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HOW CONSERVATIVE IS PRESIDENT BUSH?
The Cato Institute ^ | August 3, 2002 | By Veronique de Rugy

Posted on 08/04/2002 8:30:36 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

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To: RedBloodedAmerican
if you are so pleased that "these cannibals" have moved to lp, why are you so obsessed/bothered by it then? where does it say that someone who is a freeper is not allowed to post on any other internet site?

you ought to be pleased that you had a hand in chasing away one 'girl'.
561 posted on 08/05/2002 2:07:45 PM PDT by christine
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To: christine11
You are correct, that post is there. Unfortunately it appears that after we had a nice civil exchange and I accepted the statement that Reg had admitted it was wrong, he felt the need to go repost all of the same info. I'm not going to post the link, but I'm sure you know your way around over there sufficiently to find it.

So he admits it's wrong and does it again? Double not cool.
562 posted on 08/05/2002 2:09:58 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: christine11
you ought to be pleased that you had a hand in chasing away one 'girl'.

Oh, I cried for days. I would do the same if you "left". Wanna see?

563 posted on 08/05/2002 2:10:17 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: terilyn
Oh, but it's cool! Christine is cool! All the others are cool! It's the cool thing to do!
564 posted on 08/05/2002 2:11:23 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
A "claim" is "proof"? okaaayyy....

I have no reason to disbelieve oldvike, as I have not seen oldvike spew B.S. on this forum.

And you avoided the rest of my comments, as well as the one to oldvike that you commented on. You guys should quit while your behind, really.

So that's all that matters to you, eh? Ahead and behind. You believe you are ahead. Fine, I won't contest you. You are ahead, and the conservative movement continues to slip further behind because of all the backbiting and nitpicking.

Meanwhile, Registered, a person who has added quite a bit to FR, is staying away. Have you ever had YOUR posts, YOUR work get national attention? Doubt it.

So go ahead. Drive your wedges. Do your part to help split the various conservative factions further apart. I'm sure there are other potential food fights on other threads that could be provoked, if only someone could get them going. Your work here is done.

565 posted on 08/05/2002 2:12:58 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I agree, although I don't consider FR a "club". But it is nice these cannibals have moved to LP, isn't it? :)

You're just proving my point. Ever hear of the term Balkanization? A bunch of small states in an eternal state of conflict, never getting anywhere, and never realizing their potential because of such. Yeah, maybe you are right. FR should split into smaller parts. One site for the Libertarians. One for the Buchananites. One for the Bushies. One for the undecideds. AND THEN WE'LL REALLY BE SHOWING THOSE LIBERALS, EH?

566 posted on 08/05/2002 2:16:38 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: terilyn
again, i did not see any of the posts of reg's after his initial registration and discussion at lp. again, i said "i don't THINK..."

and, yes, i do know my way around lp sufficiently enough to do a search. however, i will take your word that it's there.

i see no reason for us not to have a civil exchange, now and in the future. you and i have never been disagreeable to each other in the past.
567 posted on 08/05/2002 2:21:51 PM PDT by christine
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
And what a lugher it was to have him banned over a link from their leaders website (Keyes - "Strike The root") This is all too funny to say the least. What winners!

Huh? The Strike-the-Root website has nothing to do with Alan Keyes. You're mistaken.

568 posted on 08/05/2002 2:24:15 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: dirtboy
"And it's time to stop tearing down and start building."

You're right. Any suggestions as to how that can be accomplished?

It always seems like the dems have their blueprints in place and they're all working on building the same house.

Conservatives seem to have five or six different plans and we're each going to build our own and see who gets it done first. In the meantime we're all running around lighting the other one's partially finished structures on fire so we have a better chance of "winning".

Not very constructive.

I don't think many here would argue that GWB could be more conservative and we'd be happier. Unfortunately that makes him virtually unelectable.

I have to agree with Mr. Robinson on this one. I'm willing to take small steps in the "right" direction, knowing that the alternative is unthinkable.

I happen to believe that the mentality that says they're either going to stay home or vote third party to "teach him a lesson", is teaching the wrong lesson.

Every time we do that, the next electable candidate for the GOP goes further to the center. I think the message they're receiving is that about 60% of the country is in the middle and that's where they'd better govern from.

