburgh, PA on Friday, Dec. 20th.

I will summarize the interview, but not do a full transcript, as follows:

This is a follow-up on the move by President Clinton to declare millions of acres of Utah wilderness as a federal preserve. The move was hailed by environmentalists initially, but now, some of them are feeling a bit used and deceived.Bill Clinton has put 25% of this country's so-called "compliance coal" or "enviro coal" (i.e., clean-burning, low sulfur) off limits with his Executive Order declaring this section of Utah to be a national park.

The remaining 75% of this type of coal happens to be in places that are hard to get to, difficult to mine, difficult to transport coal from, like the mountains of Wyoming, therefore the cost-effectiveness of mining the coal from these other areas is diminished.The interview stated that, under NAFTA, Mexico had to "sign on to" some of our clean air rules, so they are in the process of building new power plants which will require this type of "compliance coal".

Utah was to be an export center for all these new Mexican power plants. This would have meant thousands of coal mining and related jobs for Utah. The impact on the environment would have been minimal since this coal would require UNDERGROUND MINING, not strip mining. The coal would have been easily transportable through train lines to Long Beach, California, and there loaded onto barges and shipped to Mexico -- that is, until Bill Clinton declared with the sweep of a pen that their coal is untouchable.

Now, most likely, the Mexicans will be buying their "compliance coal" from Indonesia.The other shoe has finally dropped on COAL-GATE and it all started, as far back as 1977. That's when Mochtar Riady and his son, James, first arrived in this country and started buying up Bert Lance's assets, clearly making a play for the Carter administration. But their attention was later turned in another direction by Jackson Stephens who essentially said, here's a real comer (no pun intended), and introduced them to Bill Clinton.

So the Riady's started investing like mad in Little Rock and in the political career of William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. They got to know Hillary Clinton, Webster Hubbell, Vince Foster, and others in the Clinton circle of power.

They bailed Clinton out during the New Hampshire primaries and held=7F on all the way through to the White House--where they put John Huang in a key position at the Commerce Dept. thanks to an expedited top-level security clearance courtesy of the Clinton White House.The interview went on to say that although we're seeing the recent scandals of campaign contributions, the real events took place during Ron Brown's trade missions in 1994.

Brown would set up deals between American companies and Indonesian companies to build coal-burning power plants in Indonesia and in China. Apparently they understood what was going to happen even back then.Maybe it was John Huang, Ron Brown, or even Bill Clinton. We don't know about that yet. We're still trying to find out, "what did Clinton know and when did he know it?"The show host, Jim Quinn, asked if a lot of these Indonesian coal reserves are owned by the son- in-law of President Suharto.

The interview indicated yes, but actually it's Suharto's DAUGHTER who's involved in the most capital-intensive power project in Indonesia. Ron Brown was involved with arranging for an American company to take over one-third of the ownership. Some energy companies in America have actually gotten rich over all this.

Two of them are : ENERGY and MISSION ENERGY.

Quinn added that Entergy is a huge (Democratic) company in Little Rock and they employed Ron Brown's son. He then added what an absolute quagmire of corruption this all is.The interview then added, "The question is, did the Clinton administration know they were making Indonesia rich? How could they NOT know? This 'compliance coal' is very rare stuff."This "compliance coal" has a low enough sulfur content that it is permissible to burn or to mix it with higher sulfur coal and still meet the ever-stricter clean air standards which have just conveniently been tightened even more by the EPA.

We will be needing more and more of this sort of environment-friendly coal in the future in this country, and Bill Clinton has just seen to it that the largest and most easily accessible deposit of it in the continental U.S. is now OFF LIMITS.President Clinton has made sure that we can't export it, either. ADARO is the name of the company that owns Indonesian Coal (actually the Indonesian government owns the mineral resources, but this company has the mining rights).

ADARO owns a fair amount of the Wyoming coal in this country, too.There's more. Kentucky Democratic politicians and ADARO have set up a deal so that Tampa Electric Company is going to buy 400,000 tons a year of Indonesian coal.Also, they are making a move on the "compliance coal" in Columbia, as well. "We're talking about something that is starting to look like a cartel.

ADARO may just buy up the Columbian coal reserves and sit on them which will force the value of Indonesian coal to go up." (Anyone remember the James Bond movie, "Goldfinger"? The villain wasn't trying to steal the gold from Fort Knox. Instead he wanted to set off a nuclear device that would contaminate the gold reserves of the United States and render it useless and valueless, thus making the value of all the remaining gold in the world go up.

