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Terrorist won't be the death of America but Porn & Sexual Americans will
7/30/2002 | TLBSHOW

Posted on 07/30/2002 8:41:31 AM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: truenospinzone
If we make porn and sex illegal, then the terrorists will have won!

Think about it.
101 posted on 07/30/2002 10:40:22 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: truenospinzone
Appy gave up actually arguing with libertarians a long time ago. Now he makes up his own version of their arguement and rails against that. It's nice actually, he gets to have his own little imaginary conversation, and everybody else ignores him.
102 posted on 07/30/2002 10:40:25 AM PDT by discostu
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To: realpatriot71
Those don't look like the psylocibin I remember with all due respect.
103 posted on 07/30/2002 10:42:06 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Dimensio
Yep, this country just went downhill when people started having sex.

Good one, Dimensio. I have serious problems when porn is pushed in our kids' faces against our will. I (and they) see it in the QuickCheck in our suburban NJ community, it's sent in our E-mails (and I cannot allow our kids to use our E-mail unless we check it first), it's common to pop up on the computer screens by accident, it's increasingly on TV, even during family hours, naked (and aroused) men and women peer out at us from a great many newsstands in New York City, it's widely distributed in our public high schools (and school officials do little to stop that), and finally, it's visible to kids in our town public library as people get their porn fixes on the public dime. I think a lot of damage has been done to kids. It's sad.

104 posted on 07/30/2002 10:42:49 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: WindMinstrel
you know what we should do? Outlaw sin. We can start with porn, alcohol, and gambling.

You left out "thinking for yourself."

105 posted on 07/30/2002 10:43:53 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
The Taliban made porn and sex illegal. They also banned playing football with a dead goat. B*st*rds!
106 posted on 07/30/2002 10:44:59 AM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: wardaddy
There's a few different species that give one the desired affect, and "Psilocybin" in is the active chemical, not the shroom itself, the correct genus name is "Psilocybe" - not to quibble or anything :-)
109 posted on 07/30/2002 10:47:21 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: andy_card
How, exactly, is porn destroying America

From within plain and simple. From the family unit to the churches, it is the hidden sin that no one has to know about but has absolute outside consequences. It has destroyed families, marriages, pastors, men and women alike. By causing us to give into our most base physical needs.

But of course, we 'want' to do it, there's not a law against it, so it's okay right? There is a higher moral law that this nation once followed but no more. We're too advanced socially to do anything like that, aren't we?

110 posted on 07/30/2002 10:50:30 AM PDT by billbears
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To: one_particular_harbour
I'm Ron Jeremy

You wish...well sort of...he's mighty uglee. I've been around him at a club in Lauderdale a dozen years ago. He was sweaty and stinky....probably snorting a lot of local blow.

Seriously, I'm ambivalent on this topic. I do agree our morality is pretty shabby and many folks...liberals in particular have substituted feeling or thinking good for being "responsible". This other trend of earth/goddess/Gaia paganism which elevates plant and animal life over humans also troubles me as immoral. Why do more folks fret over brutalized pets than they do over dead babies?

Yep, we are FUBAR morality-wise but I'm reluctant to place all the blame at the feet of abandoning sexual mores. It's a lot more than that. The Porn explosion is in my view more a symptom than a cause.

regards

111 posted on 07/30/2002 10:50:33 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: TuTuTango2
What I find odd is that AppyPapy is drawing a link between child porn posession and child molestation...but child pornography is already illegal. What more would be proposed?
112 posted on 07/30/2002 10:51:14 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: TuTuTango2
So are you saying that if there were no porn, there would be no child molesters?

No it's merely a coincidence that you find child porn with molesters.

113 posted on 07/30/2002 10:51:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Constitution Day
You forget... I'm married!!

LOL! Dude, I'm sorry....

115 posted on 07/30/2002 10:51:52 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: one_particular_harbour
Whose daddy is licking what?

See, see what you have wrought by linking to porn!

Babylonian and Junior's dads will never be the same.

116 posted on 07/30/2002 10:52:48 AM PDT by amused
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To: one_particular_harbour
How come there are no threads that have hysterical anti-jaywalking messages? Dammit, its time to put a stop to the true scourge of the USofA!

Ban Jaywalking

117 posted on 07/30/2002 10:54:36 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: amused
Babylonian and Junior's dads will never be the same.

