Canadian Dollar

Numbertwelve web site ^ | August 8th, 2002 | James Bredin

[MinorityRepublican]

Sound farfetched? What if I told you 20 years ago that not only would the Soviet Union soon crumble, but that they would reject Communism in the process and that Germany would be reunited as one nation? You all would have laughed at me for being so naive. Actually the USA and Canada uniting as one nation (with Canada adopting our Constitution and Bill of Rights, of course) is far more plausible today than the prospect of the Soviet Union breaking up back in 1980.

You are correct. Also, who can imagine that Western Europe is one country today? The European Union is so powerful that the governor of Kansas has more power than the President of France. At least the governor can decide whether to have the death penalty or not. Not so in Europe.

Also, we may see the day where Canada and Mexico will be united with USA. Not for a long time, but there is a real good chance of it happening.

[FreedomFarmer]

...the governor of Kansas has more power than the President of France. At least the governor can decide whether to have the death penalty or not...

We keep asking for the death penalty, but Gov. Graves says he's innocent.

[Snowyman]

Not for a long time,

There is no provision made in Confederation for a province to legally leave. And if you think Ontario is socialist then you don't know the histories of Manitoba. Saskatchewan or BC very well.

If it ever happpens it won't be the USA that you know today and Canada won't be the one doing the joining.

[SamAdams76]

I think Mexico has a l-o-n-g way to go before we can consider them for U.S. statehood. But it does make enough sense geopolitically for us to consider it in the long-term. In the meantime, we should work with Mexico to turn them into a country that is worthy of joining the USA (Canada already is there). As the world continues to shrink (due to the Internet and ease of travel), larger nation-states will be the norm. What happened in Europe is a sign of things to come. Eventually the African nations will begin to merge together and so will the South American countries - as well as those in the Far East. We better get ready to consolidate our own continent. Of course, paramount above all else is that any future states adopt OUR Constitution and Bill of Rights. No way should the USA ever give up their sovereignity to some kind of New World Order. We must make it clear to any potential new states that they are joining the United States of America and that we are not forming some kind of "North American Union" or any such crap like that.

[southland]

POST 17: You make a very good point. I too have been in Canada twice in the past 2 years and come to the same conclusion as you. The Canadians I met were very decent people. I have corresponded with others that are also decent.
I wouldn't mind them being future states of USA.

[southland]

POST 37:
I was in British Columbia last year and enjoyed it very much. If I were to leave Alabama I might go to B. C. Wonderful people.

[RAT_Poison]

I live just across the border in Michigan. Moosehead Lager (when I can find it) is very good. However, I prefer Molson XXX (7.3% alcohol). I often make special trips to Sarnia, Ontario just to buy a few cases to keep on hand. Labatt Maximum Ice is very good, too (7.1%). ;-)

[Snowyman]

Moosehead Lager (when I can find it)

Yeah, I know what you mean. At home and at the beer store. Everyone just keep running out:}! If you like ale look for Molson's "Rickard's Red"...

[MinorityRepublican]

I think Mexico has a l-o-n-g way to go before we can consider them for U.S. statehood. But it does make enough sense geopolitically for us to consider it in the long-term. In the meantime, we should work with Mexico to turn them into a country that is worthy of joining the USA (Canada already is there).

I agree. Also we need to make Mexico a great place to earn a living. That way, we won't have the problem of so many illegal immigrants in America, and the emigration would cease from Mexico.

[Grig]

"Also, I have cut across Ontario on trips from Michigan to New York many times. I get to drive on my favorite highway, the QEW. Rush hour on the QEW is wild!"

Wimp. Toronto is a sunday drive compared to Montreal. :)

[bert]

Perhaps it is a cultural thing..... no culture no value.

[Grig]

As one of those rare rabid conservative madmen in Canada, I like the idea of dollarization, heck, I'de welcome a full scale US invasion if it happened!

The success of the US does more to keep Canada from going totaly to pot than anything else. After a heavy dose of socialism, the failures of it become clearer when we look to the south, creating a force moving Canada a little bit away from socialism, for a time.

There is a lot of anti-americanism up here, mainly because so many Americans who come up here are are clueless rude jerks (none of you, of course) so don't think a volutary merger is in the cards at this point. I think it's far more likely that Alberta will drop out of the union and become it's own nation. BC might go with it too, and if so they would certainly have all the resources to establish a properouse nation, and it would be more conservative than the US even.

Quebec likes to threaten to do this, but it's just a way of blackmailing the feds for more handouts (plus they would instantly become a third world nation on their own), Alberta is the one providing the handouts for the rest of Canada, and getting treated like dung by the feds as well. I don't think they would threaten to leave, they would just do it.

[bert]

The latter stages of this scenario involve ceding everything north and east of NewYork to Quebec, the holdout provence. The ceded states prefer European values to American values and will be glad for the change.

Once the changes start, there will also be pressure the other way..... New Mexico to California will absorb Mexico. Northern California north will merge with the pacific provences.

North America will resolve into 5 or 6 nations. This statement is the thought of the great futurist Robert Heinlien.

[Mahone]

Ping

[Technocrat]

Amen to that. I lived in Montreal for a few years, and the French are Crazy. I really like those Albertans, though - married one of 'em in fact. Now I can say "eh" with the best of them :)

[Ryle]

Sort of like pouring maple syrup on cottage cheese--hard to explain the attraction, but there's no denying the tastiness.

On cottage cheese? Puhleez!!! What a waste of good maple syrup!!! And at the price of it - well, it doesn't bear thinking about ;) OTOH, on homemade biscuits or pancakes, it's unsurpassed!

[Ryle]

Thanks for the ping.

[headsonpikes]

Maple syrup on cottage cheese is at least as tasty as salsa on eggs.

Seriously tasty. ;^)

[RWG]

Canadians enjoy a relatively high standard of living. Only when you attempt to buy American goods in the US with Canadian dollars does it seem like a real problem. On the other hand, with the exchange rate the way it is Canadian goods flow into this country like water putting farmers, ranchers, and loggers into bankruptcy. It's a bad deal for us and a great deal for them especially with the natural resources commodities. If you go to Canada for prescription drugs you can count on a discount of about 75%. This includes the exchange rate and the cost of the pharmaceuticals. What I pay for 100 tablets in the US I buy 400 of them in Canada. The real suffering for Americans is in the border towns that used to count on the Canadian trade for the bulk of their revenue.

[1rudeboy]

While I very much enjoy Moosehead Ale and many others, my truly favorite beer is Fosters.
Australian for beer.

Brewed under license in North America . . . by Molson, I think.