We may be seeing a little of that at work here.)Quinn mentioned that he has heard there's a law suit in progress to challenge President Clinton's Executive Order which has declared the coal on the new Utah national park off-limits to mining. The interview asked skeptically, "Do you really think it's going to go anywhere?"

He said that Executive Orders are very powerful and added that many of the viewers of the "Quid Pro Coal" show on Thursday night were so angry after learning what Clinton has done that they are calling for his impeachment.

Realistically, if there is enough public anger and outcry about this directed at the Bureau of Land Management, at best Utah may be given permission to put a few roads in there, a rail line, and then mine about 40 acres of it.

 

There was never going to be any strip mining. It would all be underground mining at a very small site. There is enough "compliance coal" at this site in Utah to last an estimated 240 to 270 years if mined constantly. But now we will probably be buying this type of coal from Indonesia.

THE CHINA CONNECTION: Quinn shifted focus to China Resources, which is a Hong Kong based commercial arms company for the Peoples Republic of China. Intelligence sources say it is a cover for Chinese military intelligence

.In 1992, just before our presidential elections, China Resources bought out 15% of Lippo as what would appear to be a gesture of good faith. Lippo was in a lot of trouble at the time from overextending itself. Right after Bill Clinton was elected as president, they bought 50% of Lippo

.So now Mochtar and James Riady, the long-time friends and financial backers of Bill Clinton, find that half their company is now owned by a company that is a front for the Chinese Military.I would add here from the pages of Dec. 24th issue of Strategic Investment newsletter this chilling warning:...China has replaced Japan as the country with which the U.S. is running the largest trade deficit.

The Chinese have accumulated approximately $100 billion in reserves, most of which are held in the form of U.S. Treasury obligations...Now consider that Bill Clinton's administration has been willing to sell the Chinese anything they want. Most Favored Trading Nation Status (while looking the other way on human rights violations). Foreign policy decisions. Domestic policy decisions. Our technology. Our weapons. Our factories which are disassembled and shipped over there along with the jobs that used to belong in this country.

John Huang had top secret clearance in the Commerce Dept., thanks to Bill Clinton, and thereby had access to our nation's secrets. Quinn asked, do you honestly believe that none of these secrets were passed on to the Chinese?There has been a massive break down and infiltration of our national security by the Chinese. And the lubricant for all this, Quinn says, are donations for the Democratic National Committee.

Bill Clinton has put up our NATION FOR SALE. Bill Clinton has put up our NATIONAL SECRETS FOR SALE. Jim Quinn concluded that, "what we're talking about here is TREASON." It was so stated in the Washington Times just recently. This is the sort of thing you see in a Third World country. It's no wonder we're seeing political murders passed off as suicide. "And you know what I'm talking about, don't you?" Quinn said. Quinn remarked about the recent revelations about FBI agent Earl Edwin Pitts being charged with spying.

"What's the difference between what this man has done in selling out his country's secrets to an enemy country and between what Bill Clinton has done in selling out this country to our enemies, whether done directly by him or facilitated by him, what's the difference?"This is sleazy Arkansas politics elevated to the national level.

But Clinton will claim ignorance and dodge responsibility. He always does. Quinn agreed.With Bill Clinton's assistance, the Chinese now have virtually cornered the market on "compliance coal." The net result of all this is that we can expect our energy costs to go up and up and we will be a net importer with an already established dependence on the Middle East for oil. We are reminded that this was something we were willing to go to war over under George Bush.

FEELING USED?

And lastly what of those environmentalists who initially championed this act of eco-compassion by our "green" president and his tree-hugging vice president?

Well, let's consider that the coal in Indonesia is going to be removed by STRIP MINING, which will leave the land ravaged and scarred in an area of the world that is primarily precious and delicate RAIN FOREST habitat.

So much for our eco-friendly president. And now these same environmentalists who were trotted out to act as part of the backdrop for the Grand Canyon signing ceremony and photo-op are feeling betrayed because they and their cause were used as a cover for something entirely different. Hey, nobody ever said being a Friend-of-Bill's was a win-win situation. Next time, maybe tell Bill he should at least kiss you first... ---------------------------------------------------------Reporting on "Quid Pro Coal" interview on Quinn in the Morning show, WRRK 97 FM, Pittsburgh, PA

23 posted on 07/29/2002 5:22:26 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Pagey
Thanks for that info, which I posted above- and also sent a direct link to it in the morning mass email to "Letters & Opinionators."

I'm getting attempted virus attacks again, so the information must have hit a nerve...