Junior's dad's deceased, so odds are he won't be changing anytime soon.

118 posted on 07/30/2002 10:56:26 AM PDT by Junior
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To: billbears
There is a higher moral law that this nation once followed but no more.

You may like to believe that, but it's not true. Humans have always been promiscuous, no matter what church they belonged to or how piously they preached their own chastity. It just used to be kept much quieter in the past.

Name a decade, name a century, it doesn't matter. Husbands and wives were still cheating on each other, and single people were having sex with multiple partners.

Hey, remember Caligula?

119 posted on 07/30/2002 10:57:24 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Junior
My apologies. Now if only I can get my foot out of my mouth.
122 posted on 07/30/2002 11:00:09 AM PDT by amused
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To: Dimensio
What I find odd is that AppyPapy is drawing a link between child porn posession and child molestation...but child pornography is already illegal. What more would be proposed?

What I find odd is that he's attempting to say child porn is in any way equal to adult porn, when it's beyond obvious that the reason so many child molestors also possess child porn is because sex with children is illegal. It's the only outlet those nutbags have, until and unless they get up the nerve to actually try to rape a child.

123 posted on 07/30/2002 11:00:48 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: TLBSHOW
Terrorist won't be the death of America but Porn & Sexual Americans will

\and the democrates aren't helping matters any!

124 posted on 07/30/2002 11:00:52 AM PDT by WKB
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To: TuTuTango2
It's just a coincidence. That's all.
125 posted on 07/30/2002 11:02:32 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Sam's Army
How come there are no threads that have hysterical anti-jaywalking messages? Dammit, its time to put a stop to the true scourge of the USofA!

They tend to be quite serious about ticketing jaywalkers in Los Angeles. And we can all see what a paradise that city has been for the last 30 years or so.

127 posted on 07/30/2002 11:03:41 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Yes I remember Caligula. And I also remember that also happened towards the end of the Roman Empire. However, the difference between the Roman Empire and these United States of America is that 90% of the signers of the Constitution were Bible believing Christians and involved in their churches instead of worshipping idols

Yes at any time in history, you have had husbands and wives cheating on each other and single people having multiple sex partners. But not many other times in history has it come to the point where the norm is considered strange and the strange considered norm. The inmates have taken over and the Republic while long ago mortally wounded is breathing its last gasps. These 'returns' to Constitutional beliefs that so many of us want around here are tied directly to the moral beliefs the Founders had. A different way of thinking I feel many are not willing to take upon themselves. They want to continue in their hedonistic pleasures while having less government. That's not what the Founders envisioned, EVER. And if it does happen with the morality change, it will fail guaranteed

128 posted on 07/30/2002 11:05:40 AM PDT by billbears
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To: billbears
Yes I remember Caligula. And I also remember that also happened towards the end of the Roman Empire. However, the difference between the Roman Empire and these United States of America is that 90% of the signers of the Constitution were Bible believing Christians and involved in their churches instead of worshipping idols

And if you believe that almost all of them were aboslutely faithful to your wives then you are living in fantasyland.
129 posted on 07/30/2002 11:06:54 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: TuTuTango2
Then you would have to survey the molesting population to determine which came first - porn or the desire to molest.

I don't even believe this is necessary. How many non-pedophiles start attempting to acquire child porn, something they know could send them to jail for years - just for the hell of it, and then view it and decide, "Heyyyyy, this looks really cool! I gotta try this for myself!!"???

130 posted on 07/30/2002 11:07:26 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: hobbes1
Thinking for yourself? Without the Government? What are you some kind of Liberal ?


Liberal?--they are the last people I have observed thinking for themselves. I don't need the government--liberal or conservative--to protect me.
131 posted on 07/30/2002 11:09:13 AM PDT by scholar
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To: realpatriot71
Well it's been about 27 years so I'm a bit rusty. I remember the purple collar and the golden top. We used to gobble em down in the field . We only ate the caps.

Funny though, dope is sort of like porn. I have experienced both and subtle amounts in private are not really my business, BUT.....I don't want my kids using dope and I sure would not want my daughters(especially) in the porn industry. Having a family sure changes one's perspective on a lot of freewheeling thought.

Here's a nice pic of the shroom in question growing atop it's customary pile of cow sh!te.

In my view, all that 60s and 70s mind expansion psychedelic indulgence was just a technologically advanced version of a medieval ergot plague voluntarily undertaken by a lot of folks with too much idle time.