Funny, people have very short and selective memories. I loved Ronald Reagan, but he signed a lot of legislation that was less than conservative. He granted amnesty to illegals for one. The ACU wrote a scathing review and in his own words, he would never be able to please the far-right because for them it was all or nothing.

George W. Bush, like Ronald Reagan, realizes all too well that they are the President of all Americans.

The fact is that there are two areas that matter most to me. National defense and the judiciary. On both of those subjects there can be no argument that Bush is a conservative. For now, that's enough for me. I'm willing to support him for those two reasons alone, and work here in MN to get Wellstone out of the Senate.

Now, if he gets control of the Senate and keeps the House, and there is no change, then there's a problem. But for now I believe he has his eye on the ball and that's the 2002 elections. If we fail there, we'd better all pray real hard that there are no USSC retirements in the near future.

569 posted on 08/05/2002 2:25:49 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Fred Mertz; dirtboy
He makes a lot of sense.
570 posted on 08/05/2002 2:27:05 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Sandy
The strike the root was an article being discussed and "ned", the banned fr member, posted it on FR for discussion. Sorry if you missed the connection.
571 posted on 08/05/2002 2:28:55 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

OK...I'm back. Did I miss anything?

572 posted on 08/05/2002 2:31:40 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: terilyn
Well said....
573 posted on 08/05/2002 2:31:59 PM PDT by deport
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
wanna see?

no thanks. i've seen all of you i ever want to.
574 posted on 08/05/2002 2:32:18 PM PDT by christine
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To: christine11
My error, I should have said LP, as in Liberty Post which is where the info is posted as you are well aware.

Don't play dumb and act like you haven't seen the info because I said LF instead of LP.

Post Date: 2002-08-05 17:24:40 From: christine To: Registered

Post Date: 2002-08-05 13:37:42 From: christine To: Rowdee; oldvike; registered; twodees; malador

Post Date: 2002-08-05 00:38:27 From: christine To: kcpopps

Post Date: 2002-08-05 00:15:39 From: christine To: oldvike

Post Date: 2002-08-05 00:14:39 From: christine To: oldvike

Post Date: 2002-08-05 00:12:19 From: christine To: uglybiker

Post Date: 2002-08-05 00:08:46 From: christine To: oldvike
575 posted on 08/05/2002 2:34:01 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: terilyn
You're right. Any suggestions as to how that can be accomplished?

I wish I were that smart, but I only scored a 135 on that IQ test folks are taking elsewhere on the forum :^)

Seriously, it's gonna take a lot of effort. We're gonna have to win this battle one person at a time, because we have the newspapers and the media and the publik skools and the vast majority of the federal government aligned against us. But IMO the first step is to cement your own alliances. Then, you fight in the marketplace of ideas, and there we have the upper hand, BECAUSE WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT. And that is something just about everyone on this site shares - but, sadly, we don't realize how great our shared values are, but instead dwell on our differences.

576 posted on 08/05/2002 2:35:50 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: terilyn
Oh, and BTW, kudos to the rest of your post as well. It's the kind of well-written, well-thought-out defense of one's position that we need more of on FR. Nothing wrong with solid intellectual debate - that is what should differentiate conservatives from leftists...
577 posted on 08/05/2002 2:45:56 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Since you do not know how to search on the internet, I am going to post only the first paragraph of an article that came out on the Tribune. I cannot post the whole thing because of the same reason why one cannot post a full story from the LA Times or the Washington Post.

U.S. quietly OKs fetal stem cell work
Bush allows funding despite federal limits on embryo use

By Jeremy Manier
Tribune staff reporter
Published July 7, 2002

The Bush administration has approved the first federally funded project using stem cells obtained from fetuses aborted up to eight weeks after conception, expanding the scientific promise of stem cell research.....

If you need any help in reading, you should wait before Bush's reading program comes to a town near you.

578 posted on 08/05/2002 2:48:04 PM PDT by Satadru
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To: sinkspur
Bill just compiles FR threads and dumps the links when he's got nothing better to do.

Anybody who's been here any length of time has seen all of them already.

I've been here two years. I've seen some and missed a whole bunch of these.

I wish more FReepers had nothing better to do than compile links of related threads. This one took some work.

579 posted on 08/05/2002 2:48:55 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: dirtboy
Thank you.

Baby steps...they lead to bigger steps. But if we don't start with the baby steps, we'll never get any momentum to actually take that giant step.
580 posted on 08/05/2002 2:50:20 PM PDT by terilyn
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