24 posted on 07/30/2002 3:56:01 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
You bet,and anytime I can do that (contribute like that) I will. Another amazing point, is #42 didn't even tell (much less invite) the Governor of Utah to the (very public) ceremony either.
25 posted on 07/30/2002 11:06:15 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
bttt
26 posted on 07/30/2002 1:05:59 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
That article was the most concise I've seen- wish I could have led the post with it.
27 posted on 07/30/2002 2:20:45 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
A "Memories from Hell" BUMP
28 posted on 07/30/2002 4:01:26 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
When the first term of the clintons mutated into the second, I really thought the America I had grown up in and loved was dead, dead, dead, as a doornail.

I just could not see how so many people could be blinded unless they were as corrupt and rotten as the Fraud in Chief himself. Looking back, I think it was due more to bamboozling by the media- both press and entertainment.

29 posted on 07/30/2002 4:08:02 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
News Jackals! I love it! I'll have to remember that one!
30 posted on 07/30/2002 4:13:10 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Thanks- I *think* Dr. Tom Sowell coined that, but it sure is descriptive...
31 posted on 07/30/2002 4:26:58 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
"LINKS" BUMP!
32 posted on 08/26/2002 2:32:35 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
Bump is appreciated- thank you!
33 posted on 08/26/2002 3:47:17 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Bump!
34 posted on 08/29/2002 7:27:07 PM PDT by TBall
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To: TBall
Thanks for looking- a re-bump against corruption...
35 posted on 08/30/2002 1:29:35 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
re re re bump.
36 posted on 12/13/2002 8:56:34 PM PST by TBall
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To: TBall
Thanks for the 3X rebump!
37 posted on 12/14/2002 2:43:14 AM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
This is another one of those phoney 'environmental purist' issues. The forest fires we saw this year, thanks to the enviro-wackos, I wonder how many times the destroyed woodland could swallow up Escalante and ANWR combined? These two places are puny. And in the meantime, we could feed the blood soaked Red Dragon and the blood-soaked Sickle Moon with OUR MONEY. It's sick.
38 posted on 12/14/2002 3:51:10 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Arthur, I can recall as a teenager touring the local power plant- the middle 1960's-

They burned powdered coal back then, well before all these dam-fool environmental laws- and the stack gas was so clean all you could see was heat waves pouring out of it- not a trace of smoke.

The new clean coal technology is far ahead of that- I just don't understand why ( well, I do, actually ) we don't use coal for stationary plants of all kinds, instead of much costlier, rarer, natural gas.

39 posted on 12/14/2002 4:19:43 AM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Bump for 2003!
40 posted on 12/03/2003 8:19:57 PM PST by TBall
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To: TBall
Bump for 2003!

Thanks- I somehow missed your reply earlier.

41 posted on 12/04/2003 5:22:21 PM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: All
Think it over, folks...

Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:


42 posted on 08/26/2005 4:36:12 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe

BUMP!


43 posted on 12/26/2005 8:06:07 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks for the bump!


44 posted on 12/26/2005 8:16:02 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe
this coal deal along with Clinton giving the strategic high grade tungsten reserves to the chi-coms for campaign donations should be his legacy wrapped in a stained blue dress
45 posted on 12/26/2005 8:26:48 AM PST by mt tom
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To: mt tom
...this coal deal along with Clinton giving the strategic high grade tungsten reserves to the chi-coms for campaign donations should be his legacy wrapped in a stained blue dress...

More "legacy" here:

     



-Hillary Clinton- archives, comments, and opposition research --

-The Clinton Files--

-Murder, Inc. [repost] --

-ATTENTION BLOODHOUNDS--

-Women in the Clinton Era: Abuse,Intimidation and Smears--

Hillary's delegates spit on and taunt Police Honor Guard at her Convention

Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE

CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
 


46 posted on 12/26/2005 9:35:12 AM PST by backhoe (Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safe, yet?)
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To: All
Creating this monument was the act of an arrogant, obnoxious administration, especially when we consider that the only other source for the clean burning coal found in Escalante is in Indonesia, controlled by James Riady.

Google Clinton Coal Reserve

Google Escalante-Grand Riady


47 posted on 12/27/2005 5:47:02 AM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Bump for 2006.


48 posted on 05/29/2006 7:29:59 PM PDT by TBall
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To: backhoe
It's very simple.
The clinton's had ties to the Indonesian company that has similar grade coal.
If we take the coal we have out of the mix, the Indonesian coal becomes much more valuable.
The question is how much of a kickback did the clintons get for designating Our coal field a National Park to prevent our harvesting it.
49 posted on 01/30/2007 5:40:05 AM PST by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: backhoe

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50 posted on 11/05/2007 11:29:22 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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