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School is now just a 'girl thing'
Edmonton Sun ^ | August 4, 2002 | Ted Byfield

Posted on 08/07/2002 8:08:16 AM PDT by pbear8

School is now just a 'girl thing'

By TED BYFIELD -- Edmonton Sun

Now that our liberal educators have spent at least 30 years softening, gentling and generally feminizing the school system, why are we so astonished to discover that boys are opting out of education?

We've gone to extraordinary lengths to assure them that they don't belong there, that unless they change and become more like girls, they aren't wanted. They don't change because, of course, they can't. More and more of them simply quit.

So why be astonished to see that 57% of bachelor's degrees granted by American universities this year went to women - 61% at the University of Calgary while 59% of those receiving graduate degrees were female?

Meanwhile, at the high school level, the male dropout rate soars high above the female, as does the male suicide rate and the male crime rate.

Officialdom is becoming alarmed. Something called the Business Roundtable, an organization of top American executives, has commissioned a study. "We simply can't afford to have half our population not developing the skill sets we are going to need," says a spokeswoman. Research teams are studying the problem from Harvard, the University of Michigan and the United Negro College Fund.

Heaven knows what conclusions they might reach. As with a great many other things, if the obvious explanation offends the politically correct, we aren't likely to hear it, and it certainly does.

The fact is that the elementary schools are run almost entirely by women. The junior highs aren't much different. The male-female teacher ratio in high schools is about 50-50. Why are we surprised to discover that a boy grows up convinced that education is a "girl thing"?

But it goes much deeper than that. At another conference last week, this one in Montreal, a British psychologist and researcher reported that studies show girls tend to fight with their tongues while boys fight with their fists. Thus was educational academe endowed with knowledge that could have been provided by any parent of both girls and boys since the dawn of history, but it's nice to know that our educators are discovering things.

They have yet to discover, however, that certain conclusions follow from this. Since boys are far more physical, their discipline must be more physical too. I taught for 10 years in a boys' school. The first thing you learn there is that for most normal males of a certain age three or four swats with a strap will accomplish more in 30 seconds than six weeks of heart-to-heart "counselling."

One also suspects that the mysterious disease known as ADD, Attention Deficit Disorder, may be caused by a deficit of meaningful direction - meaningful, that is, in the sense of coercive. Over that 10-year stint, I could probably identify 50 boys, all suffering from what today would be called ADD. Every one of them was 'cured' when he found that if he didn't do the assigned work, things would become dreadfully unpleasant.

It is certainly odd that a disease that was absolutely unheard of before the schools were feminized has now become chronic. The favoured treatment is to hop up boys into educational acquiescence with Ritalin, a derivative of cocaine. Drugging children is seen as somehow more humane than spanking them.

Then too, boys easily assume that all the ancient human arts - song and verse in particular - are essentially 'girl things,' which of course is nonsense. But it's very difficult for a female teacher to overcome this bias, and one result is to render all the arts as something 'real men' aren't interested in.

Finally, boys more readily embrace what might be called absolutes. They're far more at home in a world of win-lose, pass-fail, good-bad than in a world of 'feelings' in the modern school.

Fix these things and you'll fix the problem of the opting-out male. But they won't be fixed easily because it means supplanting the whole philosophy of modern education - supplanting it, not with something new, but with something old.

For while what I've said here will appear extremist, radical, even demented to the modern educator, it is in fact the way human beings have been educated for every previous generation. He is the innovator, not I. And insofar as boys are concerned, his innovations are turning out to be catastrophic.


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KEYWORDS: boys; education; educationnews; girls; school
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Soon we all reap the rewards of what the educrats hath wrought.
1 posted on 08/07/2002 8:08:16 AM PDT by pbear8
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To: pbear8
They act all surprized, as if it was an unintended result.
Bunk.
2 posted on 08/07/2002 8:15:30 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: pbear8
The other thing teachers do is punish anyone who defends himself. I've seen this in action. Years ago, I watched the class bully punch another kid. I paid more attention to the teacher who sat, watching quietly.........but did nothing. Nothing, until that is, the kid who was hit threw a punch BACK. Then, all hell broke loose and the teacher went flying over to intervene. BOTH kids were in trouble, but the teacher was REALLY pissed at the guy who hit back.

You see; it's perfectly ok to punch the crap out of another student, so long as you're not hitting back.

I had absolutely no respect at all for teachers after witnessing that crap.

3 posted on 08/07/2002 8:18:20 AM PDT by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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To: You Gotta Be Kidding Me
I have seen this occur also in my boys school.
The rule is that you cannot defend yourself, you have to
go "tell" an adult.
What my son found though was that if an adult didn't see
the assault happen, well then it just didn't occur.

We have let the principal know that we have taught our
son to hit back. We're not raising a victim. If he
doesn't like it, we're willing to have our son suspended.
4 posted on 08/07/2002 8:21:55 AM PDT by katnip
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To: katnip
"......adult didn't see the assault happen,.....

Believe me, they SAW. They just turn a blind eye to it, becasuse they want to see if your kid will hit back. A coworker of mine had a son who beat up four kids who jumped him. The teachers admitted that they saw it happened, but were furious at the kid for defending himself. My coworker pulled the kid, sent him to the local community college and the kid got his G.E.D. 6 months prior to the high school graduation.