It all seems so naive from my perspective today.

132 posted on 07/30/2002 11:10:57 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: TLBSHOW
I'm stunned and sad that a large majority on this thread (and I suppose the Free Republic) don't see this as a serious problem.

I think maybe cultural conservatives should accept that the country has a long, dark road ahead before it will again emerge in the light.
133 posted on 07/30/2002 11:12:53 AM PDT by happytobealive
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To: happytobealive
"...long, dark road..."

Use your headlights! ;^)
135 posted on 07/30/2002 11:15:25 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: happytobealive
I'm stunned and sad that a large majority on this thread (and I suppose the Free Republic) don't see this as a serious problem.

Do tell, what is the "solution" to this problem? How do we get people to stop enjoying sex so much that they end up doing stupid things because of it?
136 posted on 07/30/2002 11:15:47 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
And if you believe that almost all of them were aboslutely faithful to your wives then you are living in fantasyland.

I would apply the standards of their day and not ours and in doing so, yes I believe that most, I did not say all, were faithful to their wives. Unlike today, they were not constantly bombarded with sex in every medium of information transfer

137 posted on 07/30/2002 11:16:27 AM PDT by billbears
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To: one_particular_harbour
As for what you know of the founders? You really need to bone up on history

Wow attacks all around say? Better check with the late M.E. Bradford who said it not me. I just thank God everyday that I DIDN'T listen in history classes in public school education else I would have come out with a warped idea of the Constitution and the Founders as well

140 posted on 07/30/2002 11:20:24 AM PDT by billbears
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To: one_particular_harbour
Simply put....life has gotten too soft for many. Technology has also helped porn...no doubt. It's one thing to download an mpeg but another entirely to walk into a porn video store.

Besides the growth in volume, the other marked contrast to the old black and white playing card days when I was a boy, is that the women have gotten 1000% better looking. What some will do to sacrifice their dignity forever on film simply to make money is astounding and baffling. Did highly sought after courtesans in the old European courts make such public spectacles of themselves. Hardly, but that's about the closest comparison I can come up with. A porn star is essentially a very visible prostitute.

141 posted on 07/30/2002 11:22:28 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
G-d wants his children to be sexual beings within the context of a healthy marriage between a man and a woman. G-d's way leads to contentment, happiness and peace -- the pornographer's way will destroy your soul and your humanity.

People have the right to their porn fixes. (It's a free country.) But it's been my observation, all my life, that married men who are heavily into porn usually end up with unhappy or broken marriages, and unmarried guys who are heavily into porn frequently have trouble staying faithful in theirs. What's so hard for the guy addicted or attracted to porn to realize is that the freedom from it can be much more valuable than spending hours and hours slathering over it.

142 posted on 07/30/2002 11:22:31 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: billbears
By causing us to give into our most base physical needs.

Guns cause people to shoot innocents. Guns cause people to give into their most murderous physical impulses.

143 posted on 07/30/2002 11:23:26 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: wardaddy
A porn star is essentially a very visible prostitute.

I agree. Most men who slather over porn wouldn't want their daughters to do it.

144 posted on 07/30/2002 11:24:22 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
What's so hard for the guy addicted or attracted to porn to realize is that the freedom from it can be much more valuable than spending hours and hours slathering over it.

Five to ten minutes usually does the trick ...

145 posted on 07/30/2002 11:25:26 AM PDT by Junior
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To: scholar
Actually, it was a trick question. REAL LIBERALS (like T.Jefferson) think for themselves. American Liberals are hardly Liberal in the clasic sense of the word..lol ; )
146 posted on 07/30/2002 11:27:35 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: ravingnutter
Yeah, that happened to me, too. But Clinton was in office at the time, and for a few seconds I thought it really was the White House site.
147 posted on 07/30/2002 11:29:05 AM PDT by Burn24
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To: billbears
Funny to note that Rome wasn't in trouble until after Christianity was made the State religion and had its rise under Paganism.

Go take a history class and then come on back.

148 posted on 07/30/2002 11:33:46 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: billbears
By causing us to give into our most base physical needs.

What's wrong with giving into our base physical needs? I kind of like breathing, eating, drinking, sitting on the john, etc.

149 posted on 07/30/2002 11:33:59 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: TLBSHOW
When people lost their modesty...
150 posted on 07/30/2002 11:34:48 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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