5 posted on 08/07/2002 8:31:37 AM PDT by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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To: katnip
We have let the principal know that we have taught our son to hit back. We're not raising a victim. If he doesn't like it, we're willing to have our son suspended.

This worked for me. I was in the thrid grade and having a lot of problems with some of the other students. I eventually got into a fist-fight. My defense at the principal's office was "My parents told me to fight back if someone hits me." That was the end of it, and being my first offense, I was free to go. The other kid got a three-day suspension -- he had problems before. I also never had a problem with the other students after that day. (This was in 1988.)

6 posted on 08/07/2002 8:34:48 AM PDT by jae471
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To: You Gotta Be Kidding Me
Now I've just got to figure out how he deals with girls
hitting him.

We of course tell him not to hit back, but I'd love to
tell him to break their little noses.
7 posted on 08/07/2002 8:36:00 AM PDT by katnip
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To: jae471
I also never had a problem with the other students after that day.

Good for you!

8 posted on 08/07/2002 8:39:09 AM PDT by katnip
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To: pbear8
The first thing you learn there is that for most normal males of a certain age three or four swats with a strap will accomplish more in 30 seconds than six weeks of heart-to-heart "counselling."

Yep, learned that in the 3rd grade, only it was either a yardstick or a pointer stick...nun's choice.

Then when the Monsignor came in to hand out report cards, he always had a #1 wood driver. Rumor was if you got an "F" you would be counselled with said driver.

I never got an "F". Wonder why that was?

9 posted on 08/07/2002 8:46:35 AM PDT by hattend
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To: pbear8
I don't think the declining male ratio has to do with feminization. I think girls just tolerate boredom better.
10 posted on 08/07/2002 8:46:58 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: pbear8
Soon we all reap the rewards of what the educrats hath wrought.

In my town we already are. Most of the town council are retired teachers. The last three mayors have been retired teachers. I don't mean to beat up on teachers, they are underpaid (to start) and overworked, but enduring these occupational hazards and having a teaching certifcate does not make one politically wise.

Anyway, our town is facing a budget deficit that is not totally the result of reduced revenues. You see the town "needed a Cultural Center" and a "Wetlands Contemplative Preserve" (its an old railroad yard that filled with water in winter). The local police are encourage to write traffic tickets that generate revenue for the towns treasury. The feminization of America may be thought of as a good thing. Soft and feely, but I think the examples of our national institutions failures to prevent the tragedies of the past year are are symptom of this phenomena.

If women in politics are desirable (and they are) we need more Maggie Thatchers, not Sally Jesse Raphael's.

11 posted on 08/07/2002 8:52:40 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: You Gotta Be Kidding Me
That happened to me. Really. When I was in 7th grade, an 8th grade girl sucker-punched me in the stomach (to this day, the hardest hit I ever took - she was taller and stronger than me) for "saying something about her" that I never said.

Frankly, I didn't even know her name. She was a whack-nut.

Anyway, after I caught my wind, I got up and slugged her back.

Guess who got suspended.

12 posted on 08/07/2002 9:01:17 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: You Gotta Be Kidding Me
Meanwhile, some large percentage of the 600 Million Muslim men in the world are training every day to kill infidels. Training in hand to hand combat, knives, pistols, rifles, explosives. Training religiously, so to speak, in how to kill us.

Maybe the women and the teachers will defend us.
13 posted on 08/07/2002 9:03:55 AM PDT by spodefly
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To: pbear8
The fact is that the elementary schools are run almost entirely by women. The junior highs aren't much different. The male-female teacher ratio in high schools is about 50-50. Why are we surprised to discover that a boy grows up convinced that education is a "girl thing"?

Dog bites man, if you ask me. This is nothing new. It's been almost 50 years since I started elementary school, but in the small Iowa town where I grew up, almost all the teachers and principals at the elementary and junior high level were women. You didn't have a significant number of male teachers until you got to high school.

15 posted on 08/07/2002 9:09:40 AM PDT by mdwakeup
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To: zhabotinsky
During the suspension, my parents took time off from work, different days of course, and we went to the Bronx Zoo, the NY Aquarium, the American Museum of Natural History and a Yankee game.

WAY more education than you would have gotten in class!

Great story. Thanks.

16 posted on 08/07/2002 9:25:22 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I hope you hit her hard enough to deter her from further sucker punches. You don't mention that she hit you again.
17 posted on 08/07/2002 9:46:48 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: pbear8
In the town I came from, being in the band was a big thing. We were the best in the state during the 70's.

We recently had a reunion, and I asked the band directors who came if the band was still any good. Both said "sure, sure, at least to the degree we still have tools to work with".

What they meant was, they no longer could keep disipline with things like paddles, or yelling, or intimidation. The fact that this was mentioned by both of them (who now live in different states), during different conversations, means that the rules have significantly changed.

I can only imagine what its like trying to keep a room of 100 kids with noisy band instruments all in line and playing together without being able to get in their faces.

18 posted on 08/07/2002 9:47:18 AM PDT by narby
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To: Kermit
No, she didn't. That's actually the only time in my life I actually struck a person..........thank God.
19 posted on 08/07/2002 9:52:43 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: narby
How sad.

I shudder to think what my once excellent school choir has become.

Excellence, discipline, they really do go together.

20 posted on 08/07/2002 10:08:16 AM PDT by pbear8
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